I find your LACK of sarcasm disturbing.
- oranje_blue91

Sadly I watch a lot of Canuck games due to the region I live in, Lack is gonna be a stud. If we can get him from Canucks, it would be awesome. I don't see it happening though. Benning and Linden know that trading Miller would be better, but a very difficult move with his age, and contract.

Scratch Gibson from your list. He's the future #1A in Anaheim, and a potential Vezina contender. Andersen is just keeping the chair warm for him until he's ready.
- hardenx

Leave it to a Ducks fan to be a genius. With UFA Beuchiman on his way out that leaves Ana with more than a few holes to fill and not a ton of Cap space to do it. they did great this year but they have no real need for Gibson. Not long term. I do think they will ask a ton for him during the summer but he will be traded at the deadline if he doesn't want to extend for under 3.5 mil/year. Stupid to trade him at this point unless it is for a few assets or a strong dman. Gibson has tons of value right now as his cap hit is basically the league min. Still he loses value after this summer unless they can extend him. He is not the typical rental goalie so they would be looking to trade him for a team with an amazing player not making the playoffs. Not great odds.

Sadly I watch a lot of Canuck games due to the region I live in, Lack is gonna be a stud. If we can get him from Canucks, it would be awesome. I don't see it happening though. Benning and Linden know that trading Miller would be better, but a very difficult move with his age, and contract.
- Surrey-Oiler

Lack may or may not turn out to be an NHL starter. Truthfully he has 4 stud dmen in front of him right now. Scrivens would look like a starter if Edm had Hamhuis, Bieksa, Edler and Tinev. If we are able to trade with a division rival, then we should be looking at their d since most of their salary goes to them and they are in a good place to add some young depth with Horvat emerging.

I would rather gamble with Talbot, Jones, Elliot... if we are looking to add a player that has only few periods of starting time under their belt. Elliot might have the largest payoff but he is the biggest gamble. His SO numbers are silly good even when you consider the team he is on.

Bernier is only 24 or 25 years old and has a lot of upside...It would cost at least 1st round and 2nd second next year! He was also draft it in first around and Leafs gave a lot for him.
- jimboscore1

Lol, okay! I'll give you the equivalent of what you gave up for him; Scrivens, Pitlick, and a 2nd

Bernier is only 24 or 25 years old and has a lot of upside...It would cost at least 1st round and 2nd second next year! He was also draft it in first around and Leafs gave a lot for him.
- jimboscore1

16th pick in a deep draft for a goalie the Leafs aren't even happy with isn't happening.

16th pick in a deep draft for a goalie the Leafs aren't even happy with isn't happening.
- Matt_Henderson

How about nikitin straight up for him? helps both teams. Improves oilers goaltending and gives Toronto a better shot at Mathews next year.

16th pick in a deep draft for a goalie the Leafs aren't even happy with isn't happening.
- Matt_Henderson

I could see the Oilers do something that adds Dion and Bernier for the 16th +. Toronto might be one of the few teams willing to part with a dman that might be even arguably a top 2 guy.

Personally I say we offer sheet Holtby. We don't need the picks if they let us have him. Offer him up to 6.7 per year and Oilers lose their first three picks next year. Washington will most likely match it but still worth a try. The Oilers are in a good spot to go next year with only late picks in exchange for a young proven starter. However if Petry is worth 5.5 mil then Holtby is worth 36 mil/yr.

Eddie Lack for Leo Draisaitl... straight up. you need a goalchie, we need a centre...

Eddie Lack for Leo Draisaitl... straight up. you need a goalchie, we need a centre...
- kaptaan

Not. Even. Close.

I dont see a way around it he almost made it last year in his first camp... Not saying I dont agree more seasoning would benefit but I think he is too good for who he will compete against on the Oilers roster not to be selected.
- saskoil21

Yes. that's a problem.

