Good morning Leafers

*cracks pint, lights doob *

Good morning Leafers

*cracks pint, lights doob *


- Garnie

Just smoked one too, having some tea instead though. I crushed through my beers yesterday, the weather was perfect out on my deck. Only a lonely single beer remains. Le sigh une.

Yeah, I agree Babcock would do that. He had no problem starting Mrazek over Howard in the playoffs this year.
I also agree with that view. Hope it happens. I just trying to pander to the "Tank Nation" crowd.
- NANO_23x19

Tanking is over. With the top 3 picks being lotteried off, the whole notion just isn't the same as it was.

Now, it's best to hope for a competitive team and one that will play the youth and hopefully they pan out. Keep your picks and keep building through the draft. There is no timetable for any rebuild. You either succeed in building a winner or you don't, and how long a rebuild takes depends on whether those young players you drafted and developed are good enough to win you games. Then you add big name veterans through trade and UFA and giddy up.

That's why I laugh when some here debate how long our rebuild will take. That all depends on whether our Nylanders, Riellys, 4th overall etc become either star or top level players. Does Kadri break out? Can this team play as a team and play both ends. It could take 2 years, could take 5, or it might not take at all. Time will tell, and that's why this draft is so important IMO. High pick, and another bonus late 1st. They need a home run of a pick.

So do I want this team to tank? No. Why? Because it means the guys we have aren't good enough, and the guys we draft will be entering and developing in a losing environment. Not ideal to producing guys with confidence and the taste and understanding of how to win. Also, might I add, here we are with 4th overall and so much talk from fans and media about trading the pick. Why even bother with all that tank talk we endured all season and still talk about today?

Tanking is over. With the top 3 picks being lotteried off, the whole notion just isn't the same as it was.

Now, it's best to hope for a competitive team and one that will play the youth and hopefully they pan out. Keep your picks and keep building through the draft. There is no timetable for any rebuild. You either succeed in building a winner or you don't, and how long a rebuild takes depends on whether those young players you drafted and developed are good enough to win you games. Then you add big name veterans through trade and UFA and giddy up.

That's why I laugh when some here debate how long our rebuild will take. That all depends on whether our Nylanders, Riellys, 4th overall etc become either star or top level players. Does Kadri break out? Can this team play as a team and play both ends. It could take 2 years, could take 5, or it might not take at all. Time will tell, and that's why this draft is so important IMO. High pick, and another bonus late 1st. They need a home run of a pick.

So do I want this team to tank? No. Why? Because it means the guys we have aren't good enough, and the guys we draft will be entering and developing in a losing environment. Not ideal to producing guys with confidence and the taste and understanding of how to win.
- systemtool

Bingo. This franchise has been losing for too long, tanking is not an option. Get better at drafting, quit making stupid trades, play the youth and teach what it takes to win. A winning culture is the culture change this team needs.
The leafs have some decent pieces, they arent trading everyone and filling the line up with scrubs.
Thats just foolish to think

Tanking is over. With the top 3 picks being lotteried off, the whole notion just isn't the same as it was.

Now, it's best to hope for a competitive team and one that will play the youth and hopefully they pan out. Keep your picks and keep building through the draft. There is no timetable for any rebuild. You either succeed in building a winner or you don't, and how long a rebuild takes depends on whether those young players you drafted and developed are good enough to win you games. Then you add big name veterans through trade and UFA and giddy up.

That's why I laugh when some here debate how long our rebuild will take. That all depends on whether our Nylanders, Riellys, 4th overall etc become either star or top level players. Does Kadri break out? Can this team play as a team and play both ends. It could take 2 years, could take 5, or it might not take at all. Time will tell, and that's why this draft is so important IMO. High pick, and another bonus late 1st. They need a home run of a pick.

So do I want this team to tank? No. Why? Because it means the guys we have aren't good enough, and the guys we draft will be entering and developing in a losing environment. Not ideal to producing guys with confidence and the taste and understanding of how to win. Also, might I add, here we are with 4th overall and so much talk from fans and media about trading the pick. Why even bother with all that tank talk we endured all season and still talk about today?
- systemtool

Sunday morning toke makes you wise. Hopefully, Hunter and gang find the right guys and BAbcock helps them develop and learn how to win.

