The Oilers don't need to trade for this supposed "stud" kid that other teams are giving away either. Nurse is the Oilers stud and they don't need to move big name players for other teams top prospects that MIGHT turn into good players.
- Dangles13

100% Bubba. We argue with dinks all the time:

"The Oilers are unwilling to trade a young forward for a young D man"
" nobody will give up a young D man for a young forward"

Rinse. Repeat, until we settle for Neon Dion.

Agreed, a quality group of defensemen is what the Oilers really could use. Not more guys with bad habits. There appears to be a tipping point with some of your guys where bad habits are increasing more than positive growth. Phaneuf or Green would merely regress in such an environment.

Sekera would be a step in the right direction though. Some stability via Beauchemin, Sekera, ect would put Fayne (among others) into a more comfortable reduced role that would help produce wins and, in turn, develop habits that lead to a more solid defence team-wide.
- fry

I like the idea of Beauchemin on a two year deal, he can come in and mentor the kids and teach them good habits and be off the books before the Oilers run into cap trouble.

100% Bubba. We argue with drinks all the time:

"The Oilers are unwilling to trade a young forward for a young D man"
" nobody will give up a young D man for a young forward"

Rinse. Repeat, until we settle for Neon Dion.
- Jeropotato

If only us fans would stop ruining the Oilers.

Agreed, a quality group of defensemen is what the Oilers really could use. Not more guys with bad habits. There appears to be a tipping point with some of your guys where bad habits are increasing more than positive growth. Phaneuf or Green would merely regress in such an environment.

Sekera would be a step in the right direction though. Some stability via Beauchemin, Sekera, ect would put Fayne (among others) into a more comfortable reduced role that would help produce wins and, in turn, develop habits that lead to a more solid defence team-wide.
- fry

Yup. I would love to see at least 2 if not 3 veteran D added for the short term. I also think we should consider moving one of Schultz or Marincin. Right now, our D is a mess.

Klefbom - great but inexperienced
Marincin- ok. Kinda soft. Inexperienced
Schultz- ok. One dimensional .realtively inexperienced but getting there.
Ferrence- experienced. But old. And kinda sucks.
Nikitin- sucks but kinda sucks as well.
Fayne- solid bottom 3 defender. No concerns.
Nurse- inexperienced.

Wow. 1 defense man that has experience and doesn't kick balls. Scary.

Rumour floating that EDM is willing to trade #33 for Lack...some Canuck poster at HF who apparently has called signings/trades in the past.

I like the idea of Beauchemin on a two year deal, he can come in and mentor the kids and teach them good habits and be off the books before the Oilers run into cap trouble.
- Dangles13

Oh (frank) yeah. I don't if I want to see Schultz and Jlefbom all year together next season. Maybe. But not top pair.

Oh (frank) yeah. I don't if I want to see Schultz and Jlefbom all year together next season. Maybe. But not top pair.
- Jeropotato

Nurse needs a mentor as well. Beuachemin and Michalek on short term contracts would be nice, assuming Nikitin or Ference is traded.

Rumour floating that EDM is willing to trade #33 for Lack...some Canuck poster at HF who apparently has called signings/trades in the past.
- Nucker101

Some twat who got lucky a few times?

I dunno...Everyone knows PC is shopping 16, 33 and 57.
Everyone knows we're getting goalie.

Seems like there is at least a 10% chance it turns out.

Nurse needs a mentor as well. Beuachemin and Michalek on short term contracts would be nice, assuming Nikitin or Ference is traded.
- Dangles13

Traded or killed. Either or works for me.

Traded or killed. Either or works for me.
- Jeropotato

That voids a contract?

That voids a contract?
- Dangles13

I would assume so. Going to Bass Pro Shop in the AM?

Some twat who got lucky a few times?

I dunno...Everyone knows PC is shopping 16, 33 and 57.
Everyone knows we're getting goalie.

Seems like there is at least a 10% chance it turns out.
- Jeropotato

Yeah, but I honestly think that's a solid ass deal for the Oilers if it goes down.

Yeah, but I honestly think that's a solid ass deal for the Oilers if it goes down.
- Nucker101

But you wouldn't pay more for the Flames? How solid is it?
I'm not opposed to it....but it's not my first pick.

