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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 23 @ 2:01 PM ET
Ha! Yeah. I'll gladly go to my grave as a happy 99%erer.
- Topshelf Mountain


If the 1% gave away everything they had, it wouldn't make a dent in the daily lives of the 99%.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
It happens to MOST people. Some of us are still stupidly unselfish.
- Topshelf Mountain

Yeah, I'm generous by nature . Not all that attached to money. I don't do a tonne of donating, but I do what I can.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
If the 1% gave away everything they had, it wouldn't make a dent in the daily lives of the 99%.
- sammy87

Are you sure about that? I have no idea in dollars what the richest 1% are worth. I think in the U.S. It would make an impact, but globally?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

May 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
Detroit fan offering

Tatar + Pulkinnen + 2015 1st for Maatta

I think I'd take it.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
Are you sure about that? I have no idea in dollars what the richest 1% are worth. I think in the U.S. It would make an impact, but globally?
- Jeropotato



There are other intangibles that factor into this... but if everyone would use what the 1% would give back to better themself, it'd make the difference. But all countries have people who live just to collect handouts and give nothing back. Fixing that is just as vital as the 1% giving up vast wealth... neither of which seems to ever have a chance of changing.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
There are other intangibles that factor into this... but if everyone would use what the 1% would give back to better themself, it'd make the difference. But all countries have people who live just to collect handouts and give nothing back. Fixing that is just as vital as the 1% giving up vast wealth... neither of which seems to ever have a chance of changing.
- Guile

Oh for sure...most cases it would just be fed back to the machine almost instantly...but that's still a sweet check in the mail, no?
MANXMAN
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.21.2013

May 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
Exactly good to see the Ruble crumbling....get out of UKRAINE!!!!
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
Detroit fan offering

Tatar + Pulkinnen + 2015 1st for Maatta

I think I'd take it.

- YouMeAndDupuis9



Hmmm... Tatar is a top line winger... the LW that Malkin is in need of. Pulk has looked great in the AHL, but not so much in his time in the NHL. At least not injury prone yet.

Their 1st rounder just offsets our obtaining Perron.

Well, I'd consider this...

EDIT: Actually, I take this in a heartbeat... Top line winger quality for Maatta, who is a top D pairing quality, coming off injury.. Then we get what could be a good prospect, and a pick.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
Detroit fan offering

Tatar + Pulkinnen + 2015 1st for Maatta

I think I'd take it.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I'd absolutely do that. Though Pens would be obligated to acquiring a top pairing UFA dman if they did that too.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 23 @ 2:31 PM ET
I'd absolutely do that. Though Pens would be obligated to acquiring a top pairing UFA dman if they did that too.
- jfkst1



I wouldn't seek out one right away... I think you then ride it out with the young D and see who can truly step up instead of overpaying. We would then be able to retain Chorney more likely, and keep him and Dumoulin together possibly.

Unless we can grab another 1 year deal like Ehrhoff, I want this young D to sink or swim.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
To expand on that Maatta trade...

I wouldn't put Pouliot in the top pairing, too much offense could give up many chances the other way.

Letang-Cole
Pouliot-Lovejoy/Dumoulin
Scuderi-Dumoulin/Chorney

And of course, if Scuds is gone, you get the Dumo-Chorney pairing, with Harrington as the 7th man.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 23 @ 2:37 PM ET
Read about this yesterday, and totally agree. (frank)ing Russia

Why don't they just try harder to improve the condition and treatment of players in the KHL and instead you'll have some Russian players actually staying in their country or some even leaving the NHL to play in Russia. I know the economy is a disaster, but still implementing this rule is stupid, it's unfair to those who choose hockey as their profession.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Slava Fetisov is a Giant Hypocrite
Slava Fetisov is a Giant Hypocrite

- Ryan_Wilson

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 23 @ 2:48 PM ET
Nice to see that North American propaganda machine working well.

Russia bad. West good.

The comical thing is that the sheep on this side of the pond actually believe they vote for a "democracy". Corporatism.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Nice to see that North American propaganda machine working well.

Russia bad. West good.

The comical thing is that the sheep on this side of the pond actually believe they vote for a "democracy". Corporatism.