Just smoked one too, having some tea instead though. I crushed through my beers yesterday, the weather was perfect out on my deck. Only a lonely single beer remains. Le sigh une.
- systemtool

Beer store will be open soon

Tea

Just smoked one too, having some tea instead though. I crushed through my beers yesterday, the weather was perfect out on my deck. Only a lonely single beer remains. Le sigh une.
- systemtool

Just blazed a hasher myself !! Morning LeafLand

Good morning Leafers

*cracks pint, lights doob *


- Garnie

Drugs are bad. Mmmkay

Tanking is over. With the top 3 picks being lotteried off, the whole notion just isn't the same as it was.

Now, it's best to hope for a competitive team and one that will play the youth and hopefully they pan out. Keep your picks and keep building through the draft. There is no timetable for any rebuild. You either succeed in building a winner or you don't, and how long a rebuild takes depends on whether those young players you drafted and developed are good enough to win you games. Then you add big name veterans through trade and UFA and giddy up.

That's why I laugh when some here debate how long our rebuild will take. That all depends on whether our Nylanders, Riellys, 4th overall etc become either star or top level players. Does Kadri break out? Can this team play as a team and play both ends. It could take 2 years, could take 5, or it might not take at all. Time will tell, and that's why this draft is so important IMO. High pick, and another bonus late 1st. They need a home run of a pick.

So do I want this team to tank? No. Why? Because it means the guys we have aren't good enough, and the guys we draft will be entering and developing in a losing environment. Not ideal to producing guys with confidence and the taste and understanding of how to win. Also, might I add, here we are with 4th overall and so much talk from fans and media about trading the pick. Why even bother with all that tank talk we endured all season and still talk about today?
- systemtool

I agree with everything you've said. I want the Leafs to put effort into every game, and make it difficult for the opposing team to win. If the Leafs lose; high draft pick. If they win; establishing a winning culture.
I expect the team to do poorly in the standings for at least 3 years, if it's a little longer, so be it.

Unless Provorov is as good as Hannifin, or Barzal is as good as Marner/Strome in mangement eyes, to justify trading down a couple slots whilst adding draft pick(s). I'll be fine with that.

bozak and kessel for koivu and dumba and 1st

lets call koivu and bozak a wash

so its kessel for dumba and 20th overall?

im not satisfied yet. although not bad

would like the pick to be a little higher.. and another piece added.
- Lee Denault

Ummmm. Let's not

Tanking is over. With the top 3 picks being lotteried off, the whole notion just isn't the same as it was.

Now, it's best to hope for a competitive team and one that will play the youth and hopefully they pan out. Keep your picks and keep building through the draft. There is no timetable for any rebuild. You either succeed in building a winner or you don't, and how long a rebuild takes depends on whether those young players you drafted and developed are good enough to win you games. Then you add big name veterans through trade and UFA and giddy up.

That's why I laugh when some here debate how long our rebuild will take. That all depends on whether our Nylanders, Riellys, 4th overall etc become either star or top level players. Does Kadri break out? Can this team play as a team and play both ends. It could take 2 years, could take 5, or it might not take at all. Time will tell, and that's why this draft is so important IMO. High pick, and another bonus late 1st. They need a home run of a pick.

So do I want this team to tank? No. Why? Because it means the guys we have aren't good enough, and the guys we draft will be entering and developing in a losing environment. Not ideal to producing guys with confidence and the taste and understanding of how to win. Also, might I add, here we are with 4th overall and so much talk from fans and media about trading the pick. Why even bother with all that tank talk we endured all season and still talk about today?
- systemtool

This. It makes me laugh when people are talking about trading down. This is the highest we've picked in 25 years and people wanna pick lower. Ha. To be fair, they are the same people who hate Kessel and Phaneuf's contract, but would like to trade for Richards and Semin.

Tanking is over. With the top 3 picks being lotteried off, the whole notion just isn't the same as it was.

Now, it's best to hope for a competitive team and one that will play the youth and hopefully they pan out. Keep your picks and keep building through the draft. There is no timetable for any rebuild. You either succeed in building a winner or you don't, and how long a rebuild takes depends on whether those young players you drafted and developed are good enough to win you games. Then you add big name veterans through trade and UFA and giddy up.

