kessel is not underrated. he just plays too one dimensional. it's like PK subban, he can win the norris, lead the D in scoring, but when it comes to winning games for say Team Canada, he won't crack the top 6 when you have 2 way guys like weber, doughty, pietrangelo, keith, etc.

kessel only does one thing - get points. and that one thing comes at a serious cost to your team (defense). I'd gladly take a player who got 60pts and plays a hard 2 way game than a floater who gets 80.

is it kessel's fault? no. he in fact has overacheived in my opinion since we got him for offense and he sure as hell delivered. So this isn't me hating him. But again, if you can't see why he's not exactly the best fit with that deal and his severely one dimensional game, you aren't watching much hockey.
- clark_griswold

thats the problem... it shouldnt be a choice of one or the other... you have Kessel (80 point floater) AND the 60 point Toews or Kopitar or Bergeron.

NO Team can Win with Just Kessel as the only player who is elite.. Not Stamkos or Ovechkin or Kane ...

So all this we need to move him and replace him with a 2 way player instead is ..well silly. You can have Kessel and have one of those other players.

Problem is the leafs havent had one of the other players

first come first serve seat selection




find the fattest guy on the plane and go aisle - window with him.... NO ONE is getting in the middle.
- robin_steele264

first come first serve seat selection




find the fattest guy on the plane and go aisle - window with him.... NO ONE is getting in the middle.
- robin_steele264

You know what they say about "if you can't find the crazy person on the downtown bus, then it's you..."?



Does the same thing apply here?

first come first serve seat selection




find the fattest guy on the plane and go aisle - window with him.... NO ONE is getting in the middle.
- robin_steele264

Aisle seat is the premier plane seat. Window seat is overrated.

for those who are advocating to draft Brandon Carlo at #24:

Better to pick up Andrew Nielsen with the 3rd rounder.

last 5years:

Ovechkin - Stamkos - Perry with more goals.
Then Phil, tied with Nash.

Phil is 14th in goals/game though.
- MaximusAurelius

Perry is 18th on that list..Phil is 9th Kane is 11 th over the last 3 years

Aisle seat is the premier plane seat. Window seat is overrated.
- eichiefs9

Disagree.

I fly across the country 17 times a year and I take window every single time.

Im broad shouldered and everyone walking in the aisle hits me... the stupid cart always rams into me.

Window I can lean against the wall.

Aisle would be good for a LONG LONG flight, so you don't have to make anyone move when you get up.

1 CA Sidney Crosby F 193 79 165 244 109 49
2 RU Alexander Ovechkin F 207 136 80 216 142 -23
3 CA Claude Giroux F 211 66 141 207 104 -3
4 CA Ryan Getzlaf F 198 71 135 206 134 57
5 SE Nicklas Bäckström F 212 44 161 205 114 -7
6 CA John Tavares F 189 90 109 199 104 -3
7 CA Jamie Benn F 204 81 118 199 168 10
8 CA Tyler Seguin F 199 90 103 193 54 38
9 US Phil Kessel F 212 82 111 193 75 -42
10 CZ Jakub Vorácek F 212 67 122 189 135 5
11 US Patrick Kane F 177 79 109 188 40 28
12 CA Jonathan Toews F 204 79 103 182 97 84
13 CA Martin St. Louis F 203 68 113 181 44 25
14 CA Joe Thornton F 208 34 147 181 88 22
15 US Joe Pavelski F 212 94 86 180 71 37
16 SI Anze Kopitar F 208 55 121 176 50 46
17 RU Evgeni Malkin F 160 60 115 175 158 13
18 CA Corey Perry F 192 91 82 173 204 55
19 US Blake Wheeler F 209 73 98 171 164 27
20 CA Steven Stamkos

Aisle seat is the premier plane seat. Window seat is overrated.
- eichiefs9

Premier seat is up front in first class. I got bumped up once on my Manchester-Toronto flight and it was bliss. Free-flowing wine, leg room, lie flat seats... heaven.

I hope that I can leverage my newly-minted title in this fashion

Disagree.

I fly across the country 17 times a year and I take window every single time.

Im broad shouldered and everyone walking in the aisle hits me... the stupid cart always rams into me.

Window I can lean against the wall.

Aisle would be good for a LONG LONG flight, so you don't have to make anyone move when you get up.
- robin_steele264

I like the aisle. Nothing is worse than having to drag your ass across someone's face doing the shuffle to get out when you need the bathroom. You can get up when someone needs to get out and occasionally avoid pressing the annoying call button to get a flight attendant's attention if you need it.