But you wouldn't pay more for the Flames? How solid is it?
I'm not opposed to it....but it's not my first pick.
- Jeropotato

Oh, I forgot the Oilers had Hiller/Ramo/Ortio/Gillies/McDonald

Brossoit is a decent prospect but you guys have a big streaming pile of poop otherwise. I'd trade for Lack before:

Talbot - played on a much stronger team, given easy starts
Lehner - hasn't done poop, not even that great in the AHL
Anderson - like him quite a bit but age is an issue
Niemi - meh


Bernier is the one I'd take over Lack but he's going to cost more. If the Flames needed a goalie badly, of easily trade an early 2nd for Lack. When you draft a goalie in the 2nd, you'd be pretty happy if he develops like Lack has so far. His only bad year as a pro was when he was playing through a bad hip in the AHL and needed surgery during the season, outside of that he's been rock solid on the AHL and NHL.

He was playing as well as Luongo in 2013/2014 before Torts decided to go full tard and give him like 30 straight starts which is stupid as hell since it was Lack's first legit season in the NHL. Then he was flat out better than Miller this year.

I would assume so. Going to Bass Pro Shop in the AM?
- Jeropotato

No I can't... I got a thing... me and Nikitin got a.... thing.

Goalies are just not great bets and you can see NHL teams reflect that realization in their Drafting. Since the 2007 NHL Draft there have been exactly 6 times. Just 6 times in 8 Drafts or 6/240 selections in the 1st Round. That means just 2.5% of 1st Round selections in that time have been goaltenders. There’s plenty of reason to believe that a goalie they rate very highly will still be there when the Oilers draft again at 33.
- Matt Henderson

How conveniently you stop at 2007.

2006 - Jonathan Bernier (1/11) - Starting Goalie: Toronto
2006 - Riku Helenius (1/15) - 1 NHL Game, now in KHL
2006 - Semyon Varlamov (1/23) - Starting Goalie: Colorado - All Star
2006 - Leland Irving (1/26) - 13 NHL Games, now in KHL
2005 - Carey Price (1/5) - Starting Goalie: Montreal - All Star, Vezina Winner, Hart Winner (We all know he's gonna win this year....)
2005 - Tuukka Rask (1/21) - Starting Goalie: Boston - All Star
2004 - Al Montoya (1/6) - 111 NHL Games, current backup for Florida
2004 - Devan Dubnyk (1/14) - Starting Goalie: Minnesota - Vezina Nominee
2004 - Marek Schwarz (1/17) - 4 NHL Games, now in Czech Extraliga
2004 - Cory Schneider (1/26) - Starting Goalie: New Jersey Devils
2003 - Marc-Andre Fleury (1/1) - Starting Goalie: Pittsburgh - All Star, Stanley Cup Champion
2002 - Kari Lehtonen (1/2) - Starting Goalie: Dallas
2002 - Cam Ward (1/25) - Starting Goalie: Carolina - All Star, Stanley Cup Champion, Conn Smythe
2002 - Hannu Toivonen (1/29) - 61 NHL Games, now in Finnish Liiga

Of the 14 goalies drafted between 2002-2006, 9 of them are starting goaltenders in the league and 7 of them have some sort of NHL honors (All Star, Vezina, Stanley Cup, Conn Smythe). Only 4 of 14 turned out to be busts. Not a bad hit rate.

Oh, I forgot the Oilers had Hiller/Ramo/Ortio/Gillies/McDonald

Brossoit is a decent prospect but you guys have a big streaming pile of poop otherwise. I'd trade for Lack before:

Talbot - played on a much stronger team, given easy starts
Lehner - hasn't done poop, not even that great in the AHL
Anderson - like him quite a bit but age is an issue
Niemi - meh


Bernier is the one I'd take over Lack but he's going to cost more. If the Flames needed a goalie badly, of easily trade an early 2nd for Lack. When you draft a goalie in the 2nd, you'd be pretty happy if he develops like Lack has so far. His only bad year as a pro was when he was playing through a bad hip in the AHL and needed surgery during the season, outside of that he's been rock solid on the AHL and NHL.

He was playing as well as Luongo in 2013/2014 before Torts decided to go full tard and give him like 30 straight starts which is stupid as hell since it was Lack's first legit season in the NHL. Then he was flat out better than Miller this year.
- Nucker101

As far as I'm concerned, it comes down to three goalies for me: Lack, Bernier, or Lehtonen.

Lack is lacking experience, but has a solid resume and a jovial attitude that I think would go a long way to endearing himself to Edmonton.
- Most I'd give is 33rd. Nothing more.

