Dumo and Bennett for Oshie?

Sounds good to me....

I have proposed this before but havent received a lot of feedback.

What about Kessel and some retained cash for Letang?

Similar age, and locked up until same season.

Kessel is a little overpaid, but they are similarly talented players.

I'd say that since they are similarly talented, then saying "hey, toronto. it'd be fair for you to retain at least 0.75 so that the salaries cancel since Kessel is currently overpaid and letang isn't."

It doesn't really help Toronto's rebuild since it's just exchanging star for star instead of exchanging a star for lots of youth and risk. but maybe toronto would rather invest in speed on defense.
- poopmouth

I don't think they are looking for a swap that would net them small gains asset wise.

"There is no chance the Blackhawks receive that. That looks more like the return of an Evgeni Malkin deal than it does a player who everybody in the league knows the Blackhawks have to trade."

I disagree. I think a Malkin deal is worth at least two firsts and a Top 6 player with All-Star potential.

I have proposed this before but havent received a lot of feedback.

What about Kessel and some retained cash for Letang?

Similar age, and locked up until same season.

Kessel is a little overpaid, but they are similarly talented players.

I'd say that since they are similarly talented, then saying "hey, toronto. it'd be fair for you to retain at least 0.75 so that the salaries cancel since Kessel is currently overpaid and letang isn't."

It doesn't really help Toronto's rebuild since it's just exchanging star for star instead of exchanging a star for lots of youth and risk. but maybe toronto would rather invest in speed on defense.
- poopmouth

I've thought about this, I don't think they do it as they'd rather rebuild. It was rumored that Letang was going to be dealt to TOR before he signed his extension

I have proposed this before but havent received a lot of feedback.

What about Kessel and some retained cash for Letang?

Similar age, and locked up until same season.

Kessel is a little overpaid, but they are similarly talented players.

I'd say that since they are similarly talented, then saying "hey, toronto. it'd be fair for you to retain at least 0.75 so that the salaries cancel since Kessel is currently overpaid and letang isn't."

It doesn't really help Toronto's rebuild since it's just exchanging star for star instead of exchanging a star for lots of youth and risk. but maybe toronto would rather invest in speed on defense.
- poopmouth

In the next few years Toronto will have all the speed on defence they need. It's the actual "defence" part they have problems with.

Dumo and Bennett for Oshie?

Sounds good to me....
- j.boyd919

Deal

Side note... EK spamming every winger he can to Pitt for clicks

Dumo and Bennett for Oshie?

Sounds good to me....
- j.boyd919

Same, but I don't think the Blues view Dumo as a "Top" prospect.

I think they may want someone that would be able to play top pair minutes in the future and Dumo isn't that.

Woah woah woah.... They would take Scuderi then?
- Guile

if the pot is sweeten with picks and prospects for taking a hefty contract then I don't see why they wouldn't consider it. Scuderi only has what 2 or 3 years left? Leafs will be in rebuild so won't hurt the team and gives them a plug to fill a hole.

if the pot is sweeten with picks and prospects for taking a hefty contract then I don't see why they wouldn't consider it. Scuderi only has what 2 or 3 years left? Leafs will be in rebuild so won't hurt the team and gives them a plug to fill a hole.
- ClarkHitsBell

I don't know you... but you are open to taking Scuderi off of our hands... so I like you...

Woah woah woah.... They would take Scuderi then?
- Guile

I'm sure they would. It will also drive up the cost of other prospects/picks in the deal. It's a smart move by Dubas.

I don't know you... but you are open to taking Scuderi off of our hands... so I like you...
- Guile

lol thanks I think. Honestly though this is the type of deal the Leafs have said to be considering.

Side note... EK spamming every winger he can to Pitt for clicks
- Guile

I know, but if there is any validity to this, I'm not sure Penguin fans will like the names going back to STL. It won't be Bennett or Sutter, or the guys everyone wants out of dodge, our cast offs. It would be a Pouliot/Maatta name ... someone we can ill afford to deal at this juncture.

I'm sure they would. It will also drive up the cost of other prospects/picks in the deal. It's a smart move by Dubas.
- jfkst1

So... to revisit my idea on the last page, that I still don't think I'd do...

Kap+Harrington+2016 1st and 3rd + Scuderi...

Can now use Kunitz to regain a pick (2nd and a lower one most likely), or even hold onto him till the trade deadline and MAYBE get a late 1st back.

