It's not that outlandish. It's possible to get a similar prospect at 7th. Guys like Barzal or Provorov should be there, and a guy like Marner or Hanifin could drop. Maybe wait until you're on the clock and see who you'd have a shot at before saying yes or no either way.
- Jsaquella

I'm guessing there is talk of moving up from 7

I'm guessing there is talk of moving up from 7
- ob18

No, potentially trading the 7th for Drouin.

Drouin is better suited to wing. His two way game needs work, and Cooper has noted that over the course of the season.

That said, They'd be nucking futs to trade him for less than a really good package. The guy still has a ton of skill and potential, the Lightning simply aren't handing him anything.
- Jsaquella

i also just dont see the lightning necessarily being desperate for anything. its not like they have gaping holes somewhere, forcing them to make him the sacrificial lamb to plug the weakness to compete now. theyre firing now on all cylinders.

the kid is basically a luxury project that still holds incredible value. and really, he has no leverage anyway. so id either just let him marinate, earn it, and be better in the long run for it, or if you go to cash out, still demand the full freight.

No, potentially trading the 7th for Drouin.
- Jsaquella

Nope, maybe I'd consider giving them their own pick back for him.

i also just dont see the lightning necessarily being desperate for anything. its not like they have gaping holes somewhere, forcing them to make him the sacrificial lamb to plug the weakness to compete now. theyre firing now on all cylinders.

the kid is basically a luxury project that still holds incredible value. and really, he has no leverage anyway. so id either just let him marinate, earn it, and be better in the long run for it, or if you go to cash out, still demand the full freight.
- stayinthefnnet

Yeah, pretty much how I see it, but he's also a guy who is a top tier talent and prospect. This isn;t a guy who is 23 or 24 and hasn't been able to crack the line up, he's a 19 year old, spending his first year as a pro, on a team that is as deep as the Pacific Ocean.

On a lesser team, he's playing 2nd line minutes and seeing a ton of PP time. Eventually, he will with the Lightning

i also just dont see the lightning necessarily being desperate for anything. its not like they have gaping holes somewhere, forcing them to make him the sacrificial lamb to plug the weakness to compete now. theyre firing now on all cylinders.

the kid is basically a luxury project that still holds incredible value. and really, he has no leverage anyway. so id either just let him marinate, earn it, and be better in the long run for it, or if you go to cash out, still demand the full freight.
- stayinthefnnet

There in lies the interesting debate. Personally, I think it will cost at least a high first and a very good prospect. The Flyers definitely have a need for a play making LW and fit at least some of the potential freight charge. Also, it doesn't hurt that Yzerman and Hexy have worked out the Coburn trade recently, so they at least feel comfortable negotiating with each other. Again, highly unlikely, but with the out of the box thinking of Hexy, who knows what happens next.

Nope, maybe I'd consider giving them their own pick back for him.
- ob18

It'd depend on who is still there at 7, TBH.

It'd depend on who is still there at 7, TBH.
- Jsaquella

If it's me I'm likely keeping 7...........but who is still on the board could change it.

There in lies the interesting debate. Personally, I think it will cost at least a high first and a very good prospect. The Flyers definitely have a need for a play making LW and fit at least some of the potential freight charge. Also, it doesn't hurt that Yzerman and Hexy have worked out the Coburn trade recently, so they at least feel comfortable negotiating with each other. Again, highly unlikely, but with the out of the box thinking of Hexy, who knows what happens next.
- ravishingone

what would you move?

If it's me I'm likely keeping 7...........but who is still on the board could change it.
- ob18

who is your top 10 prospects again?

who is your top 10 prospects again?
- ravishingone

I don't have a specific order but it would be who we think might be available at #7 (my list is 8 players)

Barzal
Provorov
Rantanen
Werenski
Crouse
Meier
Connor
Zacha

what would you move?
- stayinthefnnet

I'm interested in moving #7 for Drouin. My only untouchables prospects are Sanheim, Morin, and to a lesser extent Stolarz. There is nothing to suggest to me that Drouin still won't be an elite scorer in the NHL. He is going to come with a heavy cost, which matches up with a heavy need for the Flyers. I'll offer Hagg or Ghost with #7 and see what the counter offer would be. I do think Hexy would trade young assets for the opportunity to get a young asset back.

I'm interested in moving #7 for Drouin. My only untouchables prospects are Sanheim, Morin, and to a lesser extent Stolarz. There is nothing to suggest to me that Drouin still won't be an elite scorer in the NHL. He is going to come with a heavy cost, which matches up with a heavy need for the Flyers. I'll offer Hagg or Ghost with #7 and see what the counter offer would be. I do think Hexy would trade young assets for the opportunity to get a young asset back.
- ravishingone

yeah, true.

its not like moving young guys for young guys is a step back or jeopardizing a youth rebuild. its not like youre dumping young assets for drew stafford at the deadline.

yeah, true.

its not like moving young guys for young guys is a step back or jeopardizing a youth rebuild. its not like youre dumping young assets for drew stafford at the deadline.
- stayinthefnnet

Exactly. Also, the draft grade Hexy had on Drouin coming out in his draft year will determine a lot. I know very little about the prospects at the top of this draft, but I can certainly see the logic in forgoing the opportunity to draft a prospect who has never played in the NHL for a guy who is 20 and had a good rookie year on a very deep team.

