right now?

probably #1

when nurse matures, probably #2
- sensarmy_11

I can possibly see that happen.
If Chicago is planning to keep the core intact, I can realistically see us prying away Hjal for a cheap price.

I can possibly see that happen.
If Chicago is planning to keep the core intact, I can realistically see us prying away Hjal for a cheap price.
- EdmHockeyMan

and at 16, they could take a really good dman in Zboril, that would help weather the storm of giving up Hjal

and at 16, they could take a really good dman in Zboril, that would help weather the storm of giving up Hjal
- DDM-Coga

So you are suggesting trading our 16th for Hjal? Straightup?
That might be quite interesting, and this ties into what you said earlier where we give up a pick/prospect to Chicago for an established player.

Great suggestion.

Yeah. Ah well, guess our best options at getting a Top 2 defender lay in Chara, Jaybo, or Buff.
- EdmHockeyMan

Chara doesn't have much left in him. I wouldn't give up much for 2 years of his declining services.

If I was Chia I'd get Boston to deal Chara for cheap so they have cap to sign Dougie before someone (Philly) offer sheets him.

I can possibly see that happen.
If Chicago is planning to keep the core intact, I can realistically see us prying away Hjal for a cheap price.
- EdmHockeyMan

hjalmarsson won't be cheap man.........he's still a very very good dman.

Chara doesn't have much left in him. I wouldn't give up much for 2 years of his declining services.

If I was Chia I'd get Boston to deal Chara for cheap so they have cap to sign Dougie before someone (Philly) offer sheets him.
- Iggysbff

I was thinking that too. Boston stil lhas to sign their main defenders. If we can get Chara for cheap, like a 2nd Rounder and 3rd, a deal can get done, but if Boston wants a prospect, I cannot see a deal happening.

So you are suggesting trading our 16th for Hjal? Straightup?
That might be quite interesting, and this ties into what you said earlier where we give up a pick/prospect to Chicago for an established player.

Great suggestion.
- EdmHockeyMan

i can't see the hawks, who are obviously in a win now mentality, trading their 3rd best d-man (who's signed to an excellent contract) for a draft pick.

won't happen.

i know that they have lots of players that the oilers would covet (or any team for that matter, that's why they're so good), but i don't see the hawks and the oilers as good trading partners.

So you are suggesting trading our 16th for Hjal? Straightup?
That might be quite interesting, and this ties into what you said earlier where we give up a pick/prospect to Chicago for an established player.

Great suggestion.
- EdmHockeyMan

depends on how much they value a player at 16, so that sort of trade would only be done once 15 comes off the board.

Might need to add to the 16th since Hjalmarsson is signed for 4 more years at a great contract. 16th and Marincin would probably have to be the starting price

I can possibly see that happen.
If Chicago is planning to keep the core intact, I can realistically see us prying away Hjal for a cheap price.
- EdmHockeyMan

Again, not to shatter dreams but the Hawks love Hjal. He's likely behind the other 4 on the do not trade list. He's not a number one on our team. He's an ideal #3 and he's in a perfect spot on the Hawks. He's a shutdown beast.

And I still think Klef is a legit top pair guy. Give him a real top pair partner on the right side and watch him flourish.

Again, not to shatter dreams but the Hawks love Hjal. He's likely behind the other 4 on the do not trade list. He's not a number one on our team. He's an ideal #3 and he's in a perfect spot on the Hawks. He's a shutdown beast.

And I still think Klef is a legit top pair guy. Give him a real top pair partner on the right side and watch him flourish.
- Iggysbff

HJ would be a very last resort sort of move for them or if someone really over pays for him. I dont think he is untouchable, but pretty close, but if the offer that they cant turn down comes along, I see them biting on it

hjalmarsson won't be cheap man.........he's still a very very good dman.
- sensarmy_11

Don't forget that Chicago wants to keep the core intact.
If you were in the GM's shoe's, don't you want to keep Seabrook + Keith together in the long run?

Just called taking advantage of a team in cap space trouble.

However, I can see our 16th for Hjal done straight up if the terms are right.
We mgiht need to add Marincin in there too.
Don't forget that this is a really deep draft year and there are some good defensive options availabe at the 16th pick for Chicago in the future for them to develop.

Don't forget that Chicago wants to keep the core intact.
If you were in the GM's shoe's, don't you want to keep Seabrook + Keith together in the long run?

Just called taking advantage of a team in cap space trouble.

However, I can see our 16th for Hjal done straight up.
Don't forget that this is a really deep draft year and there are some good defensive options availabe at the 16th pick for Chicago in the future for them to develop.
- EdmHockeyMan

he is part of their core. yes, they need cap relief, but you don't get that by trading key players who are on great deals.

you get it by trading the sharp's and bickel's and versteeg's on your team.

on the off chance that the hawks do move him, it won't be for picks, it will be for roster players..........so think packages involving someone like eberle.

Again, not to shatter dreams but the Hawks love Hjal. He's likely behind the other 4 on the do not trade list. He's not a number one on our team. He's an ideal #3 and he's in a perfect spot on the Hawks. He's a shutdown beast.

