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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 20 @ 8:58 PM ET
Who stays and who goes? For the sake of argument, can the Flyers live with these 6 guys as regulars? I'm betting we haven't acquired one or two of our regulars yet that put us over the top.

Morin
Sanheim
Del Zotto
MacDonald
Gudas
Manning

- SuperSchennBros


I think the Flyers are basically stuck with MacD and Schenn. Grossmann and Streit getting moved is possible - Streit either coupled with a pick @ the draft or at the TDL. Morin I think makes the squad out of camp. Sanheim I think they wait another year on him. Gostisbehere they call up during the regular season after he absolutely lights up the AHL, assuming of course none of those prospects are moved between now and next season.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 20 @ 8:59 PM ET
We all know what plus-minus is, but when Yandle got moved, I didn't read anybody saying his -30-whatver was a team stat. All I heard was that Yandle was a terrible defensive player and the Rags were weaker as a team by bringing him in

Still waiting for that to happen

- AllInForFlyers

I don't have the numbers in front of me but I believe I heard the same thing about the type of player Dan Boyle is. In Yandle's case, I believe the team has sheltered Yandle against tough match ups and haven't played him as much as they should for a player of his caliber.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 20 @ 9:01 PM ET
I think the Flyers are basically stuck with MacD and Schenn. Grossmann and Streit getting moved is possible - Streit either coupled with a pick @ the draft or at the TDL. Morin I think makes the squad out of camp. Sanheim I think they wait another year on him. Gostisbehere they call up during the regular season after he absolutely lights up the AHL, assuming of course none of those prospects are moved between now and next season.
- Pixote Andolini

It definitely won't be long until fans begin calling Morin "Moron".
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 20 @ 9:03 PM ET
We all know what plus-minus is, but when Yandle got moved, I didn't read anybody saying his -30-whatver was a team stat. All I heard was that Yandle was a terrible defensive player and the Rags were weaker as a team by bringing him in

Still waiting for that to happen

- AllInForFlyers


There's some hyperbole there for sure. Yandle is a good player, no doubt. Very skilled and adds an element to team. He's just not a player I would want to build my defense around. He's an offensive defenseman and a very good one. Just not great defensively.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
I think the Flyers are basically stuck with MacD and Schenn. Grossmann and Streit getting moved is possible - Streit either coupled with a pick @ the draft or at the TDL. Morin I think makes the squad out of camp. Sanheim I think they wait another year on him. Gostisbehere they call up during the regular season after he absolutely lights up the AHL, assuming of course none of those prospects are moved between now and next season.
- Pixote Andolini


The Flyers would have no problem trading Luke Schenn in my opinion. MacDonald's cap hit and term would limit the trade market for him, but that's okay because I don't want to trade him anyway. I think it's a pretty safe bet that Morin starts in the AHL, especially now that they just signed Medvedev.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
I think the Flyers are basically stuck with MacD and Schenn. Grossmann and Streit getting moved is possible - Streit either coupled with a pick @ the draft or at the TDL. Morin I think makes the squad out of camp. Sanheim I think they wait another year on him. Gostisbehere they call up during the regular season after he absolutely lights up the AHL, assuming of course none of those prospects are moved between now and next season.
- Pixote Andolini


Don't see AMac getting moved and I'm ok with that. He fits a lot of what Hak wants to do with the d and his value is just God awful low. I could see grossman and Luke both gone. I don't think any of the kids make the squad out of camp so you have these 7

Streit
Schultz
Manning
Medvedev
Amac
Mdz
Gudas
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
I don't have the numbers in front of me but I believe I heard the same thing about the type of player Dan Boyle is. In Yandle's case, I believe the team has sheltered Yandle against tough match ups and haven't played him as much as they should for a player of his caliber.
- SuperSchennBros


OK. Let's just say that Yandle is being sheltered -- let's say that is, indeed, happening.

He still doesn't get credit for not getting scored on? For not playing defense like Kyle Cumiskey looked last night?

Again: How do you not give the guy credit for not getting scored on, no matter who the coach puts him out against?

