Daniel wanted his 20th
- LeftCoaster

Don't tell me who I can cheer for.

Going out and watching the Canucks fail AGAIN with the same roster is prehistoric thinking.

Those guys for four years now have failed with the same unemotional attitude and skill.

I want to give new guys a chance like Baertschi JV Grenier Pedan Sanguinetti Clendenning . I don't care if I lose more , at least I will see a team with a pulse
- VANTEL

Watching the kids lose would be more entertaining than watching the Sedins pass the puck back and forth for 90 seconds of a power play, and that's not tanking.

Watching the kids lose would be more entertaining than watching the Sedins pass the puck back and forth for 90 seconds of a power play.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Thank you.

Jansen Harkens at 23 and Oliver Kylington at 31.
- thundachunk

That works.

Thank you.
- VANTEL

In the words of Roger Waters "I have become comfortably numb"

5 of the 6 last SC winners all have top 5 draft picks.

If you go back to 10 years add Ana and TB .

Teams on the upswing TB Fla Ana Minny Wpg

Teams of the future EDM Buff?

All the teams listed have had rebuilds

Watching the kids lose would be more entertaining than watching the Sedins pass the puck back and forth for 90 seconds of a power play, and that's not tanking.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Absolutely, they are great players, however personally I would like to see a different style of play, or look on both offence and defence. But hey, the hot topic is goaltending as usual with Vancouver! Whatever.

Don't tell me who I can cheer for.

Going out and watching the Canucks fail AGAIN with the same roster is prehistoric thinking.

Those guys for four years now have failed with the same unemotional attitude and skill.

I want to give new guys a chance like Baertschi JV Grenier Pedan Sanguinetti Clendenning . I don't care if I lose more , at least I will see a team with a pulse
- VANTEL

I didn't say anything about the roster, I was talking about tanking which is the equivalent of losing deliberately. I don't want to see the same old, emotionless roster either. I do want to see gradual change as the team builds another contending team.

Absolutely, they are great players, however personally I would like to see a different style of play, or look on both offence and defence. But hey, the hot topic is goaltending as usual with Vancouver! Whatever.
- VanHockeyGuy

Wag the Dog

I didn't say anything about the roster, I was talking about tanking which is the equivalent of losing deliberately. I don't want to see the same old, emotionless roster either. I dowant to see gradual change as the team builds another contending team.
- Marwood

The Sedins interview consists of two speeches . We payed hard enough to win or We didn't play hard enough to win.

Like I said it is up to the players to play their best.

It is up to management to say what players play.

A bad decision by management cost us moving up 8 spots for one meaningless win that top players should have been resting.

5 of the 6 last SC winners all have top 5 draft picks.

If you go back to 10 years add Ana and TB .

Teams on the upswing TB Fla Ana

Teams of the future EDM Buff?

All the teams listed have had rebuilds
- VANTEL

Have the Canucks EVER had a rebuild? they've never had a tear down unless you count the Keenan years

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Have the Canucks EVER had a rebuild? they've never had a tear down.
- A_SteamingLombardi

No but tear downs and rebuilds only started in the cap era . Before teams could buy great teams

The Sedins interview consists of two speeches . We payed hard enough to win or We didn't play hard enough to win.

Like I said it is up to the players to play their best.

It is up to management to say what players play.

A bad decision by management cost us moving up 8 spots for one meaningless win that top players should have been resting.
- VANTEL

They learned that from Naslund and his classic post mortem remark "We Choked"

The Sedins interview consists of two speeches . We payed hard enough to win or We didn't play hard enough to win.

Like I said it is up to the players to play their best.

It is up to management to say what players play.

A bad decision by management cost us moving up 8 spots for one meaningless win that top players should have been resting.
- VANTEL

Hindsight is 20/20.

No but tear downs and rebuilds only started in the cap era . Before teams could buy great teams
- VANTEL

I'm all for a rebuild. If it takes 5-6 years, I can live with it. Just work hard.

Have the Canucks EVER had a rebuild? they've never had a tear down unless you count the Keenan years
- A_SteamingLombardi

I don't think they've ever had a "planned" tank. They just sucked from poor management and drafting thru the years. They had some opportunity to put a cast of great players together with their poor finishes.

Hindsight is 20/20.
- Marwood

True but laying a template for the future isn't..

Like I said if Benning go full tem with The Sedins my prediction is he will be exiting the same year. The culture of this club needs to change this year. He has some hard ass decisions to make, see if he has the stones to do it

Hindsight is 20/20.
- Marwood

I have never been a fan of the Sedin's. I acknowledge they are great players, done lot's for the city and team. Just not my kind of players, or leaders imo.

True but laying a template for the future isn't..

Like I said if Benning go full tem with The Sedins my prediction is he will be exiting the same year. The culture of this club needs to change this year. He has some hard ass decisions to make, see if he has the stones to do it
- VANTEL

I agree somewhat but delibaretely losing is bullsh!t. I want to see change but one has to be both realistic and patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. I hope by next year we see the Sedins transition to the 2nd line and perhaps start to notice the future captain emerging.

I agree somewhat but delibaretely losing is bullsh!t. I want to see change but one has to be both realistic and patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. I hope by next year we see the Sedins transition to the 2nd line and perhaps start to notice the future captain emerging.
- Marwood

No one wants the team to loose deliberately, just start over and work hard. The result at the end of the season won't be that tough to take if that happens. Small steps.

I agree somewhat but delibaretely losing is bullsh!t. I want to see change but one has to be both realistic and patient. Rome wasn't built in a day. I hope by next year we see the Sedins transition to the 2nd line and perhaps start to notice the future captain emerging.
- Marwood

The players on the ice play their hardest. The team sent on the ice is up to the mgmt.

Canucks mgmt should have been well aware of that draft swing by winning one meaningless game. It is not tanking it is strategy. It also rests your top players

No one wants the team to loose deliberately, just start over and work hard. The result at the end of the season won't be that tough to take if that happens. Small steps.
- VanHockeyGuy

About a third of the posters on here are still whining about the team not going into tank mode.

True but laying a template for the future isn't..

Like I said if Benning go full tem with The Sedins my prediction is he will be exiting the same year. The culture of this club needs to change this year. He has some hard ass decisions to make, see if he has the stones to do it
- VANTEL

It's such a fluid thing, professional sports, it's constantly changing and you've gotta react to what's in front of you.

If you're hoping for a complete culture change in one year you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Over the next three years it'll be a changeout of about three players per year until you see a complete overhaul.

The players on the ice play their hardest. The team sent on the ice is up to the mgmt.

Canucks mgmt should have been well aware of that draft swing by winning one meaningless game. It is not tanking it is strategy. It also rests your top players
- VANTEL

They were positioning for home ice advantage for the post season. Losing deliberately is bullsh!t.