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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
Already read your mind......Seabrook?
- EdmHockeyMan


Chicago will not be getting rid of Seabrook. They have a dozen other guys they will get rid of first. He's close to untouchable.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
No one is giving up a young top two right hand defender.
- Iggysbff









edit - dammit, i just noticed the "right hand" clause
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 5 @ 2:07 PM ET
I'd be fine giving up those assets for those two players. I would just want an agreement on a contract extension in place prior to the trade occurring so we get more than just the one year of both those players.
- ChetManly


I wonder if that can be in the terms of the deal?
They both have to sign an extension.
Buff 5.5mill per for 3 years
Seabrook 6mill per for 3 years

Seabrook (TWD) - Schultz (OFD)
Buff (TWD) - Klefbom (TWD)
Fayne (DFD) - Ference (DFD)

That would shift our defence from mediocre to amazing.
Plus, we can split Buff and Seabrook up to provide us with a balance in defence and if we need em to together to form a true TOP2 pairing we can.

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:08 PM ET
Chicago will not be getting rid of Seabrook. They have a dozen other guys they will get rid of first. He's close to untouchable.
- Iggysbff


I agree, they would sacrifice other players before him. Sharp, Bickell, even Crawford before him
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:09 PM ET
I heard a rumour that Seabrook would waive to play in Edmonton but he would want a max contract if he were to do so. Just a rumour but I like to dream.
- Dangles13

Yeah his agent is using that as a negotiating ploy. He said there are other places he would play but anyone outside of Chicago would need a max term deal at 7-8 per.

That's crazy.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:10 PM ET






edit - dammit, i just noticed the "right hand" clause

- sensarmy_11


I said top two not bottom pair
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
I said top two not bottom pair
- Iggysbff


he's top 2..........in the press box
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
I wonder if that can be in the terms of the deal?
They both have to sign an extension.
Buff 5.5mill per for 3 years
Seabrook 6mill per for 3 years

Seabrook (TWD) - Schultz (OFD)
Buff (TWD) - Klefbom (TWD)
Fayne (DFD) - Ference (DFD)

That would shift our defence from mediocre to amazing.
Plus, we can split Buff and Seabrook up to provide us with a balance in defence and if we need em to together to form a true TOP2 pairing we can.

- EdmHockeyMan


Wake up....you're talking in your sleep...

And Seabrook would be a right side guy with Klef.
Buff right side with Nurse
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:12 PM ET
I agree, they would sacrifice other players before him. Sharp, Bickell, even Crawford before him
- DDM-Coga


they'll likely sacrifice anyone not named toews, kane, or keith before him........including hossa, teurvo, saad, hjalmarsson, etc.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:13 PM ET
they'll likely sacrifice anyone not named toews, kane, or keith before him........including hossa, teurvo, saad, hjalmarsson, etc.
- sensarmy_11

Yup. I think he's #4 on their do not trade list.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
Chicago will not be getting rid of Seabrook. They have a dozen other guys they will get rid of first. He's close to untouchable.
- Iggysbff


I don't think so.
If they trade Seabrook, that is the best way to be under the cap without trading 4-5 players.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
So in other words you just made this up? Kinda like 94% of what the bloggers and EK does here?
You should get paid to blog that stuff.

- leonkennedy


Shhhh...
H8terade
Joined: 06.20.2014

Jun 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
It was just like the good old days.
- Jeropotato


Show me where it says and. It was either or. Your team would be pretty stupid to hang on to both and not use one of them to shore up their deficiencies. Luckily for you guys stupid walked out the door Chiarelli walked in.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
Wake up....you're talking in your sleep...

And Seabrook would be a right side guy with Klef.
Buff right side with Nurse

- Iggysbff


zzzzzzzzzzzzz........zzzzzzzzzzzzz.....Keith would be a great addition too..........zzzzzzzzzzz

Wait what? Oh, how did I get here.

But yeah, if we can get both of them, I would worship Chia as my new supreme leader (That's right Kim Jong Un, F you) , but like I said, it is a LONG SHOT.

if we do get him, I thikn the only way to truely know who goes with who is experimentation, who knows, maybe it might be Buff and Schultz in a line together.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
Yeah his agent is using that as a negotiating ploy. He said there are other places he would play but anyone outside of Chicago would need a max term deal at 7-8 per.

That's crazy.

- Iggysbff


You guys are ruining my dreams and I don't think that's very nice.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
I don't think so.
If they trade Seabrook, that is the best way to be under the cap without trading 4-5 players.

- EdmHockeyMan


Crawford, Bickell, Sharp all offer the same cap relief or more. They have replacements for the other guys. They have no replacement for Seabrook.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
I don't think so.
If they trade Seabrook, that is the best way to be under the cap without trading 4-5 players.

- EdmHockeyMan


I just don't see him asking for a 7m+ contract to break up he team. I bet he goes max 6m just to stay a hawk
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:20 PM ET
I don't think so.
If they trade Seabrook, that is the best way to be under the cap without trading 4-5 players.

- EdmHockeyMan


teams win multiple cups BECAUSE they don't trade allstar olympians who are signed to excellent contracts..........instead they move other guys (bickell, sharp, hjalmarsson, etc) who make similar money, but don't contribute anywhere close to the same level.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 5 @ 2:21 PM ET
Crawford, Bickell, Sharp all offer the same cap relief or more. They have replacements for the other guys. They have no replacement for Seabrook.
- Iggysbff


I see whatcha mean.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 5 @ 2:22 PM ET
teams win multiple cups BECAUSE they don't trade allstar olympians who are signed to excellent contracts..........instead they move other guys (bickell, sharp, hjalmarsson, etc) who make similar money, but don't contribute anywhere close to the same level.
- sensarmy_11


Hjal......hmmm, not a bad suggestion. What would he be on the Oilers defense... a Top 4?
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 5 @ 2:23 PM ET
I just don't see him asking for a 7m+ contract to break up he team. I bet he goes max 6m just to stay a hawk
- DDM-Coga


Sadly, I see that too. Guess the Seabrook dreams are coming to a halt.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:23 PM ET
I see whatcha mean.
- EdmHockeyMan


And Oduya and Rozsival and Timonen are all but gone. They won't let Seabrook go on top of them.

Sorry
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
Hjal......hmmm, not a bad suggestion. What would he be on the Oilers defense... a Top 4?
- EdmHockeyMan


right now?

probably #1

when nurse matures, probably #2
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Jun 5 @ 2:26 PM ET
And Oduya and Roscival and Timonen are all but gone. They won't let Seabrook go on top of them.

Sorry

- Iggysbff


Yeah. Ah well, guess our best options at getting a Top 2 defender lay in Chara, Jaybo, or Buff.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:26 PM ET
Sadly, I see that too. Guess the Seabrook dreams are coming to a halt.
- EdmHockeyMan


To keep the cups coming, he will take way below what he would get as a UFA just so he can keep playing with Keith, Kane, and Toews.

If the hawks are smart and just reshuffle the deck a bit to be in a better cap sitaution after this summer. They could still have 2 of the Top 5 players in the league today as well as one of the best Top pairings in all of hockey signed long term.

Cant really complain about that.
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