It's OK to say, "Hey. I though Keith Yandle was gonna get exposed and lit up with the Rags, but it hasn't happened yet."

Because that is the truth. Why can't those who hated on the deal just acknowledge that truth?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 9:09 PM ET
The phantoms d looks to be sweet

Hagg schenn
Ghost morin
Marti alt
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 20 @ 9:10 PM ET
OK. Let's just say that Yandle is being sheltered -- let's say that is, indeed, happening.

He still doesn't get credit for not getting scored on? For not playing defense like Kyle Cumiskey looked last night?

Again: How do you not give the guy credit for not getting scored on, no matter who the coach puts him out against?

It's OK to say, "Hey. I though Keith Yandle was gonna get exposed and lit up with the Rags, but it hasn't happened yet."

Because that is the truth. Why can't those who hated on the deal just acknowledge that truth?

- AllInForFlyers

I don't know, Henrik Lundqvist is really good?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 20 @ 9:15 PM ET
Carle and Stepan collided. Which player is out of the game?

The marshmallow soft cream puff man.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:17 PM ET
The phantoms d looks to be sweet

Hagg schenn
Ghost morin
Marti alt

- Just5

You think Schenn is going to the AHL? Might as well move him for a pick if that's the case.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:21 PM ET
We all know what plus-minus is, but when Yandle got moved, I didn't read anybody saying his -30-whatver was a team stat. All I heard was that Yandle was a terrible defensive player and the Rags were weaker as a team by bringing him in

Still waiting for that to happen

- AllInForFlyers

the flyers would have improved drastically had they acquired him. hopedully he hits free agency.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
OK. Let's just say that Yandle is being sheltered -- let's say that is, indeed, happening.

He still doesn't get credit for not getting scored on? For not playing defense like Kyle Cumiskey looked last night?

Again: How do you not give the guy credit for not getting scored on, no matter who the coach puts him out against?

It's OK to say, "Hey. I though Keith Yandle was gonna get exposed and lit up with the Rags, but it hasn't happened yet."

Because that is the truth. Why can't those who hated on the deal just acknowledge that truth?

- AllInForFlyers

because in the back of their minds they know we shouldve traded couts, a pick and a prospect for him.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
You think Schenn is going to the AHL? Might as well move him for a pick if that's the case.
- hereticpride


Prob not. But with Schultz and gudas very likely on board there is absolutely no reason to have luke and grossman around. Those two are your defensive dmen. Time to move on and I think that's what hextall wants to accomplish. Perhaps Luke can be traded if the flyers eat some salary
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
how's that song go? ... where's your crown king nothing....
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 20 @ 9:30 PM ET
Carle and Stepan collided. Which player is out of the game?

The marshmallow soft cream puff man.

- PLindbergh31

STEPAN?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:31 PM ET
because in the back of their minds they know we shouldve traded couts, a pick and a prospect for him.
- JoeRussomanno


I wouldn't have moved Couts, and I understand the Flyers' new emphasis on keeping assets, but the hate on Yandle was ridiculous that day he got moved
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 20 @ 9:31 PM ET
I know im late but sweet mother of god 8 years at $10 million / year for a coach?

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 20 @ 9:33 PM ET
I got a 8.7 for yandles triple Axle there.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:33 PM ET
I wouldn't have moved Couts, and I understand the Flyers' new emphasis on keeping assets, but the hate on Yandle was ridiculous that day he got moved
- AllInForFlyers

the flyers have an abundance of 3rd and 4th liners, they could use some talented dmen.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 20 @ 9:34 PM ET
And CSP gives up 3!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 20 @ 9:34 PM ET
Yandle you bearded bum!!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 20 @ 9:34 PM ET
I know im late but sweet mother of god 8 years at $10 million / year for a coach?
- opeth_pa

wait... what?! thats hakstol's salary?!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:35 PM ET
Maybe the Rags should figure out how to play slightly more defense when Yandle's not on the ice
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
Yandle you bearded bum!!
- SuperSchennBros


lol
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