And I still think Klef is a legit top pair guy. Give him a real top pair partner on the right side and watch him flourish.
- Iggysbff

I think that too Klefbom is exactly what we need and he is developing exactly how we want him to.

16th + Marincin + 2nd for Hjal?
Do you see Chicago taking that trade?

Don't forget that Chicago wants to keep the core intact.
If you were in the GM's shoe's, don't you want to keep Seabrook + Keith together in the long run?

Just called taking advantage of a team in cap space trouble.

However, I can see our 16th for Hjal done straight up if the terms are right.
We mgiht need to add Marincin in there too.
Don't forget that this is a really deep draft year and there are some good defensive options availabe at the 16th pick for Chicago in the future for them to develop.
- EdmHockeyMan

16 is one of those picks if a guy is sliding, he is hovering around that spot, could really be a tempting spot for teams to trade for depending on their draft boards

he is part of their core. yes, they need cap relief, but you don't get that by trading key players who are on great deals.

you get it by trading the sharp's and bickel's and versteeg's on your team.

on the off chance that the hawks do move him, it won't be for picks, it will be for roster players..........so think packages involving someone like eberle.
- sensarmy_11

I really don't think Eberle would be involved in this trade.
Short term, the blackhawks have all of the assets needed; it is their long term that they might want to focus on.

Hjal for 2nd + 16th + Marincin?
I think that might be as close as we get to a deal, maybe add a late ronuder as a sweetener?

I think that too Klefbom is exactly what we need and he is developing exactly how we want him to.

16th + Marincin + 2nd for Hjal?
Do you see Chicago taking that trade?
- EdmHockeyMan

Nope. I dont. Hjal is a non starter for them I think. He's a beast and signed to a great deal.

Nope. I dont. Hjal is a non starter for them I think. He's a beast and signed to a great deal.
- Iggysbff

Hjal for 16th + Fayne?
I'm just bringing up ideas here.

Fayne is a good Top 6 defender, proven, a shutdown guy, can get the job done.

I really don't think Eberle would be involved in this trade.
Short term, the caps have all of the assets needed; it is their long term that they might want to focus on.

Hjal for 2nd + 16th + Marincin?
I think that might be as close as we get to a deal, maybe add a late ronuder as a sweetener?
- EdmHockeyMan

i get what you're saying, but i just don't think these teams make good trading partners.

the hawks arent' going to trade a key part of their NHL roster (one which is a cup contender every year) for picks and prospects. if they do move a key piece, it will be for NHL ready talent.

i think if the oilers want to make a big move on D, they'll likely have to talk to teams who might be seeing their windows closign soon..........maybe look at a guy like edler, letang, goligoski, etc.

i get what you're saying, but i just don't think these teams make good trading partners.

the hawks arent' going to trade a key part of their NHL roster (one which is a cup contender every year) for picks and prospects. if they do move a key piece, it will be for NHL ready talent.

i think if the oilers want to make a big move on D, they'll likely have to talk to teams who might be seeing their windows closign soon..........maybe look at a guy like edler, letang, goligoski, etc.
- sensarmy_11

Yeah, I think I am beginning to realize that too.

Hjal for 16th + Fayne?
I'm just bringing up ideas here.

Fayne is a good Top 6 defender, proven, a shutdown guy, can get the job done.
- EdmHockeyMan

I think the more we talk about it, the more we are realizing that a fair deal for Hjal isnt going to get this done. He has a good cap hit, you would have to really overspend to get him away from the Hawks.

Like Draisaitl level over payment

Yeah, I think I am beginning to realize that too.
- EdmHockeyMan

i think the package you're offering is fair for hjalmarsson, i just don't think it's the "right package" considering where chicago is right now.

I think the more we talk about it, the more we are realizing that a fair deal for Hjal isnt going to get this done. He has a good cap hit, you would have to really overspend to get him away from the Hawks.

Like Draisaitl level over payment
- DDM-Coga

True.
As stated earlier, guess our best options are Jaybo, Chara, and Buff.

i get what you're saying, but i just don't think these teams make good trading partners.

the hawks arent' going to trade a key part of their NHL roster (one which is a cup contender every year) for picks and prospects. if they do move a key piece, it will be for NHL ready talent.

i think if the oilers want to make a big move on D, they'll likely have to talk to teams who might be seeing their windows closign soon..........maybe look at a guy like edler, letang, goligoski, etc.
- sensarmy_11

Right handers only.

True.
As stated earlier, guess our best options are Jaybo, Chara, and Buff.
- EdmHockeyMan

Jaybo wouldnt be terrible, at least he can skate still. Buff might cost too much and Chara would be a cap hit nightmare.

If the Blues are looking to shuffle the deck, getting JayBo might be a good safe target

i think the package you're offering is fair for hjalmarsson, i just don't think it's the "right package" considering where chicago is right now.
- sensarmy_11

I understand what you mean, especially in the position where Chicago is.
If they win the Cup this year, I can almsot guarantee that the changes to the roster are going to be small and only focused on getting rid of any depth they don't need.