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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 21 @ 10:02 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy


What can I say, I dream big.


I'll throw it out there. I'll toss #7 and Ghost or Hagg to start the bidding process to Yzerman. I think the Bolts do need some help on the blueline in the next couple of years. Hedman and Stralman are entrenched. I'm not in love with Garrison and are they willing to extend Coburn for $5 million or more. Again, a long shot, but I think Drouin is better then any prospect in this draft outside of McDavid. At worst, he would be no. 3.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 21 @ 10:06 PM ET
What can I say, I dream big.


I'll throw it out there. I'll toss #7 and Ghost or Hagg to start the bidding process to Yzerman. I think the Bolts do need some help on the blueline in the next couple of years. Hedman and Stralman are entrenched. I'm not in love with Garrison and are they willing to extend Coburn for $5 million or more. Again, a long shot, but I think Drouin is better then any prospect in this draft outside of McDavid. At worst, he would be no. 3.

- ravishingone


I wouldn't make that trade. I wouldn't even trade the #7 overa for Drouin.

He hardly plays for the Lightning. Not saying he won't be good, but that type of package is way too much for a guy who can't even get on the ice
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 10:08 PM ET
I wouldn't make that trade. I wouldn't even trade the #7 overa for Drouin.

He hardly plays for the Lightning. Not saying he won't be good, but that type of package is way too much for a guy who can't even get on the ice

- PhillySportsGuy


Laughton and a second and/or third for Drouin?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 21 @ 10:13 PM ET
I wouldn't make that trade. I wouldn't even trade the #7 overa for Drouin.

He hardly plays for the Lightning. Not saying he won't be good, but that type of package is way too much for a guy who can't even get on the ice

- PhillySportsGuy


He's obviously in the dog house, and they've decided to scratch him to punish him. Drouin dominated in junior and was 0.5 pts/gm player as a 20 year old rookie with the depth of that forward group is impressive.

I think he's worth the gamble much like the Stars did when they traded for Seguin.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 10:17 PM ET
Kimmo Timonen

or

Coburn/Carle

or

Patrick Maroon

or

The New York Rangers
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

May 21 @ 10:18 PM ET
I wouldn't make that trade. I wouldn't even trade the #7 overa for Drouin.

He hardly plays for the Lightning. Not saying he won't be good, but that type of package is way too much for a guy who can't even get on the ice

- PhillySportsGuy


I dunno, man. I'd say that Drouin is better than any forward in this draft not named McDavid or Eichel
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 21 @ 10:22 PM ET
He's obviously in the dog house, and they've decided to scratch him to punish him. Drouin dominated in junior and was 0.5 pts/gm player as a 20 year old rookie with the depth of that forward group is impressive.

I think he's worth the gamble much like the Stars did when they traded for Seguin.

- ravishingone


He's worth a gamble, but not that big of a gamble imo
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 21 @ 10:23 PM ET
Laughton and a second and/or third for Drouin?
- SuperSchennBros


That wouldn't be enough for the Lightning I would think
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 21 @ 10:26 PM ET
He's worth a gamble, but not that big of a gamble imo
- PhillySportsGuy


Understandable. I do think there is a real chance Drouin will be moved this summer, I'm very curious to see the package that would take to get him.

As far as the draft, I really don't want to see Hexy try and move up the draft for anyone. Just sit at #7 and see what falls.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

May 21 @ 10:30 PM ET
Understandable. I do think there is a real chance Drouin will be moved this summer, I'm very curious to see the package that would take to get him.

As far as the draft, I really don't want to see Hexy try and move up the draft for anyone. Just sit at #7 and see what falls.

- ravishingone


I doubt they move Drouin. Why would they move him when his value is at its lowest and he's still on an ELC for two more years? It would make more sense to move a guy like Filpula and give Drouin a shot in the top 9
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 10:32 PM ET
Kimmo Timonen

or

Coburn/Carle

or

Patrick Maroon

or

The New York Rangers

- SuperSchennBros

Not the last one.

First one is the correct answer.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 10:32 PM ET
Ha! Have to admit, watching that series, the potential for a Tampa mini-dynasty is looking kinda scary
- AllInForFlyers

dude i really think its happening...
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 10:35 PM ET
I'm not going to argue with this. I'd rather have this guy than Sindey that's for sure
- Just5


i know i am definitely biased here, but i think this comparison takes some examining.

toews has been WAY more fortunate with team structure. and i know points arent everthing, but crosby has the highest PPG in the playoffs of any active player. that has to count for something, especially for a guy largely considered not to be "clutch"

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 21 @ 10:36 PM ET
I doubt they move Drouin. Why would they move him when his value is at its lowest and he's still on an ELC for two more years? It would make more sense to move a guy like Filpula and give Drouin a shot in the top 9
- PhillySportsGuy


Not to mention resigning stamkos is no lock if the guy is looking for 12 mil or so
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 21 @ 10:44 PM ET
I doubt they move Drouin. Why would they move him when his value is at its lowest and he's still on an ELC for two more years? It would make more sense to move a guy like Filpula and give Drouin a shot in the top 9
- PhillySportsGuy


Filpula has size at center. I don't think Drouin's trade value is diminished at all right now. If they continue to scratch him into next season, then his value takes a hit. Also, its about asset management. I don't know the prospects in the pipeline for the Bolts. Hypothetically, maybe Yzerman feels Proporov is a top 4 dman. A lot easier to move a forward who is in your dog house with the development of Johnson, Kucherov, and Palat.