Leave it to a Ducks fan to be a genius. With UFA Beuchiman on his way out that leaves Ana with more than a few holes to fill and not a ton of Cap space to do it. they did great this year but they have no real need for Gibson. Not long term. I do think they will ask a ton for him during the summer but he will be traded at the deadline if he doesn't want to extend for under 3.5 mil/year. Stupid to trade him at this point unless it is for a few assets or a strong dman. Gibson has tons of value right now as his cap hit is basically the league min. Still he loses value after this summer unless they can extend him. He is not the typical rental goalie so they would be looking to trade him for a team with an amazing player not making the playoffs. Not great odds.
- Hall Fan

At least KNOW about the team you're commenting on. Beauch is 35 and easily replaceable on our D. Wizniewski is sitting on the bench. He can easily play bottom 3, but my guess he's traded. Beleskey is UFA and probably gone. We have about 17-20 million in cap space. Silfverberg and Etem RFA. Thomas Fleischmann UFA. That's it. Not a ton of cap space??? Gibson and Andersen are RFA after next season. I don't think Gibson is going anywhere, but time will tell. Andersen 25 and made 1.1 million this year. Gibson at 21 isn't getting 3+ million. Probably no more than 1.5 at the most. We have a ton of RFA contracts next year, so look for a # of signings this summer.

Eddie Lack for Leo Draisaitl... straight up. you need a goalchie, we need a centre...
- kaptaan

You are right. We do need a goalie. We just need one that isn't a career backup. I wouldn't trade Leon for Miller and Lack.

Yeah for sure Bernier...Maybe 16th pick, 2nd next year?
- jimboscore1

You're not getting a 1st for Bernier. The most the Oilers should offer is the 33rd. Sorry, Jabroni.

At least KNOW about the team you're commenting on. Beauch is 35 and easily replaceable on our D. Wizniewski is sitting on the bench. He can easily play bottom 3, but my guess he's traded. Beleskey is UFA and probably gone. We have about 17-20 million in cap space. Silfverberg and Etem RFA. Thomas Fleischmann UFA. That's it. Not a ton of cap space??? Gibson and Andersen are RFA after next season. I don't think Gibson is going anywhere, but time will tell. Andersen 25 and made 1.1 million this year. Gibson at 21 isn't getting 3+ million. Probably no more than 1.5 at the most. We have a ton of RFA contracts next year, so look for a # of signings this summer.
- quackup

I don't see how having a ton to shell out next year makes it a spending spree this year.

Beauch is replacable. That is the point. He is still someone that DOES need to be replaced and I am thinking that D is where ANA is looking to improve. If you are thinking that an RFA (Anderson) that took the Ducks to the Conference finals is getting a contract under 4.5 mil per year you are crazy. With NHL prices on the rise, I would be surprised if he didn't just earn himself over 6 mil.

Few NHL backups get 1.5 mil per season. I don't care what he made before. That has little bearing on what he is worth next summer. No way he goes to arbitration and gets under 3 mil. You want a great young 1A and 1B goalie tandem then you need to come to terms that young 1A goalies (as you stated he is) don't sign for less than every other back up did last year. If he is 1A you have two goalies over 5 mil. Good news is that the cap is moving up to accommodate this increase. Bad news is that if your team does this they will be relying on their goalies to make up for a lack of decent dmen.

I am not saying that he should be traded. I am just saying what he is worth and when his value is highest.

Would be nervous with Lehner and his concussion history. Would like Niemi.
- haymac

Niemi is a gamble as well. Granted a gamble that the head coach knows and one that has a stanley cup ring in which he was the starter. I think the Oilers could take that gamble if they add to their d. Problem is that you can't expect to make the playoffs with shabby D and an average goalie. One or the other needs to be addressed. Niemi as a UFA might be the most practical choice since he costs nothing. I would give him a 1 year and pay the extra for it so we are not stuck with him if he sucks. The Oilers will be a whole different team this year but their goal is to make the first round of the playoffs I am guessing. Not to go far. Not yet.

Eddie Lack for Leo Draisaitl... straight up. you need a goalchie, we need a centre...
- kaptaan

Are franking kidding me ?! Throw in Horvat, then ya the conversation will start son.

Would be nervous with Lehner and his concussion history. Would like Niemi.
- haymac

I wouldn't worry about Lehner's health tbh. It's his mental health
and more importantly, it sounds like the Oilers need a stable #1 that will provide a backbone; a proven vet that can steal a game or two. In that case it's Anderson and the price would be that PIT pick OR the 33rd + 16th for andy and 18th, but I doubt even that. Sens have tons of players + prospects in the top 6 category. Ottawa needs a top line winger. Unless the real Bobby Ryan stands up.

