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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:58 AM ET
Aquilini wants to win. First of all, he is not accustomed to not winning. He likes winning. It's his nature. He's a billionaire.

Also, the more the Canucks win the more money he makes. Fans who think all he cares about is getting a couple home playoff games need to think about what that really matters to him. What's a few extra million in the grand scheme of things to a billionaire? Another Cup run, or even better a Cup victory, are worth so much more to him financially that the thought that all he really wants is a couple extra playoff games every year is just so Botchford.

- KB3Point0


Spot on, just because mgmt want to compete every year doesn't mean aquaman is pushing an agenda of playoff revenue.
Owners don't buy sports teams to make money, they do it to show everyone else how much money they have.
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 1:59 AM ET
Varlamov ?
- artem791


Yeah he was reeeeeeeal soleeeeed this year.

DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 20 @ 2:01 AM ET
Just goes to show you that, no matter what a player like Crawford does, it's never going to be good enough. I think at this point, after having won two cups, there shouldn't be any debate as to the quality of his play. Contrary to what most people think, even though Chicago has a great defense, they would still not win if Crawford wasn't sharp and battled through many of the very close playoff match-ups. Perhaps he's not the sexiest pick as concerns goaltenders and he may not be as acrobatic or flashy as others, but he's right up there in the top tier level of net minders nonetheless. He just gets the job done and that's the most important thing. All else is irrelevant.
- Zogg


They probably would still win, but likely they'd have to outscore their opponents more without Crawford in net. To me as long as you can make the key save at the right moment is more important than anything. Let's just say I think Crawford does what he needs to and the team does the rest.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Jun 20 @ 2:02 AM ET
Aquilini does not want 2 home games.

One thing that gets forgotten in this place is the true competitive nature of professional sports. Not many people who make it into the uper echelons on competitive sports teams are willing to purposefully lose. EVER.

This whole notion of tanking is f*cking disgusting.

- KB3Point0

That's Malarkey. Plenty of smart owners understand the rebuild process...others do not. For years the Leafs were not aloud to rebuild because the Ont Teachers Pension people wanted minimum 2 games of playoff revenue.

They did not have any (frank)s to give about the Stanley Cup.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 20 @ 2:03 AM ET
Trade Lack cause he'll net more than Markstrom. Get as much as possible. Doubt a move from 23 to 16 though. As far as him being a fan favourite, couldn't care less. Make the best hockey move possible and DO NOT LISTEN TO THE FANS!

Caanata is only there to play in the AHL. We need to ice a team there too.

Conacher sucks.

- KB3Point0


I agree make the best hockey move, alas I don't think that involves moving lack just because he will fetch more than markstrom.

Should we move Tanev and keep Sbisa just because he has more value?


artem791
Colorado Avalanche
Location: saint catharines, ON
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:28 AM ET
Yeah he was reeeeeeeal soleeeeed this year.


- rugdnit


Because that Quick guy had a great year too....


Varly played very well when he wasn't injured
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 9:30 AM ET
Never said anything like that.
- KB3Point0

There is a huge difference between tanking and knowing you need to start over again. Canucks have a current bunch of dandelions but are trying to grow a rose garden. It is never going to happen with this group . The core is wilting. Sometimes you realize you don't have the proper mix and need to re seed.

Tanking is where you want a bad team. We want a better team but we understand the process how to get there .

You might even say that people that want the rebuild are more passionate about winning than the people wanting the slow and steady route of mediocre team for years.

You need top end players to win a cup . There are very few ways to get that
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 20 @ 10:14 AM ET
I agree make the best hockey move, alas I don't think that involves moving lack just because he will fetch more than markstrom.

Should we move Tanev and keep Sbisa just because he has more value?

- belcherbd



Ok that's a tad silly. We all know why and I won't go into it as you know why and it's been beaten to death on this forum....
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:16 AM ET
Just goes to show you that, no matter what a player like Crawford does, it's never going to be good enough. I think at this point, after having won two cups, there shouldn't be any debate as to the quality of his play. Contrary to what most people think, even though Chicago has a great defense, they would still not win if Crawford wasn't sharp and battled through many of the very close playoff match-ups. Perhaps he's not the sexiest pick as concerns goaltenders and he may not be as acrobatic or flashy as others, but he's right up there in the top tier level of net minders nonetheless. He just gets the job done and that's the most important thing. All else is irrelevant.
- Zogg

He's a mucker that's for sure. Winning a Stanley automatically means that your price goes up so no big surprise he has a big contract.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 10:16 AM ET
Ok that's a tad silly. We all know why and I won't go into it as you know why and it's been beaten to death on this forum....
- chompsey

We have three months , we have time.


The baby has you up early I see
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:19 AM ET
Because that Quick guy had a great year too....


Varly played very well when he wasn't injured

- artem791



So Quick = Varly ?

Sounds legit.
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 10:21 AM ET
They probably would still win, but likely they'd have to outscore their opponents more without Crawford in net. To me as long as you can make the key save at the right moment is more important than anything. Let's just say I think Crawford does what he needs to and the team does the rest.
- DariusKnight



Guys like Grant Fuhr did what they needed to.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 10:24 AM ET
Guys like Grant Fuhr did what they needed to.
- rugdnit

Coke?
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
Yeah he was reeeeeeeal soleeeeed this year.


- rugdnit

Why you heff to be like thees?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 20 @ 11:07 AM ET
Sam Bennett turns 19 today ....he is no longer only 18
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:10 AM ET
Sam Bennett turns 19 today ....he is no longer only 18
- Redmile247

Bust.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Jun 20 @ 11:11 AM ET
Sam Bennett turns 19 today ....he is no longer only 18
- Redmile247

Seasoned vet.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 20 @ 11:12 AM ET
We have three months , we have time.


The baby has you up early I see

- VANTEL



Oh this is a sleepin by his standard - normally he's a 5 am kinda guy.....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:19 AM ET
Oh this is a sleepin by his standard - normally he's a 5 am kinda guy.....
- chompsey


Got to love kids . They train us well
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:19 AM ET
Sam Bennett turns 19 today ....he is no longer only 18
- Redmile247

Who?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:26 AM ET
Who?
- VANTEL

Rookie sensation.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:29 AM ET
Rookie sensation.
- Marwood

Virtanen
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:38 AM ET
I will touch one more thing on tanking , and smart management.


Winning the last game of the year ,when we had a playoff spot clinched , cost us 8 spots in this years draft. We have an old team , to me that is horrible management .
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:38 AM ET
Trade Lack cause he'll net more than Markstrom. Get as much as possible. Doubt a move from 23 to 16 though. As far as him being a fan favourite, couldn't care less. Make the best hockey move possible and DO NOT LISTEN TO THE FANS!

Caanata is only there to play in the AHL. We need to ice a team there too.

Conacher sucks.

- KB3Point0

Fans fall in love with players too easily. Yes players are human but it is also business. Cheer for the name on the front not the back. I have certain players I like but if they are gone for the betterment of the time so be it.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Jun 20 @ 11:40 AM ET
I will touch one more thing on tanking , and smart management.


Winning the last game of the year ,when we had a playoff spot clinched , cost us 8 spots in this years draft. We have an old team , to me that is horrible management .

- VANTEL

That's dumb. Can't tell the players to lose. Do you think Bieksa or the Twins give a rats ass about a rebuild?
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