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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
Fans fall in love with players too easily. Yes players are human but it is also business. Cheer for the name on the front not the back. I have certain players I like but if they are gone for the betterment of the time so be it.
- thundachunk

If this were to happen we should be moving the twins then
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
I will touch one more thing on tanking , and smart management.


Winning the last game of the year ,when we had a playoff spot clinched , cost us 8 spots in this years draft. We have an old team , to me that is horrible management .

- VANTEL

Winners don`t play to lose. Pride isn`t always a bad thing. Who the F"ck tells their players to go out and lose this one. Seriously WTF
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:41 AM ET
If this were to happen we should be moving the twins then
- VANTEL

Linden was expendable. Why not them. I love them but I am also for change.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:42 AM ET
That's dumb. Can't tell the players to lose. Do you think Bieksa or the Twins give a rats ass about a rebuild?
- HonkyTonkMan

You rest those players for the playoffs and bring in AHL players to assess talent. Edmonton fans should be use to that strategy
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:45 AM ET
Winners don`t play to lose. Pride isn`t always a bad thing. Who the F"ck tells their players to go out and lose this one. Seriously WTF
- thundachunk

You rest your star players for that game. It is done in every sport
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:45 AM ET
Virtanen
- VANTEL

We'll see.
I still prefer living by lower expectations. The fibre of a Canuck fan.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 11:46 AM ET
News 1130 Sports: Brad Richardson said his reps have been negotiating with the Canucks and he’s optimistic about it, despite talks only being in the first stages: “My first priority is to be back with the Canucks. I love the team and love the city, so hopefully something works out.”
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:48 AM ET
News 1130 Sports: Brad Richardson said his reps have been negotiating with the Canucks and he’s optimistic about it, despite talks only being in the first stages: “My first priority is to be back with the Canucks. I love the team and love the city, so hopefully something works out.”
- LeftCoaster

Would answer the fourth line Centre question , if he is cheap and healthy
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 20 @ 11:52 AM ET
That's dumb. Can't tell the players to lose. Do you think Bieksa or the Twins give a rats ass about a rebuild?
- HonkyTonkMan

You only say this because if edm won that game, you likely would not be picking mcdavid
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
Enough with the tanking bullsh!t. It's garbage.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:04 PM ET
Not sure if posted already?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...o-might-the-canucks-take/
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:06 PM ET
Bust.
- Marwood


indeed.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
Nice...Jake Virtanen

Thanks to the great guys at @AbbotsfordDodge for hooking me up with a new ride pic.twitter.com/ys4riDanUg

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
Enough with the tanking bullsh!t. It's garbage.
- Marwood

Why is it garbage? One third of the league used that strategy this year to better the future of their teams. It has now become a strategy of teams .

Toronto stripping down to bare minimum this year with their picks and cap space will be in a much better position after next year than our aging club will be
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
Why is it garbage? One third of the league used that strategy this year to better the future of their teams. It has now become a strategy of teams .

Toronto stripping down to bare minimum this year with their picks and cap space will be in a much better position after next year than our aging club will be

- VANTEL

The effectiveness of losing on purpose has its pro's for sure, that said, unless your management is on board with this, which Linden & Benning aren't, it's really a mute point.

Just my opinion but I think they'll eventually be forced into a few bad seasons when the twins retire. Which should get them some pretty high picks.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:14 PM ET
Not sure if posted already?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...o-might-the-canucks-take/

- LeftCoaster

Jansen Harkens at 23 and Oliver Kylington at 31.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
The effectiveness of losing on purpose has its pro's for sure, that said, unless your management is on board with this, which Linden & Benning aren't, it's really a mute point.

Just my opinion but I think they'll eventually be forced into a few bad seasons when the twins retire. Which should get them some pretty high picks.

- LeftCoaster

It is not up to players to tank. A pro player should always play his best.

If Canucks mgmt said Edler Tanev Hamhuis Sedins Bo we are going to sit you guys out for the last game let you rest for the playoffs .


Canucks lose we move up eight spots and now we sit here discussing if we can trade Edler for the 10 th over all which is five spots better than what we would have had.

Mgmt have to start looking at everything
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:19 PM ET
Jesus a lot of these golfers are whiny (frank)ers!!
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:21 PM ET
It is not up to players to tank. A pro player should always play his best.

If Canucks mgmt said on the lads game Edler Tanev Hamhuis Sedins Bo we are going to sit you guys out for the last game let you rest for the playoffs .


Canucks lose we move up eight spots and now we sit here discussing if we can trade Edler for the 10 th over all which is five spots better than what we would have had.

Mgmt have to start looking at everything

- VANTEL

I get your point for sure...but they were headed into the playoffs and I believe they believed they had a chance to win a Cup if they got on a roll.

You wanna head into the playoffs on a winning note with everyone feeling positive. I guarantee you they gave two poops about draft position.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
I get your point for sure...but they were headed into the playoffs and I believe they believed they had a chance to win a Cup if they got on a roll.

You wanna head into the playoffs on a winning note with everyone feeling positive. I guarantee you they gave two poops about draft position.

- LeftCoaster


Would the team have been bettered served resting the top players with a few more days off?

This is not a young team anymore . You should not be trying to get 82 games out of the twins or Burrows


As much as old school fans don't like it strategic positional finishing is becoming part of the game. It lays the foundation for the next decade of your team.

Trading has become very difficult and teams are locking up top players , so drafting and development is key.

Like I said sometimes you have to strip right down and start over
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 20 @ 12:26 PM ET
Jesus a lot of these golfers are whiny (frank)ers!!
- LeftCoaster

That's no way to talk about Scooby
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 20 @ 12:26 PM ET
Would the team have been bettered served resting the top players with a few more days off?

This is not a young team anymore . You should not be trying to get 82 games out of the twins or Burrows

- VANTEL

Daniel wanted his 20th
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:26 PM ET
You rest those players for the playoffs and bring in AHL players to assess talent. Edmonton fans should be use to that strategy
- VANTEL

The Oilers assess AHL talent in the bigs all year long
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:28 PM ET
Why is it garbage? One third of the league used that strategy this year to better the future of their teams. It has now become a strategy of teams .

Toronto stripping down to bare minimum this year with their picks and cap space will be in a much better position after next year than our aging club will be

- VANTEL

It's f*cking garbage. If you want to cheer on sh!t teams with no integrity then cheer for the Leafs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:33 PM ET
It's f*cking garbage. If you want to cheer on sh!t teams with no integrity then cheer for the Leafs.
- Marwood

Don't tell me who I can cheer for.

Going out and watching the Canucks fail AGAIN with the same roster is prehistoric thinking.

Those guys for four years now have failed with the same unemotional attitude and skill.

I want to give new guys a chance like Baertschi JV Grenier Pedan Sanguinetti Clendenning . I don't care if I lose more , at least I will see a team with a pulse
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