He doesn't get the love because he's not athletic like Price or Quick. He has the occasional really bad game and people assume that his great games are a result of the d.
- Canuckleafer

Understood.

I said it in the other thread--

WIN = Everybody played great!

LOSS= Man our goalie sucks.

I said he is good or decent. He is not a top 10 in the world . He is probably somewhere in the 10-20 range . His numbers are inflated because of team in front of him having the puck most of the time. If he was truely an elite goalie Chicago would not have him on the block. Even in the playoffs Chicago started to try to switch to Darling but he crapped the bed too.

Crawford is a decent goalie with a bad contract
- VANTEL

I think he's a damn good goalie with a bad contract.

We can agree to disagree. It's ok.

We're just two idiots on the internet

I was saying either or, if bought out, any interest in signing him.

or

try to acquire him for someone like Higgins
- belcherbd

OK gotcha!

I said he is good or decent. He is not a top 10 in the world . He is probably somewhere in the 10-20 range . His numbers are inflated because of team in front of him having the puck most of the time. If he was truely an elite goalie Chicago would not have him on the block. Even in the playoffs Chicago started to try to switch to Darling but he crapped the bed too.

Crawford is a decent goalie with a bad contract
- VANTEL

Darling poop the bed? What series were you watching? He played incredibly well.

That being said, any decision to move Crawford would be for cap reasons only. Management really likes Crawford but Darling looks like the real deal, and he comes with a significant cap savings.

I think he's a damn good goalie with a bad contract.

We can agree to disagree. It's ok.

We're just two idiots on the internet
- rugdnit

Price
Rinne
Quick
Lunqvist
Rask
Schneider
Bobrosky
Luongo

I guess I rank him as 9 th . I take it back , but I am not convinced he is better than Fluery Bishop . I think this is where the team in front of him is better

Darling poop the bed? What series were you watching? He played incredibly well.

That being said, any decision to move Crawford would be for cap reasons only. Management really likes Crawford but Darling looks like the real deal, and he comes with a significant cap savings.
- Canuckleafer

Why was darling pulled because he had 2 bad games

Understood.

I said it in the other thread--

WIN = Everybody played great!

LOSS= Man our goalie sucks.
- rugdnit

As a beer league goalie myself, it's completely true. A solid d makes the world of difference. Quick's best performances came when his d played well in front. The series against Van in the playoffs a few years ago, his d forced most of the shots to the outside. If you're confident in your defence, you can focus on the principle play ahead of you and not be worried as much with the other noise.

Why was darling pulled because he had 2 bad games
- VANTEL

He was 2.22 gga with a . 936 save percentage. I'd say that's pretty damn good.

He was 2.22 gga with a . 936 save percentage. I'd say that's pretty damn good.
- Canuckleafer

Yes, you have to remember that the best goalies to ever play the game finish their careers roughly 2.40-2.60Gaa and around a .91% save average.
But the most important stat I find is Ws....when it comes down to it your goalie can have average or even the odd bad night, but they have to be better than the guy at the other end of the rink.

He was 2.22 gga with a . 936 save percentage. I'd say that's pretty damn good.
- Canuckleafer

I remember the good old days when a guy like Richard Brodeur sported a 3.35 GAA and that was 3rd best in the league...

Goalie equipment is way too big these days....

I remember the good old days when a guy like Richard Brodeur sported a 3.35 GAA and that was 3rd best in the league...

Goalie equipment is way too big these days....
- chompsey

Equipment has improved the stats for sure but no other position in hockey has seen the significant improvements in technique and training. Goalies now are far more athletic than previous generations.

I remember the good old days when a guy like Richard Brodeur sported a 3.35 GAA and that was 3rd best in the league...

Goalie equipment is way too big these days....
- chompsey

So are the goalies. The goalies are now over 6 feet in size and bigger. They need to make the nets bigger in order to compensate.

I remember the good old days when a guy like Richard Brodeur sported a 3.35 GAA and that was 3rd best in the league...

Goalie equipment is way too big these days....
- chompsey

How long is it going to be before something concrete is done with respect to this issue. It seems like this has been on-going for quite some time now, but without any sort of palatable solution.

If you watched the play-offs, you couldn't help but note that guys like Crawford and Bishop - who are already quite big - looked like they covered the entire net when fully dressed in their gear. It's just gotten ridiculous and something needs to be done.

It's almost shocking to watch old videos of games during the 80's and 90's. The goalies looked like stick-figures in comparison to what they look like now. I'm sure goaltender safety wouldn't be compromised if they continue to work on a reasonable set of equipment parameters. Get it @#$@$ done, NHL.

How long is it going to be before something concrete is done with respect to this issue. It seems like this has been on-going for quite some time now, but without any sort of palatable solution.

If you watched the play-offs, you couldn't help but note that guys like Crawford and Bishop - who are already quite big - looked like they covered the entire net when fully dressed in their gear. It's just gotten ridiculous and something needs to be done.