I know, but if there is any validity to this, I'm not sure Penguin fans will like the names going back to STL. It won't be Bennett or Sutter, or the guys everyone wants out of dodge, our cast offs. It would be a Pouliot/Maatta name ... someone we can ill afford to deal at this juncture.
- Oneonta Penguin

I like Oshie, Hell, I think most of the country likes him for his Olympic showing. But his price is just too damn high.

I like Oshie, Hell, I think most of the country likes him for his Olympic showing. But his price is just too damn high.
- Guile

Oshie is appealing to the eye as far as his game. He should be a guy putting up more than 20 goals and 60 points per season. His career best is 21 goals and 60 points. His contract is good (two more years at 4.175). He would bring some thing Pittsburgh needs badly. However, the price for this guy would be astronomical ... not worth it, in the end. STL won't be taking cast offs.

JR is desparate to get a winger and I think he is going to be an idiot as far as doing a deal that puts us in further despair.

I was thinking an Oshie for a top d prospect and Bennett

Thoughts?
- sycsam

I think it would work for Dumo or Harrington+BB. Seems like a fair deal.

Id be more interested in Oshie than Semin, Kessel, or Sharp.

I think it would work for Dumo or Harrington+BB. Seems like a fair deal.

Id be more interested in Oshie than Semin, Kessel, or Sharp.
- sammy87

If the cost was that, or that plus one of our 3rds, I'd jump ship from Semin to Oshie... I just don't think he is going to be that cheap unfortunately.

So... to revisit my idea on the last page, that I still don't think I'd do...

Kap+Harrington+2016 1st and 3rd + Scuderi...

Can now use Kunitz to regain a pick (2nd and a lower one most likely), or even hold onto him till the trade deadline and MAYBE get a late 1st back.
- Guile

If I were Dubas I want Kunitz AND Dumoulin/Murray added as well. He'll flip Kunitz for a 2nd and getting another top 6 dman or potential starting goalie. Pens would have zero future if they got Kessel. Dubas would wipe the future assets clean.

I think it would work for Dumo or Harrington+BB. Seems like a fair deal.

Id be more interested in Oshie than Semin, Kessel, or Sharp.
- sammy87

I respectfully disagree with you here. They have zero room for a guy that has shown nothing in his pro career in Bennett. With that lineup, they are geared to compete for a title, not settle for a winning season. I can't see them taking a major question in Bennett and a D prospect for a top six winger.

Oshie is appealing to the eye as far as his game. He should be a guy putting up more than 20 goals and 60 points per season. His career best is 21 goals and 60 points. His contract is good (two more years at 4.175). He would bring some thing Pittsburgh needs badly. However, the price for this guy would be astronomical ... not worth it, in the end. STL won't be taking cast offs.

JR is desparate to get a winger and I think he is going to be an idiot as far as doing a deal that puts us in further despair.
- Oneonta Penguin

Are his numbers down because of the emergence of Taresenko and Schwartz and losing ice time and PP?

If I Dubas I want Kunitz AND Dumoulin/Murray added as well. He'll flip Kunitz for a 2nd and getting another top 6 dman or potential starting goalie. Pens would have zero future if they got Kessel. Dubas would wipe the future assets clean.
- jfkst1

Yeah... gonna have to tell your hypothetical Dubas to go (frank) himself if he wants all of that, and Kunitz, and another prospect/player.

I think it would work for Dumo or Harrington+BB. Seems like a fair deal.

Id be more interested in Oshie than Semin, Kessel, or Sharp.
- sammy87

I'd like Oshie a lot. But no idea how the Pens can get him without Maatta/Pouliot being added. Unless STL blows up their roster, they have no use for another center like Sutter.

I respectfully disagree with you here. They have zero room for a guy that has shown nothing in his pro career in Bennett. With that lineup, they are geared to compete for a title, not settle for a winning season. I can't see them taking a major question in Bennett and a D prospect for a top six winger.
- Oneonta Penguin

Well STL has a stock of good forwards and Tarensenko will be getting a major deal, Schwartz too in the near future. They need young Dmen and they could view BB as a potential stop gap of a cheap roster spot while the other guys get their cash making Oshie expendable.

Yeah... gonna have to tell your hypothetical Dubas to go (frank) himself if he wants all of that, and Kunitz, and another prospect/player.
- Guile

He'd be fine with that. He'll get a better deal elsewhere for Kessel. Especially if he is willing to take back a bad contract like Scuderi.