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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Surveying The NHL Landscape – Where Will Phil Kessel Be Traded??
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MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
JVR Malkin Kessel
? Holland Panik
Komarov Bozak Leivo
Booth y z

Rielly Polak
Gardiner Robidas
Brewer Erixon

Bernier
Reimer

Lupul and Phaneuf need to go.
Kadri is gone as well in the trade for Geno.

Need to sign / trade for a 2nd line LW.
And get a few good bottom 6 guys (Goc, Winnik etc.)

No cup fighter, but at least a decent team now while not losing the rebuild (by trading Lupul, Phaneuf, Kadrid for picks and prospects).

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 3-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
It's not the post, it's you showing up here.

Howard misses you, asked that you go into the habs thread.

- LeafMan

bastard
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
I believe that as much as I believe Bruce wants to draft Marner.
- Tee-Dot

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 28 @ 11:03 AM ET


*Fist pump*

- LeafMan


TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

May 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
You misunderstand me. I think Kessel is great and will get a solid return. However, most people forget to factor what the other team is doing/building/their plan when they make trades up.

Sure Kessel is worth #11 but maybe Florida really wants a first round pick in THIS draft and won't do the deal unless one is coming back.

Essentially it's Kessel for the #11 and then #24 for something else from Florida. Maybe the first next year and a 2nd this year. I don't know exactly but it would be a hard sell I think to give up the #11 in "a deep draft".

- Aaron_85


I forget nothing, Jon Snow.

Florida has legit 1-2 centers, Ekblad looks like a stud on D, plus a few others and Luongo holding down the fort between the pipes.

They are ready to contend, IMO.

A fellow named dwoo, who hasn't posted in a while but claimed insider knowledge, said the framework of a trade would be Kessel and Polak for the #11, Gudbranson, Trochek and Boyes for cap purposes.


I happen to love that trade, so I'm holding him to it!
user1
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 05.23.2015

May 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
So the Kane vs Kessel discussion is ended by Crosby is better than Phil
- Canada Cup


Makes perfect sense
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 3-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
Who ever they pick, HAS to pan out, there is no other option with that pick.
- LeafMan

go big or go home, hit for the fence
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
I googled it, they're based out of Dublin.

Also, their logo on the tail looks an awful lot like another Irish company's logo....



- eichiefs9


Having been there a couple of years ago, the Harp is actually pretty much the emblem of the country.
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

May 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
Who ever they pick, HAS to pan out, there is no other option with that pick.
- LeafMan


Strome
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

May 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
so lou on the marner page
bruce on the hanifin page

it may get raw in here

- Lucas Neilson

It's not Hanifin, it's Hanibust. C'mon now Lucas...
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
How was that banworthy?
- Tee-Dot


are you serious?

you called another poster a "twit"



did you really think that was okay?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 3-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
So the Kane vs Kessel discussion is ended by Crosby is better than Phil
- Canada Cup

Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
So the Kane vs Kessel discussion is ended by Crosby is better than Phil
- Canada Cup


No.

Saying Kessel would score a lot more and have way more points playing with another center is BS.

TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

May 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
are you serious?

you called another poster a "twit"



did you really think that was okay?

- Dozzer



Isn't that the proper term for a person who posts on Twitter often?

Surely that's what he meant
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

May 28 @ 11:06 AM ET
Who ever they pick, HAS to pan out, there is no other option with that pick.
- LeafMan


im not worried about that pick at all - wel get someone glorious.

im hoping that 24th pick or whatever it is, will be a dandy and end up being like a top 10 pick.

In Mark Hunter we trust.
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

May 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
are you serious?

you called another poster a "twit"



did you really think that was okay?

- Dozzer

But, but, Howard says it all the time.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

May 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
...and i doubt T.O. is interested in dealing away 1st round picks, theyre trying to get their hands on as many as they possibly can, thats why i wouldnt even be surprised if JVR is moved...
- user1


There is WAY too much value being placed on these first rounders, especially out of the top 5.

30-35 goal guys are worth gold. That is why it is stupid to sell low after a year where the team gave up.

Moving young established assets like JVR for a pimply faced 18 year old or two does not make any sense, unless it's a can't miss like the top 5 picks are supposed to be this year.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Free Wedgie, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
I forget nothing, Jon Snow.

Florida has legit 1-2 centers, Ekblad looks like a stud on D, plus a few others and Luongo holding down the fort between the pipes.

They are ready to contend, IMO.

A fellow named dwoo, who hasn't posted in a while but claimed insider knowledge, said the framework of a trade would be Kessel and Polak for the #11, Gudbranson, Trochek and Boyes for cap purposes.


I happen to love that trade, so I'm holding him to it!

- TheThrill


I'm okay with that trade as well.

When I think about it, they really could do 2 deals but at the same time. So it would be the one above and then #24 for something and a 2nd rounder.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
I forget nothing, Jon Snow.

Florida has legit 1-2 centers, Ekblad looks like a stud on D, plus a few others and Luongo holding down the fort between the pipes.

They are ready to contend, IMO.

A fellow named dwoo, who hasn't posted in a while but claimed insider knowledge, said the framework of a trade would be Kessel and Polak for the #11, Gudbranson, Trochek and Boyes for cap purposes.


I happen to love that trade, so I'm holding him to it!

- TheThrill


They're on the right track for sure, but maybe we should wait until they actually make the playoffs before considering them contenders?

Maybe?

In a couple of years they should be a force, even without Kessel.

Can't see them giving away what will probably be their best pick in a while AND Gudbranson for Kessel....
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
It's not Hanifin, it's Hanibust. C'mon now Lucas...
- Tee-Dot


i believe you are intentionaly trying to goad me into an argument

which is considered disruptive of the thread

which i will ban you for.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

May 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
Isn't that the proper term for a person who posts on Twitter often?

Surely that's what he meant

- TheThrill

The working title for Twitter was actually called, Actually.

True story.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
But, but, Howard says it all the time.
- Tee-Dot


howard iusnt bannable
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
They probably dont HAVE to take back a bad contract/retain salary, but i think the return would be higher if they did, like the Yandle deal. Retaining salary wouldn't be great because of the length of his deal, but taking a bad contract may make a team more likely to part with better pieces (1st rounders and good prospects) if they're in a stage where they think they can make a cup run. Taking a bad contract with 2-3 years left on it wouldn't hurt the leafs cause ideally it would be done by the time they start making progress.
- 13sundin13


Willingness to take salary back opens up more opportunities for trade partners.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

May 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
Strome
- TheThrill


personally im pushing for strome or marner

but hanifin and rielly together in the future doenst sound too shabby either

i just feel we have a decent amount of D prospects, enough that we should be able to improve on the D end in time, where up front we dont have a ton of top 6 talent in the works...nylander and brown are both somewhat small so a bigger strome doesnt sound too shabby at all
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

May 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
They're on the right track for sure, but maybe we should wait until they actually make the playoffs before considering them contenders?

Maybe?

In a couple of years they should be a force, even without Kessel.

- Scabeh



Sorry, I should elaborate.

Contend for the playoffs.

My bad
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