Kessel: 0,77 ppg -75
Kane: 0,96 ppg +51
- Pecafan Fan

Do you think Kane puts up those numbers on these leaf team? No (frank)ing way. Not a. Chance.

Kessel: 0,77 ppg -75
Kane: 0,96 ppg +51
- Pecafan Fan

a 5 year old could be a + player with Chicago

Kessel: 0,77 ppg -75
Kane: 0,96 ppg +51
- Pecafan Fan

What about Marner

What about Marner
- MaximusAurelius

Arizona is gonna put a dagger in the hearts of many Leaf fans with whoever they pick

Kessel to Philly for Vinny and the Flyers 1st and 2nd round picks. Gonna have to take a junk contract back similar to Dion
- Popcorn Kid

And Vinny can lay with Horton.

Kessel: 0,77 ppg -75
Kane: 0,96 ppg +51
- Pecafan Fan

+/- when comparing chicago and toronto?

swap the players and Kessel has two rings and also scored some big goals.. and Leaf fans want to run Kane out of town for no hustle or drive
- Popcorn Kid

Na because appaently kessel is invisible in the playoffs.

Do you think Kane puts up those numbers on these leaf team? No (frank)ing way. Not a. Chance.
- burn

Kane is the better player. Both on paper and on the ice.

Better idea:

Keep Kessel, trade DJ Dion and play Kadri with JVR and Kessel.

Phaneuf has a negative impact on all players on the team, and team will be better without the Pylon.

Arizona is gonna put a dagger in the hearts of many Leaf fans with whoever they pick
- robin_steele264

Don't worry, we'll dagger ourselves when we bust the pick in 3 years and run him out of town.

That's probably why everyone says the Leafs should trade Kessel.

He's just too good a player, and a perfect example of drive and determination.
- Pecafan Fan

According to BAbcock, if it causes pain, do it. The return outweighs keeping him on a rebuilding team. It's not that complicated Asp.

Arizona is gonna put a dagger in the hearts of many Leaf fans with whoever they pick
- robin_steele264

yeah it sucks we will have to choose 1 of 2 of of strome,marner,hanfiin!

haha

Kane is the better player. Both on paper and on the ice.
- Pecafan Fan

not in the cabs though

Don't worry, we'll dagger ourselves when we bust the pick in 3 years and run him out of town.
- systemtool

(frank) I love the Leafs

According to BAbcock, if it causes pain, do it. The return outweighs keeping him on a rebuilding team. It's not that complicated Asp.
- Canada Cup

Sometimes, bringing multiple pieces is better than having one good piece.

yeah it sucks we will have to choose 1 of 2 of of strome,marner,hanfiin!

haha
- GardinerExpress

Marner enthusiasts will be heart broken if he's gone

Kane is the better player. Both on paper and on the ice.
- Pecafan Fan

With a better lineup surrounding him. Kane isn't putting up those numbers with these leaf team. It's not even a question.

Kane it the better player, that's a fair opinion... But the point is there isn't much to choose between the two.

Kane is the better player. Both on paper and on the ice.
- Pecafan Fan

why did you omit goals in your evaluation? Is it because one guy has cracked 30 six times and the other only once? oh wait that doesnt help your argument

Marner enthusiasts will be heart broken if he's gone
- robin_steele264

don't worry, they will take Hanifin

Anyone saying hed be a fit in st Louis is insane. Hitchcock would never stand for all that crap. Hed be benched most of the season. Even the legendary brett hull had incredible fights with him constantly......and he was in shape and played well.

No fit in st Louis. If you think so, seek immediate medical attention.
- SMBDragon

Hull also admits he became a better player under Hitchcock and changed his attitude when he had to play with guys like Modano, Nieuwendyk, Belfour and Zubov. Hitchcock also says he learned a lot from Hull. i don't think Hitchcock is as closed-minded as you think he is.

Phil has work ethic issues, i think we all know that. but what he gets away with in Toronto, where he's been so insulted by the organization and where there have just been so few respected leaders, he would likely not get away with in St. Louis. he can be reformed and Hull is a good example. except Hull was already on the downside when he went to Dallas and Kessel, theoretically, should have another 3-4 prime years left.

don't worry, they will take Hanifin
- GardinerExpress

then my heart will be broken. i want Hanifan

Arizona is gonna put a dagger in the hearts of many Leaf fans with whoever they pick
- robin_steele264

I just went over every possible scenario
Marner, Strome or Hanifin ... so disappointing

Kessel: 0,77 ppg -75
Kane: 0,96 ppg +51
- Pecafan Fan

his #'s took a hit this year.

I don't really care about Kessel's value... but until he actually puts up the numbers, he's not in the same class of goal scorers as guys who pot 50-60 goals.
- robin_steele264

Put Kessel 1 season next to Datsyuk (bye bye Phaneuf) and Kessel breaks 90points easily.

Kane is the better player. Both on paper and on the ice.
- Pecafan Fan

Kane is also surrounded by better players. He's had Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook... lesser has had Bozak, Gunnarson, Crabb and others out there with him for substantial chunks of time in the past, before getting JvR more recently. I'd be intrigued to see what Kane would do with that supporting cast...