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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
I'm very interested to know what the price would be to get Drouin out of Tampa. I have no problem including #7 and seeing what other assets it would take. I wouldn't dangle Morin, Sanheim, and probably Stolarz, but the other prospects I would include.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
Maybe the Rags should figure out how to play slightly more defense when Yandle's not on the ice
- AllInForFlyers

what the iron curtain of girardi mcdonagh isnt good enough?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:40 PM ET
what the iron curtain of girardi mcdonagh isnt good enough?
- JoeRussomanno


The narrative is just crazy -- some guys get no blame when the puck goes in the net when they're on the ice, and some guys get blamed for every single thing that happens

Once your rep is set in that league, it's almost impossible to change it
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 20 @ 9:40 PM ET
Damn..that last goal....
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 20 @ 9:40 PM ET
Since Carle left with the injury, the Rags have taken over the game.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
Make that 4 on CSP! Rangers cannot keep up with the Bolts.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
Whoaaaaa killorn!!

Wish our 3rd liners could do that goal of the playoffs!!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
Since Carle left with the injury, the Rags have taken over the game.
- PLindbergh31

jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 20 @ 9:42 PM ET
Watching the playoffs the Flyers have a long way to go.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:43 PM ET
wtf ... did i get sent back in time to the 80's,? the scoring is unreal
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 9:44 PM ET
Watching the playoffs the Flyers have a long way to go.
- jstross


Your not joking.

It starts with getting grossman involved in a transition game
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:44 PM ET
Watching the playoffs the Flyers have a long way to go.
- jstross


Tampa's speed and collective age is a problem
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

May 20 @ 9:44 PM ET
No wonder flyers have filthy stats against Tamps,faster than lightning
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:45 PM ET
The narrative is just crazy -- some guys get no blame when the puck goes in the net when they're on the ice, and some guys get blamed for every single thing that happens

Once your rep is set in that league, it's almost impossible to change it

- AllInForFlyers

k lemme try this again... sean couturier, second coming of jesus christ, on this board for some... if his name is mentioned in a possible trade for any player, that player then becomes a steaming pile of poop.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:46 PM ET
Your not joking.

It starts with getting grossman involved in a transition game

- Just5


Tampa runs Sustr out there, though -- you can keep one guy like that around.

Not saying they should, but you can
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:47 PM ET
k lemme try this again... sean couturier, second coming of jesus christ, on this board for some... if his name is mentioned in a possible trade for any player, that player then becomes a steaming pile of poop.
- JoeRussomanno


Ha! We definitely all do it -- everybody overvalues (or undervalues) someone
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 9:50 PM ET
Tampa runs Sustr out there, though -- you can keep one guy like that around.

Not saying they should, but you can

- AllInForFlyers


Meh, it doesn't really matter. Next year and in the future morin will be that one and only guy. And that's all that really matters
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 20 @ 9:51 PM ET
Your not joking.

It starts with getting grossman involved in a transition game

- Just5


Schenn and Grossman are traded prior to the d d of the draft.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:51 PM ET
Meh, it doesn't really matter. Next year and in the future morin will be that one and only guy. And that's all that really matters
- Just5


Can't wait for that -- I have a feeling about that kid
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:53 PM ET
Ha! We definitely all do it -- everybody overvalues (or undervalues) someone
- AllInForFlyers

for me personally, i put a lot of value into how a player will impact the team, and the general makeup of the team. like i said earlier, flyers need blueline help. its nice they have prospects who will hit their prime around 2023, but right now they established dmen. so unless your name is giroux, voracek, or mason, ifim hextall you are expendable.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 20 @ 9:53 PM ET
OK. Let's just say that Yandle is being sheltered -- let's say that is, indeed, happening.

He still doesn't get credit for not getting scored on? For not playing defense like Kyle Cumiskey looked last night?

Again: How do you not give the guy credit for not getting scored on, no matter who the coach puts him out against?

It's OK to say, "Hey. I though Keith Yandle was gonna get exposed and lit up with the Rags, but it hasn't happened yet."

Because that is the truth. Why can't those who hated on the deal just acknowledge that truth?

- AllInForFlyers


I don't necessarily look at a player being "sheltered" as a negative. That's not always the case in my opinion. If the Rangers are able to "shelter" Yandle and keep him away from top offensive players, and play Yandle in offensive situations with other good offensive players, then in my view that's good coaching, and not a negative on a player. Players have roles on a team. Teams acquire players to add certain elements to a team. In today's NHL, you just won't score enough goals, or generate enough shots without heavy contributions from the back end. The Rangers didn't acquire Yandle to shut down the opposition. They acquired him to skate and pass the puck, and to generate offense.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 20 @ 9:54 PM ET
Prob not. But with Schultz and gudas very likely on board there is absolutely no reason to have luke and grossman around. Those two are your defensive dmen. Time to move on and I think that's what hextall wants to accomplish. Perhaps Luke can be traded if the flyers eat some salary
- Just5


The Flyers would be carrying 2.7M of dead cap space by sending Luke Schenn to the minors. Not going to happen.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 10:00 PM ET
Your request is granted. I am new Flames blogger
- PhillySportsGuy

ill contribute a click or three a month, i swear!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 10:00 PM ET
Schenn and Grossman are traded prior to the d d of the draft.
- jstross


After the deadline hextall intimated that he would have liked to move more players out but he didn't want to completely gut their slight playoff chances

So yes more moves coming and I agree they are 1 and 1a
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 20 @ 10:01 PM ET
for me personally, i put a lot of value into how a player will impact the team, and the general makeup of the team. like i said earlier, flyers need blueline help. its nice they have prospects who will hit their prime around 2023, but right now they established dmen. so unless your name is giroux, voracek, or mason, ifim hextall you are expendable.
- JoeRussomanno



I would personally add Simmonds to that list of Giroux, Voracek and Mason..

and maybe Rimaldo..
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