My off-the-wall prediction: Under Babcock, Kadri's work ethic improves and production explodes, and/or Gardiner's attention to detail improves and we all call his contract a steal.

Did I say prediction? I meant desperate hope
- TheThrill

1 of the 2 needs some finger crossing...that's for sure!!!!

i thought the rumor was Babcock snubbed it.
- Lee Denault

I didn't realize he was making the trades...Holland must just be his puppet.

- bixll

Congrats buddy.

Curious. Why is Phanuef as good as gone when the coach that was trying to trade for him a couple months ago is now the leafs coach?
- Iggysbff

More importantly - what's Ken Holland going to do now that the coach that makes all his decisions for him is gone?

Who said I pay for freeware?
- Lee Denault

I didn't say you paid for it.

They say it on their web site and during the install of the program

EDIT: Few others beat me to it

Nothing to see here

- TheThrill

I remember that and I was like WTF is jack thinking

I didn't realize he was making the trades...Holland must just be his puppet.
- Garnie

I would assume babcock had some say to be honest.

(words were here)
- TheThrill

He thought so long and hard for the perfect Babcock/Leafs troll, and that was the best he could do.

you and literally everyone else.
- Lee Denault

UFA Market is pretty sparse. Good for the Leafs.

I remember that and I was like WTF is jack thinking
- Vukota

he was completely wilting under the Babcock death stare

I didn't say you paid for it.

They say it on their web site and during the install of the program
- zazzle

its my fav program. its pretty light on the cpu. poopty ads but thats ok.

please, roll with Kadri-Holland as 1-2 . Give Panik full time top 6 minutes. Sign Stoll and Stewart or Williams. Sign Oduya. Re-sign Booth.

JVR-Kadri-Stewart/Williams
Booth - Holland - Panik
Bailey-Stoll-Komarov
Leivo-Carrick-Kozun
Sill

Gardiner-Polak
Rielly-Oduya
Erixon-Robidas
Brennen

depends who they keep.

Phaneuf's as good as gone, and Kessel is likely out the door already.

Team's not going anywhere without those two.
- Feeling Glucky?

wait, what? so they are staying?

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 26s26 seconds ago

Babcock reached out to the Leafs after speaking with Mark Hunter early this week. Sounds like Hunter was key in this decision.



Hunter

I would assume babcock had some say to be honest.
- Lee Denault

Yup. But to think Babcock suddenly sees 30 year old Phaneuf as a building block on a team that should be gutted is silly...

Welcome to Toronto MIKE BABCOCK...

And...

Mike Fisher
Mike Green
Martin St.Louis
Justin Williams
Johnny Oduya
Joel Ward
Danny Cleary
Antti Niemi

Stick with the plan.... 81 , 3, 19, 42

gotta go.
- Lee Denault

why to do I want to yell out Omaha! Omaha!

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 26s26 seconds ago

Babcock reached out to the Leafs after speaking with Mark Hunter early this week. Sounds like Hunter was key in this decision.



Hunter
- lumlums

Who brought in Hunter?

why to do I want to yell out Omaha! Omaha!
- zazzle

timeout timeout

it's not farther along. it should be, but we have nothing to show for these low finishes.

i know you want the rebuild to speed up, but i think you are going to be disapointed
- clark_griswold

But there's got to be some fear that a top 5 pick in 16' might have just got a little less likely.

On a positive note - Babcock himself said you can't win without great young talent down the middle of the ice. I don't think he'll prevent the Leafs from 'rebuilding'.

I hope folks don't go nuts if the Leafs aren't instantly good.


Babcock can't score or play D remember!

Yup. But to think Babcock suddenly sees 30 year old Phaneuf as a building block on a team that should be gutted is silly...
- Mr_Smokey

Yep!

I hope folks don't go nuts if the Leafs aren't instantly good.


Babcock can't score or play D remember!



- robin_steele264

Oh, they will.

He thought so long and hard for the perfect Babcock/Leafs troll, and that was the best he could do.
- 1979AD

Babcock said himself just a few weeks ago that he had "plenty of say in personnel" in Detroit.