- flyer_nutter

I know a lot of Russian immigrants that have been here for a while now....and they looooove Putin. It's a different perspective for sure, can't pay too much attention to western media portrayal of him.
eganator
Boston Bruins
Location: UT
Joined: 04.02.2015

May 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
You have to stay because you signed a contract? Strong words by someone who's team was captained by Ilya Kovalchuk.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 23 @ 4:31 PM ET
Detroit fan offering

Tatar + Pulkinnen + 2015 1st for Maatta

I think I'd take it.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


After losing Despres and Scuds/Martin probably being done.. Letang out parts of the season, I wouldn't let go of another great young dman. It's a great return, but then you're looking to sign a top defenseman from somewhere too instead of keeping the young one you already have. But then again.. it's a top 6 winger, which there is also a need for.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

May 23 @ 4:37 PM ET
I'd absolutely do that. Though Pens would be obligated to acquiring a top pairing UFA dman if they did that too.
- jfkst1

Completely agree. Love Maatta but that's a strong overpayment, which is why it probably won't happen. But if we did trade Maatta, he'd need to be replaced. Rolling with the d we have now is risky already and the top pair will have to be great to compensate.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

May 23 @ 5:26 PM ET
Nice to see that North American propaganda machine working well.

Russia bad. West good.

The comical thing is that the sheep on this side of the pond actually believe they vote for a "democracy". Corporatism.

- flyer_nutter

sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 23 @ 5:26 PM ET
I know a lot of Russian immigrants that have been here for a while now....and they looooove Putin. It's a different perspective for sure, can't pay too much attention to western media portrayal of him.
- Jeropotato


Do you ever wonder why Russian chics will marry an American they never met through the mail? Place is a dump. Domestic abuse is rampant there along with many other terrible things. The people there see Putin as a strong man willing to combat against those perceived to be against Russia. Make no mistake about it, Russia is trying to bring back the pride of the USSR and a reason for territorial expansion.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
There are other intangibles that factor into this... but if everyone would use what the 1% would give back to better themself, it'd make the difference. But all countries have people who live just to collect handouts and give nothing back. Fixing that is just as vital as the 1% giving up vast wealth... neither of which seems to ever have a chance of changing.
- Guile


Why should the 1% give anything back they earned? Do you not think they dont pay tax on anything?

If they gave it to individuals, it would just be blown on jet skis and might last 2 weeks if you spread it across 300 million people.

If the Govt took it, no individuals would see it and just lost in the beaurcratic machine.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

May 23 @ 5:46 PM ET
Why should the 1% give anything back they earned? Do you not think they dont pay tax on anything?

If they gave it to individuals, it would just be blown on jet skis and might last 2 weeks if you spread it across 300 million people.

If the Govt took it, no individuals would see it and just lost in the beaurcratic machine.

- sammy87


Jet skis.....awesome!!!!!

A few years back the Gov gave some people a sizable deduction on their returns. I'm sure a lot of those folks used it wisely and it probably helped immensely for some. You also referenced these 1% ers as earning it?...I would bet the majority of "their" money wasn't earned. Stolen, fraud, Mom and Dad.....
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

May 23 @ 5:47 PM ET
If the 1% gave away everything they had, it wouldn't make a dent in the daily lives of the 99%.
- sammy87[/quote

And within 10-20 years there'd be a new, different 1%.
out_of_market
Joined: 11.23.2014

May 23 @ 5:57 PM ET
Hypocrisy and distortion in politics? Say not!

I was always a fan of Fetisov. I’m old enough to have seen him play while part of the Red Army (1980/84/88). The ‘Soviet’ Red Wings were a fun group to watch play the game as well. As a fan of the game, I was not upset by their success.

With his proposed regulation, Fetisov is simply wrong. Individual liberty is one of the most fundamental aspects of the human experience. Constraints against it should be severely minimized. There is no greater destruction to individual liberty than that of government regulation. If it passes, so be it, the NHL will survive regardless. The law will most certainly have an inverse effect to it’s stated intent however.

And that’s enough politics.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 23 @ 6:23 PM ET
Jet skis.....awesome!!!!!

A few years back the Gov gave some people a sizable deduction on their returns. I'm sure a lot of those folks used it wisely and it probably helped immensely for some. You also referenced these 1% ers as earning it?...I would bet the majority of "their" money wasn't earned. Stolen, fraud, Mom and Dad.....

- Topshelf Mountain


So if your parents leave you an inheritance it should be seized by the state?

Warren Buffet, Gates, Jobs, Bloomberg, Ryan, are all part of the 1%. They all took on considerable risk to get where they were. They took a chacne and created something. Sure you can get a decent job and make upper middle class income on a salary, but those that are at the top are not salary employees. They own it or invested wisely. Just because someone chose not to aspire to anything, does not make them entitled to something.

I am assuming this is all acquired legally.

Those that suggest that the 1% dont deserve it and the wealth should be re distributed are basically suggesting socialism. In which case as said before a different 1% will control them.
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