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Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 4:16 PM ET
What if they did a trade for his rights.. Say spalingg for kadri
- nh4442



Toronto would never do that. Why would they?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 4:17 PM ET
What if they did a trade for his rights.. Say spalingg for kadri
- nh4442



I really don't want us trading for rights... thats just asking for trouble to occur.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 4:18 PM ET
Never thought Sharp would be a fit for the Pens. Older roster needing to get younger. Lots of clutch older players with great experience closing out teams in the playoffs....

Artemi Panarin, Kyle Baun, and Tanner Kero would have been great young additions for the Pens... Oh, wait.....

Still time on Mike Reilly though. Keep hope alive.

Maybe that Saad offer sheet can bring him back to his hometown? Woops.

- tredbrta


I've seen Kyle Baun play more than your management team. I'm not sure he would have been a better player to go after. There was a kid at PSU, the Pens should have gone after, better than Baun, and we passed.

Stop with the arrogance.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:20 PM ET
I really don't want us trading for rights... thats just asking for trouble to occur.
- Guile


Don't mind if they are RFAs. At least you get the chance to match, or get the compensation if you don't.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:22 PM ET
Toronto would never do that. Why would they?
- Oneonta Penguin


Wasn't 87 mic'd up saying Kadri was garbage to Phaneuf during game?

Never happen.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:22 PM ET
Hearing her 911 call crying about how important she is completely ruined it for me. She just comes off as the biggest b!tch.
- sammy87


Nothing some ear plugs can't fix
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:24 PM ET
Toronto would never do that. Why would they?
- Oneonta Penguin

Kadri has been on the out a for years..they r going to let him walk or pay him a poopty contract. Let's give the spaling. A player who when used efficiency can be like a switch blade.. All 4 lines apparently.. And still you don't think that type of player.can help them
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:24 PM ET
Nothing some ear plugs can't fix
- BourbonCounty


HA!
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Jun 22 @ 4:26 PM ET
no thanks on sharp or kessel. too much $ and too much to give up.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
and it didnt apply to the kings on 2014 either right....so you are making stuff up just like Ryan Wilson does?
- nurk

http://proicehockey.about...to-their-star-players.htm

jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
Kadri has been on the out a for years..they r going to let him walk or pay him a poopty contract. Let's give the spaling. A player who when used efficiency can be like a switch blade.. All 4 lines apparently.. And still you don't think that type of player.can help them
- nh4442


Kadri for Spaling is an insanely uneven trade.
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:30 PM ET
http://proicehockey.about.com/od/nhlnewsscoresstats/fl/NHL-Salary-Cap-How-much-should-teams-commit-to-their-star-players.htm


- SuperHenderson13

$30 million does not equal $50 million.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Jun 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
Wasn't 87 mic'd up saying Kadri was garbage to Phaneuf during game?

Never happen.

- sammy87

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F3hqqyco_ho
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
$30 million does not equal $50 million.
- nurk


It's going based on percentage. The point is crossing the 50% threshold with the top 5 players makes it appear less likely to have a SC competitive team.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
Kadri for Spaling is an insanely uneven trade.
- jfkst1

Fix it
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
$30 million does not equal $50 million.
- nurk


sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:35 PM ET
It's going based on percentage. The point is crossing the 50% threshold with the top 5 players makes it appear less likely to have a SC competitive team.
- jfkst1


87 is still the highest cap hit to win a cup in the cap era. 71 now makes more than him since that happened. I think you can break the teams down even more after the 5 players. No team has won a cup with so much devoted to just 2 players. Hawks will try.
nurk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: City of Champions, PA
Joined: 09.21.2006

Jun 22 @ 4:35 PM ET
It's going based on percentage. The point is crossing the 50% threshold with the top 5 players makes it appear less likely to have a SC competitive team.
- jfkst1

That makes sense. It all goes back to my original question of whether or not RW made a mistake with this quote. "The majority of Stanley Cup Champions have paid their top five players ~50 million."

That was my question and superhenderson said the quote is correct, I wanted to make sure I wasnt seeing something wrong.

To summarize. Saying percentage.....makes sense. Saying $50 million...doesn't.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:38 PM ET
87 is still the highest cap hit to win a cup in the cap era. 71 now makes more than him since that happened. I think you can break the teams down even more after the 5 players. No team has won a cup with so much devoted to just 2 players. Hawks will try.
- sammy87


The nominal cap hits mean nothing though. Crosby's real cap hit in terms of percentage is probably the highest as well.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 22 @ 4:39 PM ET
double
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jun 22 @ 4:40 PM ET
That makes sense. It all goes back to my original question of whether or not RW made a mistake with this quote. "The majority of Stanley Cup Champions have paid their top five players ~50 million."

That was my question and superhenderson said the quote is correct, I wanted to make sure I wasnt seeing something wrong.

To summarize. Saying percentage.....makes sense. Saying $50 million...doesn't.

- nurk

i read the quote wrong. i knew he meant 50% because 50 million would make no sense.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 22 @ 4:42 PM ET
That's a problem with this market. If you don't want to pay big for a guy like Fransen but want just a decent 2nd pairing guy, there isn't much out there. I'd actually be open to an Ehrhoff return but that doesn't look like it's happening. Odulya is one of the few options and again you worry about decline.
- Tojo.


I don't worry about the decline as I see that as being balanced by the incline of the younger guys. Basically, you want a solid D who can chew up minutes and not be a liability, can teach younger guys, etc...only needed for 2-3 years and 1-2 years of that can be in transition to a 3rd pairing from a 2nd pairing. It's a smart play, helps out now on multiple levels as well as in the future..if the older guys still hold value after 1-2 years they can be dealt for a mid/late rnd pick at the deadline...
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
I pray that this is fake:

@TheHockeyChat - BREAKING: Blackhawks & Penguins discussing a potential Patrick Sharp Trade:

Hawks are asking for 2016 First Round Pick+Bennett+Kapanen
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
I pray that this is fake:

@TheHockeyChat - BREAKING: Blackhawks & Penguins discussing a potential Patrick Sharp Trade:

Hawks are asking for 2016 First Round Pick+Bennett+Kapanen

- cap1681


Unless they're adding Saad into that deal...

TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Jun 22 @ 4:48 PM ET
I pray that this is fake:

@TheHockeyChat - BREAKING: Blackhawks & Penguins discussing a potential Patrick Sharp Trade:

Hawks are asking for 2016 First Round Pick+Bennett+Kapanen

- cap1681

That's gross for the Pens
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