I'm ok with the Oilers going after any one of these goalies as long as it doesnt cost more than a 2nd round pick and a mid level prospect..or bottom six roster player.

Otherwise (more likely) just grab a decent UFA goalie at under 5 mill per for a few and keeping drafting/developing or trade another time.
Meanwhile Brossoit had a very impressive NHL debut and put up very solid AHL numbers this year and is of Gibson age.
he will be good.
- oilers2k10

Ya I like that train of thought. I've said it many times, the ceiling on Lehner, you don't get higher than that. His problem, aside from the obvious health and opportunity (taking advantage of) his temper is something that he needs to learn how to control or use to make his focus that much stronger. But being 21-23, he's only scratched the surface.

Get all the goalies you want but if you want a #1, Niemi, Anderson, and Talbot (not a sure thing) would be at the top of the list it looks like

Are franking kidding me ?! Throw in Horvat, then ya the conversation will start son.
- Surrey-Oiler

He's floated that crap trade before.....I say we counter with Scrivens for Horvat.

Are franking kidding me ?! Throw in Horvat, then ya the conversation will start son.
- Surrey-Oiler

someone offers lack for draisitl no body panics.... I make a good trade.. some people LOOSE THEIR MINDS...

It's true though - keep all those big 6 pieces up front.

I wouldn't worry about Lehner's health tbh. It's his mental health
and more importantly, it sounds like the Oilers need a stable #1 that will provide a backbone; a proven vet that can steal a game or two. In that case it's Anderson and the price would be that PIT pick OR the 33rd + 16th for andy and 18th, but I doubt even that. Sens have tons of players + prospects in the top 6 category. Ottawa needs a top line winger. Unless the real Bobby Ryan stands up.


Ya I like that train of thought. I've said it many times, the ceiling on Lehner, you don't get higher than that. His problem, aside from the obvious health and opportunity (taking advantage of) his temper is something that he needs to learn how to control or use to make his focus that much stronger. But being 21-23, he's only scratched the surface.

Get all the goalies you want but if you want a #1, Niemi, Anderson, and Talbot (not a sure thing) would be at the top of the list it looks like
- AlfieisKing

There are plenty of unproven goalies with a higher ceiling than Lehner....where do you come up with this horse poop?

There are plenty of unproven goalies with a higher ceiling than Lehner....where do you come up with this horse poop?
- Jeropotato

I think that's purely a matter of opinion.

Lehner's goalie coach was Henrik Lundqvuist's father. Their technique originally was thought to be very similar. As he's matured the resemblance - according to scouts (from sens and other articles on him) - was similar to Raask, who also was very competitive and struggled as a back up.

As far as unproved (as #1) goalies, the list is very small imo. Gibson, Allen, Vasilevskiy, Subban up there, beyond that I'll keep Lehner. All behind in dev too...Lehner's heaalth notwithstanding

I think that's purely a matter of opinion.

Lehner's goalie coach was Henrik Lundqvuist's father. Their technique originally was thought to be very similar. As he's matured the resemblance - according to scouts (from sens and other articles on him) - was similar to Raask, who also was very competitive and struggled as a back up.

As far as unproved (as #1) goalies, the list is very small imo. Gibson, Allen, Vasilevskiy, Subban up there, beyond that I'll keep Lehner. All behind in dev too...Lehner's heaalth notwithstanding
- AlfieisKing

I dont really care what the you think you will get for Lehner in the end the oilers will trade the 33rd and something for a goalie, and trade the 16th and something for a dmen, then sign one of Oduya, Martan, Beauchemin. After all that, every oilers fan, will feel like they won the lotto, and everyone else will be cheering against us for the next 10 years. That is all that needs to be said.

someone offers lack for draisitl no body panics.... I make a good trade.. some people LOOSE THEIR MINDS...

It's true though - keep all those big 6 pieces up front.
- AlfieisKing

He posted it late at night. Most people are asleep and everyone who did comment on it, shot if down SUPER quick.

He also doesn't regularly post around 20-30 posts every thread about how all his deals are fair value.

Buried in minors or he will be on LTIR most of the year
- Iggysbff

Even if they bury him in the minors only 900K comes off the books, better off to try and trade him to a team looking to get to the cap floor.

2 time Cup winner (after this year) Crawford for Draisitl....