Bernier is my ideal acquisition at the right cost. Coming off a below average season and heading into RFA, he could likely be resigned at a reasonable rate and everything about him screams capable NHL starter. He now has a resume to back up the price he'd likely cost and has experience playing behind a porous defense. It's like a match made in heaven!
- I'd go as high as the next year's 1st and a lesser propsect.

Lehtonen is apparently being shopped after a less than stellar season. Sure he's aging and has an injury history but, with the exception of this past season, he's at the very least a quality NHL starter. He has experience behind a porous defense as well (having played his entire career behind such) and his contract is only 3 years long. Perfect for the McDavid timeline!
- They're actively shopping him as a cap dump so I wouldn't offer much more than the 57th unless in combination with one of Goligoski or Daley (also apparently being shopped).

How conveniently you stop at 2007.

2006 - Jonathan Bernier (1/11) - Starting Goalie: Toronto
2006 - Riku Helenius (1/15) - 1 NHL Game, now in KHL
2006 - Semyon Varlamov (1/23) - Starting Goalie: Colorado - All Star
2006 - Leland Irving (1/26) - 13 NHL Games, now in KHL
2005 - Carey Price (1/5) - Starting Goalie: Montreal - All Star, Vezina Winner, Hart Winner (We all know he's gonna win this year....)
2005 - Tuukka Rask (1/21) - Starting Goalie: Boston - All Star
2004 - Al Montoya (1/6) - 111 NHL Games, current backup for Florida
2004 - Devan Dubnyk (1/14) - Starting Goalie: Minnesota - Vezina Nominee
2004 - Marek Schwarz (1/17) - 4 NHL Games, now in Czech Extraliga
2004 - Cory Schneider (1/26) - Starting Goalie: New Jersey Devils
2003 - Marc-Andre Fleury (1/1) - Starting Goalie: Pittsburgh - All Star, Stanley Cup Champion
2002 - Kari Lehtonen (1/2) - Starting Goalie: Dallas
2002 - Cam Ward (1/25) - Starting Goalie: Carolina - All Star, Stanley Cup Champion, Conn Smythe
2002 - Hannu Toivonen (1/29) - 61 NHL Games, now in Finnish Liiga

Of the 14 goalies drafted between 2002-2006, 9 of them are starting goaltenders in the league and 7 of them have some sort of NHL honors (All Star, Vezina, Stanley Cup, Conn Smythe). Only 4 of 14 turned out to be busts. Not a bad hit rate.
- tkecanuck341

And how conveniently you completely missed the point about the Oilers needing goaltending now, and not the average time it takes for a tender to become NHL ready. And simply that it is a high risk. Of the goalies you listed how many of them were bona-fide studs the year they were drafted? Even 2 or 3 years after that?

Wake and bake mother(frank)ers.

And how conveniently you completely missed the point about the Oilers needing goaltending now, and not the average time it takes for a tender to become NHL ready. And simply that it is a high risk. Of the goalies you listed how many of them were bona-fide studs the year they were drafted? Even 2 or 3 years after that?

- leonkennedy

Why do the Oilers need goaltending immediately? Is their window about to close? Is there defense already stacked with quality minute eating veterans and the goalie is the last piece to make them a contender?

Oilers would like to get a goalie who is a bonafide starter now, but it's not really an absolute necessity.

Why do the Oilers need goaltending immediately? Is their window about to close? Is there defense already stacked with quality minute eating veterans and the goalie is the last piece to make them a contender?

Oilers would like to get a goalie who is a bonafide starter now, but it's not really an absolute necessity.
- rangerdanger94

Why do they need goaltending now? oh I don't know, maybe so they can actually start being competitive the whole year?



They really have to start improving and they can't do that with the tending they have now.

Wake and bake mother(frank)ers.
- Shaggy420

I need a good wake-n-bake after seeing that damn clown dad gif last night! Shook me up worse than the Serbian snuff film.

Wake and bake mother(frank)ers.
- Shaggy420

absolutely love your avatar!!!

Wake and bake mother(frank)ers.
- Shaggy420

Rumour floating that EDM is willing to trade #33 for Lack...some Canuck poster at HF who apparently has called signings/trades in the past.
- Nucker101

Ever since Benning came out last week and said Lack will be shopped and the asking price was a Second rounder that has been out there. We discussed it on here even. Benning said again on the radio yesterday that one of Lack or Markstrom will be traded and he really really wants a second rounder since they don't have one right now. So its not rocket science to come up with Lack for 33rd.

I'd prefer giving 57th and David Musil but I'd do the 33rd pick if there is other suitors.