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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:18 PM ET
I'm certain his financial adviser is doing all he can to educate him on the consequences of walking away from $5.5 million dollars. If he isn't, he's a horrible adviser and should be fired immediately.

Just because you are already rich doesn't mean you can/should walk away from money.

- Scoob


Might be even more than that, because there's no guarantee that he'd even get another offer. Maybe the best he can get is a tryout.

Me, I'd try to trade him & if he wasn't tradeable, I'd just take the hit me buy him out.
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:19 PM ET
You are correct. Nepotism?
- missingmike


Not like Hextall's son who is on pace to be the next captain of the Flyers
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:19 PM ET
Based on their season ticket price, I think they overcharged you.
- jmatchett383

I asked for free beer
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
Eh, Esposito never bugged me. I think he's funny. He knows how to play the game and was playing it well there.

I'd love to see clips of that game.

- Scoob




Dave Brown's the dude in the gray hoodie who punches the dude in the throat at 0:44

Edit: I'm assuming that the dude in the white hoodie who gets his ass handed to him is Brayden Schenn.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:24 PM ET
Might be even more than that, because there's no guarantee that he'd even get another offer. Maybe the best he can get is a tryout.
- Jsaquella


Right. Earlier I posted that imho he shouldn't consider a mutual termination unless he already has a handshake deal in place that gets him at least 75% of what he'd be walking away from.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:26 PM ET


Dave Brown's the dude in the gray hoodie who punches the dude in the throat at 0:44

Edit: I'm assuming that the dude in the white hoodie who gets his ass handed to him is Brayden Schenn.

- jmatchett383




I'm not even going to watch it now for fear of it not matching your descriptions.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
I think the problem is he is concerned if he'll have one possible option, versus having 29. If he is a UFA, he could be looking at a camp tryout.
- MJL

Yeah, I seriously doubt teams are clamoring to sign him given his recent track record. I'm not holding my breath for a mutual termination.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:29 PM ET


Dave Brown's the dude in the gray hoodie who punches the dude in the throat at 0:44

Edit: I'm assuming that the dude in the white hoodie who gets his ass handed to him is Brayden Schenn.

- jmatchett383



Classy bunch of douchebags in both sweaters.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
Right. Earlier I posted that imho he shouldn't consider a mutual termination unless he already has a handshake deal in place that gets him at least 75% of what he'd be walking away from.
- Scoob


Also, if he doesn't agree or can't be traded, or doesn't doa termination, then I tell him, the only way he's playing is if there's so many injuries I can't fit another body
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:32 PM ET


Dave Brown's the dude in the gray hoodie who punches the dude in the throat at 0:44

Edit: I'm assuming that the dude in the white hoodie who gets his ass handed to him is Brayden Schenn.

- jmatchett383


Animals, every single one of them. Just another reason I enjoy saving my money and watching safely from my living room.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
Also, if he doesn't agree or can't be traded, or doesn't doa termination, then I tell him, the only way he's playing is if there's so many injuries I can't fit another body
- Jsaquella

tbh I don't even consider scratching him to be some sort of threat or method of persuasion. He earns (or doesn't) his ice time just like everybody else. There's no star player track record to lean on for him anymore.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
Also, if he doesn't agree or can't be traded, or doesn't doa termination, then I tell him, the only way he's playing is if there's so many injuries I can't fit another body
- Jsaquella


If his agent isn't fielding promising calls that may be his only option.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
just got my free draft tickets from the Panthers
- vejim

Make sure you get there early and talk to all of the famous people you can. There's a draft party for MvW the night before. That's usually pretty cool.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Right. Earlier I posted that imho he shouldn't consider a mutual termination unless he already has a handshake deal in place that gets him at least 75% of what he'd be walking away from.
- Scoob



So you believe he would rather sit in the press box and watch, rather that attempt to play somewhere else because of money? That seems to be his two options.

I understand that the playing somewhere else is not guaranteed, definitely not at 75%. I don't think 75% is happening no matter what.

But I cant believe that a 35 year old, filthy rich, professional athlete, who is probably close to retirement, would rather take the money over the chance to play, even if it is for way less.

If he were a school teacher making 40 grand I would probably feel differently.


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Animals, every single one of them. Just another reason I enjoy saving my money and watching safely from my living room.
- hockeylover


I don't know if I'd call them "animals." We were 2 sections over and the NYR fans started just screaming poop at people after the game got out of hand (after Simmer's hat trick). Not saying it's justification for resorting to physical violence, because I don't think I'd ever fight someone over a sporting event, but it wasn't exactly out of nowhere.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:39 PM ET
So you believe he would rather sit in the press box and watch, rather that attempt to play somewhere else because of money? That seems to be his two options.

I understand that the playing somewhere else is not guaranteed, definitely not at 75%. I don't think 75% is happening no matter what.

But I cant believe that a 35 year old, filthy rich, professional athlete, who is probably close to retirement, would rather take the money over the chance to play, even if it is for way less.

If he were a school teacher making 40 grand I would probably feel differently.

- MBFlyerfan


I have no idea what he'd rather do, or how he prioritizes all of the things that must be considered.

Only he can do that.

Maybe he's another Timonen - wants to go out in skates but physically can't do it. Why give up $5.5m here to take $1m somewhere else and end up riding the pine anyway?

Who knows?

Only one person...him.
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Jun 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
Did I miss something?

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...-not-hackstols-in-philly/

Edit- Leight/dumb
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Did I miss something?

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...-not-hackstols-in-philly/

- Trainfellow


Seems you're up to speed
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:51 PM ET
Even still, I don't know how people believe these guys will just voluntarily walkaway from milions of dollars.

Is there a precedent? I do not recall a player retiring before the end of his contract and leaving millions on the table?

- Aetherial

Brian Rafalski
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Is there a precedent? I do not recall a player retiring before the end of his contract and leaving millions on the table?
- Aetherial


Rafalski left $6M on the table -- he bowed out before his body completely fell apart on him. (edit: laught)

And didn't Scott Niedermeyer walk away from the last year of his deal?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Brian Rafalski
- aightwebang17


The 37-year-old defenceman had knee and back injuries that limited him to a career-low 63 games last season, putting him on the training table every day for treatment.

"How much fun is it to come to the rink when you can hardly walk?" Detroit coach Mike Babcock asked, adding he's thrilled Rafalski is leaving on his own terms.


missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jun 18 @ 3:01 PM ET
Not like Hextall's son who is on pace to be the next captain of the Flyers
- Trainfellow

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:15 PM ET
The 37-year-old defenceman had knee and back injuries that limited him to a career-low 63 games last season, putting him on the training table every day for treatment.

"How much fun is it to come to the rink when you can hardly walk?" Detroit coach Mike Babcock asked, adding he's thrilled Rafalski is leaving on his own terms.

- Scoob



He could have gone on LTIR... he just walked away from the cash.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 3:15 PM ET
AHLTraveler will be happy about the murray news
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 18 @ 3:16 PM ET
the flyers do not need vinnys cap space right now as they are not contending. same with umberger. No way do you buy them out and have that cap hit 3 years from now when you hope they are contending. actually might help them as they don't have the $ to overpay anyone.....

if he has to sit in the press box so be it. I do not believe it will be distraction or anything of that nature. if it does you deal with it. Flyers hold all the cards imo and can just let him rot really.
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