sammy87
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I pray that this is fake:
@TheHockeyChat - BREAKING: Blackhawks & Penguins discussing a potential Patrick Sharp Trade:
Hawks are asking for 2016 First Round Pick+Bennett+Kapanen - cap1681
I'm listening to MM, he shares my views on the team and the current situation. If this is true, game over.....could be made public to see what the Pens are putting on the table for a top 6. |
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mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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![](http://replygif.net/i/272.gif) - BourbonCounty
I second that. If PIT does that I'll be extremely pissed... |
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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I pray that this is fake:
@TheHockeyChat - BREAKING: Blackhawks & Penguins discussing a potential Patrick Sharp Trade:
Hawks are asking for 2016 First Round Pick+Bennett+Kapanen - cap1681
Have a look at his other material:
https://twitter.com/thehockeychat |
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mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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I'm listening to MM, he shares my views on the team and the current situation. If this is true, game over.....could be made public to see what the Pens are putting on the table for a top 6. - sammy87
...or we could get Semin at half the price for 1/5 the value! Semin (@3.5) + 2nd/3rd for Sutter... |
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I second that. If PIT does that I'll be extremely pissed... - mventres
It will piss me off so much. We will cease to exist as a hockey team in 2-3 years if this happens. |
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mventres
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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It will piss me off so much. We will cease to exist as a hockey team in 2-3 years if this happens. - BourbonCounty
Also, I would be very very disappointed with ownership for allowing it, if such a thing happened because it would be obviously done solely for increasing short-term team value for a sale... |
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I'll tell you, I doubt Kessel-Pittsburgh happens, but man would Kessel and Crosby be dirty together.
I almost want to see it happen just to watch our first line next year... even if it puts us in cap hell. |
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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...or we could get Semin at half the price for 1/5 the value! Semin (@3.5) + 2nd/3rd for Sutter... - mventres
Semin is not a player I want on this team. |
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mventres
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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I'll tell you, I doubt Kessel-Pittsburgh happens, but man would Kessel and Crosby be dirty together.
I almost want to see it happen just to watch our first line next year... even if it puts us in cap hell. ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - SuperHenderson13
If TOR takes on 3mil/year, I'd give them a 2016 1st + Bennett + Harrington. |
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TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull Joined: 11.22.2012
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I'll tell you, I doubt Kessel-Pittsburgh happens, but man would Kessel and Crosby be dirty together.
I almost want to see it happen just to watch our first line next year... even if it puts us in cap hell. ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - SuperHenderson13
Crosby and phil would finish top 2 in scoring, no doubt. |
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Semin is not a player I want on this team. - sammy87
Semin in a deal like that doesn't kill the Penguins future at all. Kessel or Sharp does. That's the difference. |
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Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somerset, PA Joined: 10.20.2013
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Malkin for Oshie and Backes. Trading Russian selfishness for American pride. |
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nurk
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Location: City of Champions, PA Joined: 09.21.2006
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...or we could get Semin at half the price for 1/5 the value! Semin (@3.5) + 2nd/3rd for Sutter... - mventres
why would carolina make that deal? |
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mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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Semin is not a player I want on this team. - sammy87
Semin isn't as bad as he's made out to be...but my main point was the discrepancy is cost for the two and the fact that neither would make us far and away better. If I had to make one of the deals, I'd do Semin any day. |
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Also, I would be very very disappointed with ownership for allowing it, if such a thing happened because it would be obviously done solely for increasing short-term team value for a sale... - mventres
Yeah, if it happened then they'll all sell after the next Cup (if we make it)
If I was the owner and saw my GM offered that (doesn't look like it as CHI would have ran away with that offer before he could think about it) he would be canned instantly. |
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TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull Joined: 11.22.2012
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If TOR takes on 3mil/year, I'd give them a 2016 1st + Bennett + Harrington. - mventres
No kidding you'd want to pay phil 5 mill a year, but that's living in dreamland. Hes worth a lot more than that. |
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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Semin in a deal like that doesn't kill the Penguins future at all. Kessel or Sharp does. That's the difference. - jfkst1
It doesn't kill the team's future, but adding Semin doesn't put this team past the 2nd round or ahead of anyone else in the conference. |
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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Semin isn't as bad as he's made out to be...but my main point was the discrepancy is cost for the two and the fact that neither would make us far and away better. If I had to make one of the deals, I'd do Semin any day. - mventres
Exactly. Pens can afford to miss on a Semin/Vrbata/Parenteau/etc. trade where they aren't sacrificing future assets. Hell, overpaying in UFA is a lot better option than completely destroying the future. Sharp is worse than Kunitz. Rutherford shouldn't even be talking to them. |
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cap1681
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Location: Verona, PA Joined: 02.04.2010
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Malkin for Oshie and Backes. Trading Russian selfishness for American pride. - Grinder47
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mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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why would carolina make that deal? - nurk
Rumor is they want to get rid of him asap but would prefer not to buyout as the cost stays on the books for a long time. this way they get back a player (Sutter) who can help them immediately, and lose only a 2nd/3rd pick that is likely only a 10% chance to make the league anyway...they get Semin off the books and no headache of buyout/etc.
Basically, CAR either buys out Semin and pays him a total of more than 3.5x3, or trades him out along with a pick and let somebody else deal with it. |
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mventres
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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No kidding you'd want to pay phil 5 mill a year, but that's living in dreamland. Hes worth a lot more than that. - TonkaPhaneuf
Well, I'd go to 6 at best...anymore, let another team have him |
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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It doesn't kill the team's future, but adding Semin doesn't put this team past the 2nd round or ahead of anyone else in the conference. - sammy87
Adding Sharp won't either. And the acquisition costs are going to be much higher. The focus should be on sustainability- not burning everything to the ground for the next two seasons. |
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cap1681
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Location: Verona, PA Joined: 02.04.2010
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Rumor is they want to get rid of him asap but would prefer not to buyout as the cost stays on the books for a long time. this way they get back a player (Sutter) who can help them immediately, and lose only a 2nd/3rd pick that is likely only a 10% chance to make the league anyway...they get Semin off the books and no headache of buyout/etc.
Basically, CAR either buys out Semin and pays him a total of more than 3.5x3, or trades him out along with a pick and let somebody else deal with it. - mventres
The buyout would be 2.33M for the next 6 years |
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nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA Joined: 05.28.2010
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Only trades shpd be for picks... Don't Rutherford this up Rutherford!!ðŸ˜
Get the affordable Ufa's and use the youth.. Need picks to stock pile wbs. Seeing how no one likes rust Wilson Megna etc |
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nurk
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Location: City of Champions, PA Joined: 09.21.2006
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Rumor is they want to get rid of him asap but would prefer not to buyout as the cost stays on the books for a long time. this way they get back a player (Sutter) who can help them immediately, and lose only a 2nd/3rd pick that is likely only a 10% chance to make the league anyway...they get Semin off the books and no headache of buyout/etc.
Basically, CAR either buys out Semin and pays him a total of more than 3.5x3, or trades him out along with a pick and let somebody else deal with it. - mventres
when you say they get semin off their books, that would be if they aren't retaining any of his salary. by retaining 3.5 million and taking on (by A LOT of penguins fans opinions) the inflated contract that Sutter has, as well as giving up a pick. Seems to be a very lopsided deal. |
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