It's almost shocking to watch old videos of games during the 80's and 90's. The goalies looked like stick-figures in comparison to what they look like now. I'm sure goaltender safety wouldn't be compromised if they continue to work on a reasonable set of equipment parameters. Get it @#$@$ done, NHL.
- Zogg

The goalies would agree to a reduction in pad sizing if the players go back to wood sticks.

Price
Rinne
Quick
Lunqvist
Rask
Schneider
Bobrosky
Luongo

I guess I rank him as 9 th . I take it back , but I am not convinced he is better than Fluery Bishop . I think this is where the team in front of him is better
- VANTEL

I don't have Fluery in the top 10. He worked hard and bounced back this last year; however, he's had too many seasons where he is off. Management has been all over him about his conditioning and his level of fitness. For all the firepower in front of him he has 1 cup. He's had too many seasons where he was just awful.

BOB caught lightning in a bottle 2 years ago and this year the team was decimated by injury. I need a larger sample size from him to put him in the top 10.

LOU to me is not as mentally strong. He has stretches of brilliance, but not always a complete game ( that one thread on the sweater and he can completely unravel-- Too bad it was Bieksa pulling the thread on many nights ). If he had the intestinal fortitude of a top 10 goalie the city would have rioted anyway, but for the " right " reasons? Great Twitter Comic and Damn Good Goalie on a bad team, but he doesn't have the tools or the drive to win at all costs. As much as I hated Tim Thomas-- You could see he refused to give up. Battle Born.

Hell even Rask has given up some back breakers when the team needed him most. He's a damn good goalie though.

For me... Crawford and Bishop are in that top ten in that order... Say 8-9???

I remember the good old days when a guy like Richard Brodeur sported a 3.35 GAA and that was 3rd best in the league...

Goalie equipment is way too big these days....
- chompsey

What's a backcheck?

As a beer league goalie myself, it's completely true. A solid d makes the world of difference. Quick's best performances came when his d played well in front. The series against Van in the playoffs a few years ago, his d forced most of the shots to the outside. If you're confident in your defence, you can focus on the principle play ahead of you and not be worried as much with the other noise.
- Canuckleafer

D that battle for rebounds and puck control in their own end make all the difference.

I might know a thing or two as well about goaltending.

It definitely helps understand it a little better if you have had the inverted perspective a tender gets.

You are completely right here.

EDIT: How many times did Lou get made to look like a fool because, he didn't trust his D and got caught second guessing? That's when those softies float in. When you have NO confidence in your D-Core.

So what's the asking price for Markstromm?

Just so save us some time, significantly less than Draisaitl and the 33rd, I hope.

So what's the asking price for Markstromm?

Just so save us some time, significantly less than Draisaitl and the 33rd, I hope.
- HonkyTonkMan

Nurse


Probably a third rounder

Roger Waters the Wall Movie, world wide release Sept 29th tickets on sale today.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Good to know thx.

I caught The Wall live in concert a few years back and it was one of the best shows I have ever seen. I managed to get a free club seat from a buddy and if I had known it was going to be that good I would have paid full price X2.

When Waters started the intro to 'Mother'...there was not a dry eye in the house. It was an incredible thing to witness the music having that much impact on 20,000 strong.

He doesn't get the love because he's not athletic like Price or Quick. He has the occasional really bad game and people assume that his great games are a result of the d.
- Canuckleafer

He doesn't get the love because he is nowhere near Price and Quicks' level...it's not even close. It's the team and especially the D in front of him.

Seabrook and Keith could make Reimer seem like an all star.

mgmt is just saying what Aquilini wants (2 home playoff games) It's not what I want.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Aquilini does not want 2 home games.

One thing that gets forgotten in this place is the true competitive nature of professional sports. Not many people who make it into the uper echelons on competitive sports teams are willing to purposefully lose. EVER.

This whole notion of tanking is f*cking disgusting.

True enough, for now at least. But if the intention is to improve this team via draft then we'll need to trade something of value to acquire those draft picks.

The sad truth is that I don't see much in trade value in any of the players we're looking to deal.
- AlexF

Hamhuis & Vrbata would both fetch us something great! Same with Edler. Bieksa would get us good return. Same with Tanev. Apart from that our vets will likely get us little.

I agree 100% , Crawford is overrated playing in front of a stacked D

I was reading an Edmonton blog and one the Blackhawk fans suggested the 16th pick and Draisaitl for Crawford
- sdoney

Crawford is underrated. Everyone thinks he sucks and is overrated due to the team in front of him. He has his momentary lapses, but look how GREAT he played in the majority of the playoffs, especially the finals. Pretty awesome offensive team he held to very few goals. Made not only a tonne of really good saves, but was lights out when it mattered most, in the 3rd and OT.

I agree 100% , Crawford is overrated playing in front of a stacked D

I was reading an Edmonton blog and one the Blackhawk fans suggested the 16th pick and Draisaitl for Crawford
- sdoney

That being said, Draisaitl or #16 would be nuts!