i was hoping to get some clarity here

there have been several mutual terminations, the details of most probably to boring to report on. But Brunner, kostitsyn, sykora all seemed to refuse assignment to the AHL - causing a breach in contract.

A player breach of his contract seems to be the key event needed to allow for a mutual termination. I've haven't seen anything on a simple walk away.

I suppose there are other ways to breach a contract, but the sample is pretty limited and the ahl demotion seems like the cleanest route; also allows for the team to control the process.
- Tumbleweed

Basically, how it's been broached is, Hextall refuses to buy Vinny out or retain salary in a trade, which means another year for Vinny as a 4th liner or spare forward. He's repeatedly said he wants to play in a scoring line role and wants out if that won't happen in Philly.

So it's a Mexican standoff between Hextall and Lecavalier. If Vinny wants to play, he's most likely going to need Hextall to change his mind on a buyout or eating salary in trade, or he can go to Hextall and say he wants to terminate the deal. In that case the contract basically gets torn up and he's. UFA.

Normally there's unconditional waivers, but Vinny can block that with his NMC, and then he's free, but walking away from $8.5mm over the next few years.

refusing assignment is not mutual termination. this does not apply to the vinny situtation
- jmdodgeser4

agreed, the way i understand it is refusing assignment is a breach of contract. Upon a breach of contract, the team and player may opt to mutually terminate.

Agreed it doesn't apply to Vinny; re: NMC.

Do you see a possibility for a mutual termination with Vinny?

If Vinny terminated contract
Would you trade 7th and MacDonald for Kessel

I would

I'd be happy if the Flyers drafted him. I see in the TSN1260 mock draft, Anthony Mingioni drafted Provorov for the Flyers. With how things fell in that one (McEichel, Strome, Marner, Hanifin, Zacha), I'd be very torn between Provorov and Barzal. Wouldn't be upset with Rantanen either. Can't really complain about picking 7th this year, plenty of solid players should be there.
- five4fighting10

There's 10-12 guys I'd be happy withat 7. I'd even be fine with the dreaded Lawson Crouse

Basically, how it's been broached is, Hextall refuses to buy Vinny out or retain salary in a trade, which means another year for Vinny as a 4th liner or spare forward. He's repeatedly said he wants to play in a scoring line role and wants out if that won't happen in Philly.

So it's a Mexican standoff between Hextall and Lecavalier. If Vinny wants to play, he's most likely going to need Hextall to change his mind on a buyout or eating salary in trade, or he can go to Hextall and say he wants to terminate the deal. In that case the contract basically gets torn up and he's. UFA.

Normally there's unconditional waivers, but Vinny can block that with his NMC, and then he's free, but walking away from $8.5mm over the next few years.
- Jsaquella

thanks

If Vinny terminated contract
Would you trade 7th and MacDonald for Kessel

I would
- Winning

leafs would probably have to throw in the #4 overall to make that work

There's 10-12 guys I'd be happy withat 7. I'd even be fine with the dreaded Lawson Crouse
- Jsaquella

At first I wasn't a fan, but he's definitely grown on me especially when you take into account his birthday and the role he played both in juniors and at the WJC.

leafs would probably have to throw in the #4 overall to make that work
- Tumbleweed

- Winning

i don't know if it's a pipe dream, but in seriousness I'd be hoping for #7, one of the Flyers better d-propects and AMAC for Kessel.

i don't know if it's a pipe dream, but in seriousness I'd be hoping for #7, one of the Flyers better d-propects and AMAC for Kessel.
- Tumbleweed

At first I wasn't a fan, but he's definitely grown on me especially when you take into account his birthday and the role he played both in juniors and at the WJC.
- five4fighting10

this opened my eyes up:

http://www.broadstreethoc...ing-report-nhl-draft-2015


A bit of a risky pick, but i see him as a good pick somewhere in the 6-11 range.

i don't know if it's a pipe dream, but in seriousness I'd be hoping for #7, one of the Flyers better d-propects and AMAC for Kessel.
- Tumbleweed

I wouldn't trade a prospect

agreed, the way i understand it is refusing assignment is a breach of contract. Upon a breach of contract, the team and player may opt to mutually terminate.

Agreed it doesn't apply to Vinny; re: NMC.

Do you see a possibility for a mutual termination with Vinny?
- Tumbleweed

yah i think so. vinny has said he is not happy here

If Vinny terminated contract
Would you trade 7th and MacDonald for Kessel

I would
- Winning

your joking,right?

i don't know if it's a pipe dream, but in seriousness I'd be hoping for #7, one of the Flyers better d-propects and AMAC for Kessel.
- Tumbleweed

for kessel? Be lucky to get a mid prospect and mid pick for him

your joking,right?
- jmdodgeser4

why

why
- Winning

you really would trade our number 7 for kessel?

you really would trade our number 7 for kessel?
- jmdodgeser4

27 year old who can score 30 goals yes

why
- Winning

We can get a young star on the rise..not a over priced and long contract premadonna

27 year old who can score 30 goals yes
- Winning

The most i would give up is a 3rd round pick for him. Completly not worth it

- KINGKENZO

for kessel? Be lucky to get a mid prospect and mid pick for him
- jmdodgeser4

I think think they get a package of quantity, similar to what nash brought back for columbus.

if the leafs take back a poopty contract, i'd expect an increase in the quality of the pieces coming back.

I think think they get a package of quantity, similar to what nash brought back for columbus.

if the leafs take back a poopty contract, i'd expect an increase in the quality of the pieces coming back.
- Tumbleweed

cant even compair nash to kessel. Nash would be the higher of the two. Id take him over kessel asny day of the week and twice on sunday.

So you're saying we should take Zacha.
- hereticpride

Up for consideration

There's 10-12 guys I'd be happy withat 7. I'd even be fine with the dreaded Lawson Crouse
- Jsaquella

Dreaded?