Its not like there isn't recent precedent. Didn't Uncle Lou trade #8 overall for Corey Schneider?
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

May 21 @ 10:50 PM ET
Patrick Maroon, your really going to do it. You Son of a female dog, you are really going to Win the Stanley Cup!
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 21 @ 10:59 PM ET
i know i am definitely biased here, but i think this comparison takes some examining.

toews has been WAY more fortunate with team structure. and i know points arent everthing, but crosby has the highest PPG in the playoffs of any active player. that has to count for something, especially for a guy largely considered not to be "clutch"

- stayinthefnnet


In fairness to Toews, he has 2 rings and now 4 conference final appearance at the age of 27. Also, I don't think it is much of a debate the Western Conference has been stronger then the East for most of the last decade.

Sid is the better offensive player. I just feel Toews is the better all around player.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 10:59 PM ET
Personally, I would rather see Hexy used #7 in a package to go get Drouin. I know its highly unlikely it will happen.
- ravishingone


That'd be interesting, but I don't think that they're looking to move him. He's a first year pro, and obviously Cooper feels he should earn his time.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 11:04 PM ET
I wouldn't make that trade. I wouldn't even trade the #7 overa for Drouin.

He hardly plays for the Lightning. Not saying he won't be good, but that type of package is way too much for a guy who can't even get on the ice

- PhillySportsGuy

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 11:05 PM ET
In fairness to Toews, he has 2 rings and now 4 conference final appearance at the age of 27. Also, I don't think it is much of a debate the Western Conference has been stronger then the East for most of the last decade.

Sid is the better offensive player. I just feel Toews is the better all around player.

- ravishingone


definitely no knock on toews. he is a stud of a player. it doesnt make him any worse of a player that he and kane were only making 6 mil the past few years. but things like that made a difference. it wouldnt shock me if he gets his third this year. guy is the best player on and captain of basically the best team to come out of the cap era.

i really do think crosby needs that second cup to really cement himself. i dont think the odds are good that he gets it though.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 21 @ 11:06 PM ET
definitely no knock on toews. he is a stud of a player. it doesnt make him any worse of a player that he and kane were only making 6 mil the past few years. but things like that made a difference. it wouldnt shock me if he gets his third this year. guy is the best player on and captain of basically the best team to come out of the cap era.

i really do think crosby needs that second cup to really cement himself. i dont think the odds are good that he gets it though.

- stayinthefnnet


Agreed, I'm a Flyers fan, and I'm not trying to diminish Crosby at all by my earlier statement.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 11:08 PM ET
That'd be interesting, but I don't think that they're looking to move him. He's a first year pro, and obviously Cooper feels he should earn his time.
- Jsaquella


its hard to argue too much with what the lightning are doing right now.

but i definitely wouldnt be looking to sell low on him if i'm TB.

i still think long term he is going to be on stamkos' wing. stammer being more of a shooting center, and drouin being more of a playmaking winger, a la MSL.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 11:09 PM ET

- Nucker101


It's not that outlandish. It's possible to get a similar prospect at 7th. Guys like Barzal or Provorov should be there, and a guy like Marner or Hanifin could drop. Maybe wait until you're on the clock and see who you'd have a shot at before saying yes or no either way.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 11:11 PM ET
its hard to argue too much with what the lightning are doing right now.

but i definitely wouldnt be looking to sell low on him if i'm TB.

i still think long term he is going to be on stamkos' wing. stammer being more of a shooting center, and drouin being more of a playmaking winger, a la MSL.

- stayinthefnnet


Drouin is better suited to wing. His two way game needs work, and Cooper has noted that over the course of the season.

That said, They'd be nucking futs to trade him for less than a really good package. The guy still has a ton of skill and potential, the Lightning simply aren't handing him anything.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 11:11 PM ET
Agreed, I'm a Flyers fan, and I'm not trying to diminish Crosby at all by my earlier statement.
- ravishingone


nope. didnt think that at all. i dont think its a statement that anyone can really make either way in a definitive manner.

ill definitely admit that im bitter seeing toews likely get his third one this year while crosby will probably finish his career with a disappointing one though.

i dont think chicago will suddenly fall apart. theyll still be good. toews, keith, hossa, and kane will all still be there. theyll still be in it every year. but i do think itll get harder for them.
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