I'm interested in moving #7 for Drouin. My only untouchables prospects are Sanheim, Morin, and to a lesser extent Stolarz. There is nothing to suggest to me that Drouin still won't be an elite scorer in the NHL. He is going to come with a heavy cost, which matches up with a heavy need for the Flyers. I'll offer Hagg or Ghost with #7 and see what the counter offer would be. I do think Hexy would trade young assets for the opportunity to get a young asset back.
- ravishingone

See, I'd offer the 7th pick, and no more, and that'd be my best offer.

It's not that I don't think Drouin isn't an outstanding prospect. i just think you can get a guy who will be as good with that pick, and can keep Hagg or Gostisbehere

See, I'd offer the 7th pick, and no more, and that'd be my best offer.

It's not that I don't think Drouin isn't an outstanding prospect. i just think you can get a guy who will be as good with that pick, and can keep Hagg or Gostisbehere
- Jsaquella

It makes sense, but I just think what the draft grade on Drouin will determine how far Hexy would be willing to go with compensation. If he is evaluated to be so much higher then who is on the board at #7, then the offer would probably be more.

From my novice perspective, I don't think the gap is that wide between Eichel and Drouin's draft grade.

It makes sense, but I just think what the draft grade on Drouin will determine how far Hexy would be willing to go with compensation. If he is evaluated to be so much higher then who is on the board at #7, then the offer would probably be more.

From my novice perspective, I don't think the gap is that wide between Eichel and Drouin's draft grade.
- ravishingone

Drouin was a very strong prospect in a solid and deep draft. In this class, I think he's in the same level as guys like Strome, Marner, Hanifin, Provorov and Barzal.

If Eichel or McDavid had been in Drouin's class, they'd have been the clear cut number one pick, even with MacKinnon, Jones, Drouin and Barkov available. I'd hate to trade a pick that becomes one of those 5 guys, plus Hagg or Ghost for Drouin and have the guy they passed up being as good or better than Drouin

Drouin was a very strong prospect in a solid and deep draft. In this class, I think he's in the same level as guys like Strome, Marner, Hanifin, Provorov and Barzal.

If Eichel or McDavid had been in Drouin's class, they'd have been the clear cut number one pick, even with MacKinnon, Jones, Drouin and Barkov available. I'd hate to trade a pick that becomes one of those 5 guys, plus Hagg or Ghost for Drouin and have the guy they passed up being as good or better than Drouin
- Jsaquella

It makes sense why you would only offer #7 and in the end that's what it may only take. With this offseason, this summer could be very interesting. I do hope Hexy finds a way to get Zaitsev. I know he is going to have to move out a bunch of dmen, but I think getting a 23 year old dman who has played well in the KHL is worth the gamble.

I'm interested in moving #7 for Drouin. My only untouchables prospects are Sanheim, Morin, and to a lesser extent Stolarz. There is nothing to suggest to me that Drouin still won't be an elite scorer in the NHL. He is going to come with a heavy cost, which matches up with a heavy need for the Flyers. I'll offer Hagg or Ghost with #7 and see what the counter offer would be. I do think Hexy would trade young assets for the opportunity to get a young asset back.
- ravishingone

Why give up multiple assets for Drouin when we can retain players/prospects and potentially get a player as good or better than Drouin at #7? Sure, Drouin could be really good. But so too could who we pick at 7, and we don't have to give up anything additional to find out.

Drouin was a very strong prospect in a solid and deep draft. In this class, I think he's in the same level as guys like Strome, Marner, Hanifin, Provorov and Barzal.

If Eichel or McDavid had been in Drouin's class, they'd have been the clear cut number one pick, even with MacKinnon, Jones, Drouin and Barkov available. I'd hate to trade a pick that becomes one of those 5 guys, plus Hagg or Ghost for Drouin and have the guy they passed up being as good or better than Drouin
- Jsaquella

Exactly.

I don't have a specific order but it would be who we think might be available at #7 (my list is 8 players)

Barzal
Provorov
Rantanen
Werenski
Crouse
Meier
Connor
Zacha
- ob18

C'mon, stop lollygagging and commit! Get your order down on paper. The draft is only a little more than a month away!

See, I'd offer the 7th pick, and no more, and that'd be my best offer.

It's not that I don't think Drouin isn't an outstanding prospect. i just think you can get a guy who will be as good with that pick, and can keep Hagg or Gostisbehere
- Jsaquella

I'm assuming Drouin is much close to being ready than anything we draft.

Long time, first time. I see the intrigue in johnny d for sure, but I am definitely not moving #7 for him.

Long time, first time. I see the intrigue in johnny d for sure, but I am definitely not moving #7 for him.
- Fryman4

That works for both sides because I don't see Tampa taking the #7 for him.

C'mon, stop lollygagging and commit! Get your order down on paper. The draft is only a little more than a month away!
- wolfhounds

No, it's fluid