That's why I laugh when some here debate how long our rebuild will take. That all depends on whether our Nylanders, Riellys, 4th overall etc become either star or top level players. Does Kadri break out? Can this team play as a team and play both ends. It could take 2 years, could take 5, or it might not take at all. Time will tell, and that's why this draft is so important IMO. High pick, and another bonus late 1st. They need a home run of a pick.

So do I want this team to tank? No. Why? Because it means the guys we have aren't good enough, and the guys we draft will be entering and developing in a losing environment. Not ideal to producing guys with confidence and the taste and understanding of how to win. Also, might I add, here we are with 4th overall and so much talk from fans and media about trading the pick. Why even bother with all that tank talk we endured all season and still talk about today?
- systemtool

Agreed. Put it this way, if you have some of your young guys playing, like Rielly, Kadri, for the sake of argument Nylander, Brown, Percy, whoever...you do want to see some signs of life from them. If they are absolutely dead last, and lifeless, that's a little concerning. They shoudn't trade for vets or add big UFAs to try to climb the standings, but still, you want to see some competitiveness with what you have.

Agreed. Put it this way, if you have some of your young guys playing, like Rielly, Kadri, for the sake of argument Nylander, Brown, Percy, whoever...you do want to see some signs of life from them. If they are absolutely dead last, and lifeless, that's a little concerning. They shoudn't trade for vets or add big UFAs to try to climb the standings, but still, you want to see some competitiveness with what you have.
- Zezel

Goon Tank! Lets show character and give the fans a show, while finishing near the bottom. Lets ace the defenseman Mathews, out of the 2016 draft, and then hit the excellerator, a year from now.

Goon Tank! Lets show character and give the fans a show, while finishing near the bottom. Lets ace the defenseman Mathews, out of the 2016 draft, and then hit the excellerator, a year from now.
- PrinceLH

Goon Tank! Lets show character and give the fans a show, while finishing near the bottom. Lets ace the defenseman Mathews, out of the 2016 draft, and then hit the excellerator, a year from now.
- PrinceLH

Isn't Mathews a Center?

Goon Tank! Lets show character and give the fans a show, while finishing near the bottom. Lets ace the defenseman Mathews, out of the 2016 draft, and then hit the excellerator, a year from now.
- PrinceLH

Hopefully that's where Babcock succeeds in making it a hard team to play against even if they don't have the horses yet or guys haven't developed. I'd be okay with them drafting a little higher if they showed a lot of spark, than have them finish last because they absolutely sucked poop.

Isn't Mathews a Center?
- Jeropotato

Who is the player that's from Arizona? Mathews?

Who is the player that's from Arizona? Mathews?
- PrinceLH

That's him.,Austin Mathews. Center.

Isn't Mathews a Center?
- Jeropotato

I stand corrected!

That's him.,Austin Mathews. Center.
- Jeropotato

His name is Auston.


AusTON OF FUN!

Hopefully that's where Babcock succeeds in making it a hard team to play against even if they don't have the horses yet or guys haven't developed. I'd be okay with them drafting a little higher if they showed a lot of spark, than have them finish last because they absolutely sucked poop.
- Zezel

I meant, drafting a little lower.

I stand corrected!
- PrinceLH

Maybe we do take a defenseman this year, if this guy comes available, a year from now.....fear not, Uncle Gary will ensure that he lands in the desert at all costs.

Maybe we do take a defenseman this year, if this guy comes available, a year from now.....fear not, Uncle Gary will ensure that he lands in the desert at all costs.
- PrinceLH

When is the entry draft this year?

Maybe we do take a defenseman this year, if this guy comes available, a year from now.....fear not, Uncle Gary will ensure that he lands in the desert at all costs.
- PrinceLH

Hanifin this year.

Matthews next year.

Raycroft as a FA

Goon Tank! Lets show character and give the fans a show, while finishing near the bottom. Lets ace the defenseman Mathews, out of the 2016 draft, and then hit the excellerator, a year from now.
- PrinceLH

Goon = character?