That said, I'd rather watch my parents (frank) than sit in the middle seat.

first come first serve seat selection




find the fattest guy on the plane and go aisle - window with him.... NO ONE is getting in the middle.
- robin_steele264

I hate Canadian North... we're commercial only

1 CA Sidney Crosby F 193 79 165 244 109 49
2 RU Alexander Ovechkin F 207 136 80 216 142 -23
3 CA Claude Giroux F 211 66 141 207 104 -3
4 CA Ryan Getzlaf F 198 71 135 206 134 57
5 SE Nicklas Bäckström F 212 44 161 205 114 -7
6 CA John Tavares F 189 90 109 199 104 -3
7 CA Jamie Benn F 204 81 118 199 168 10
8 CA Tyler Seguin F 199 90 103 193 54 38
9 US Phil Kessel F 212 82 111 193 75 -42
10 CZ Jakub Vorácek F 212 67 122 189 135 5
11 US Patrick Kane F 177 79 109 188 40 28
12 CA Jonathan Toews F 204 79 103 182 97 84
13 CA Martin St. Louis F 203 68 113 181 44 25
14 CA Joe Thornton F 208 34 147 181 88 22
15 US Joe Pavelski F 212 94 86 180 71 37
16 SI Anze Kopitar F 208 55 121 176 50 46
17 RU Evgeni Malkin F 160 60 115 175 158 13
18 CA Corey Perry F 192 91 82 173 204 55
19 US Blake Wheeler F 209 73 98 171 164 27
20 CA Steven Stamkos
- Daddichronic

Thats the last 3 seasons?

Perry is 18th on that list..Phil is 9th Kane is 11 th over the last 3 years
- Daddichronic

No, my list (5y) is correct.
Not sure what you mean by 'Perry is 18th on that list'.

EDIT:

you should read the whole thread before commenting.
We were not discussing points, but goals.

3rd was in goals last 5 seasons. (Perry's Tied 4th in Goals over last 3 seasons)

Disagree.

I fly across the country 17 times a year and I take window every single time.

Im broad shouldered and everyone walking in the aisle hits me... the stupid cart always rams into me.

Window I can lean against the wall.

Aisle would be good for a LONG LONG flight, so you don't have to make anyone move when you get up.
- robin_steele264

This is all true... window is the only option... some of us make a career out of flying across the country every 2 weeks...

Premier seat is up front in first class. I got bumped up once on my Manchester-Toronto flight and it was bliss. Free-flowing wine, leg room, lie flat seats... heaven.

I hope that I can leverage my newly-minted title in this fashion
- lumlums

Some of us get free upgrades on the regular...

I like the aisle. Nothing is worse than having to drag your ass across someone's face doing the shuffle to get out when you need the bathroom. You can get up when someone needs to get out and occasionally avoid pressing the annoying call button to get a flight attendant's attention if you need it.

That said, I'd rather watch my parents (frank) than sit in the middle seat.
- eichiefs9

I never use the can... even on 5+ hour flights.

Ive mastered the art of knocking myself cold with the perfect mix of booze, melatonin, gravol and advil.

timing is key.

drink a (frank)load of booze all day.

stop about 2 hours before you fly.

start pissing.. drink water.. keep pissing.

take handfuls of the pills I mentioned. drink little more water.

pee a few more times.

stumble onto plane, buckle in.. wake up when you land.

done.

I like the aisle. Nothing is worse than having to drag your ass across someone's face doing the shuffle to get out when you need the bathroom. You can get up when someone needs to get out and occasionally avoid pressing the annoying call button to get a flight attendant's attention if you need it.

That said, I'd rather watch my parents (frank) than sit in the middle seat.
- eichiefs9

If I have a middle seat... everyone is gonna have a bad time.

Thats the last 3 seasons?
- user1

Yes

I never use the can... even on 5+ hour flights.

Ive mastered the art of knocking myself cold with the perfect mix of booze, melatonin, gravol and advil.

timing is key.

drink a (frank)load of booze all day.

stop about 2 hours before you fly.

start pissing.. drink water.. keep pissing.

take handfuls of the pills I mentioned. drink little more water.

pee a few more times.

stumble onto plane, buckle in.. wake up when you land.

done.
- robin_steele264

I can't sleep on planes...

No, my list (5y) is correct.
Not sure what you mean by 'Perry is 18th on that list'.

EDIT:

you should read the whole thread before commenting.
We were not discussing points, but goals.

3rd was in goals last 5 seasons. (Perry's Tied 4th in Goals over last 3 seasons)
- MaximusAurelius

Yea..my bad I was going with points

I never use the can... even on 5+ hour flights.

Ive mastered the art of knocking myself cold with the perfect mix of booze, melatonin, gravol and advil.

timing is key.

drink a (frank)load of booze all day.

stop about 2 hours before you fly.

start pissing.. drink water.. keep pissing.

take handfuls of the pills I mentioned. drink little more water.

pee a few more times.

stumble onto plane, buckle in.. wake up when you land.

done.
- robin_steele264

Are you B.A Baracus?

I can't sleep on planes...
- SofaKingBored

I refuse to stay awake.

Try my steps to success.

If I have a middle seat... everyone is gonna have a bad time.
- robin_steele264

I don't fly for work or anything, so I don't fly often. In my entire life I've only been stuck in the middle seat twice. Both times so my girlfriend could sit on the window. Selfish wench.

Some of us get free upgrades on the regular...
- SofaKingBored

Frequent flyer status will do that... they guy I work for at the university gets free upgrades all the time with all the travel that he has to do...

Yes
- Daddichronic

Blake Wheeler eh? Good for him!

Its an interesting list and shows the best point getters in the NHL the last 3 seasons but its not the best 20 best players in the league ranked top to bottom