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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
new blood can't be a bad thing. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting a different result. Bringing back the same d core next year that finished the season would be that to a T.
- PLindbergh31


Agreed -- no matter what you think about the coach, at some point it's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmys and Joes
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
But we've added Gudas.
- jmatchett383


Letting Gudas play on the third pairing and getting rid of one of the high priced schlubs is fine by me.
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

May 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
Medvedev sounds intriguing. Looking purely at numbers he's been a good player in the KHL.

Wonder if adding a Russian veteran D-man is a sign that the Flyers are looking at drafting a Russian defenseman by way of the Brandon Wheat Kings....

That said, his career on the bigger ice and reported two way ability means he's probably a good skater and fits the mold of what Hextall and Hakstol have stated their desire is.

- Jsaquella


I also wonder if it will help to integrate another Russian player, in Zaitzev, or perhaps a forward. After the Clarke years, I'm sure the Flyers weren't a top destination for Russian-born players.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
so he's on his way to chicago?
- hammarby31

Philly
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
Medvedev sounds intriguing. Looking purely at numbers he's been a good player in the KHL.

Wonder if adding a Russian veteran D-man is a sign that the Flyers are looking at drafting a Russian defenseman by way of the Brandon Wheat Kings....

That said, his career on the bigger ice and reported two way ability means he's probably a good skater and fits the mold of what Hextall and Hakstol have stated their desire is.

- Jsaquella


Not drafting any throwaways in 2014.... sitting on their hands on July 1.... selling at the TDL when the team's still within spitting distance... refusing to BO Vinny.... not rolling the red carpet for Babcock... signing a Russian... wow, these really aren't your father's Philadelphia Flyers.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 20 @ 3:25 PM ET
Agreed -- no matter what you think about the coach, at some point it's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmys and Joes
- AllInForFlyers


Yep.

I'd like to see a d core of Streit, Del Zotto, the Russian, Schultz, Gudas, and L. Schenn. Grossmann and MacDonald as the odd men out.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
Agreed -- no matter what you think about the coach, at some point it's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmys and Joes
- AllInForFlyers


What?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
Not drafting any throwaways in 2014.... sitting on their hands on July 1.... selling at the TDL when the team's still within spitting distance... refusing to BO Vinny.... not rolling the red carpet for Babcock... signing a Russian... wow, these really aren't your father's Philadelphia Flyers.


- Tomahawk


They are different -- Ed Snider hasn't lost his poop yet, which stuns me. He really is letting Hextall do his thing. Not that Big Ed loses sleep over Russians anymore -- people forget he authorized Bryzgalov's massive deal -- but the way the Flyers are operating as a whole does appear to be different
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
What?
- flyer_nutter


Ha! Old NFL proverb, where at some point, people need to realize that you gotta have good players, no matter who your coach is

Good players make coaches look smarter than they are
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 20 @ 3:31 PM ET
Ha! Old NFL proverb, where at some point, people need to realize that you gotta have good players, no matter who your coach is

Good players make coaches look smarter than they are

- AllInForFlyers


Reminded me of:

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
So according to the Twitter machine, they're giving Medvedev a cool $3 million dollars next year. Obviously, he's now in the top 6.

Are the Flyers holding a garage sale on their current defensemen on draft day?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
So according to the Twitter machine, they're giving Medvedev a cool $3 million dollars next year. Obviously, he's now in the top 6.

Are the Flyers holding a garage sale on their current defensemen on draft day?

- johndewar


I hope the signing of Medvedev doesn't mean they are parting ways with Del Zotto.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
So according to the Twitter machine, they're giving Medvedev a cool $3 million dollars next year. Obviously, he's now in the top 6.

Are the Flyers holding a garage sale on their current defensemen on draft day?

- johndewar


You know what? I think they already know they have a home for at least two of Grossmann, Schenn and MacDonald, and maybe all three

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 20 @ 3:34 PM ET
You know what? I think they already know they have a home for at least two of Grossmann, Schenn and MacDonald, and maybe all three
- AllInForFlyers


I have to think Hextall has moves in place already, with Gudas, having to re-sign MDZ, and now Medvedev.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 3:34 PM ET
I hope the signing of Medvedev doesn't mean they are parting ways with Del Zotto.
- PLindbergh31


They certainly could part with him -- nothing surprises me right now with them -- but he's at the age where you don't need to do that, with how he skates and the fact that he's RFA

But if they did go another direction, I can't say I'd be surprised right now
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
You know what? I think they already know they have a home for at least two of Grossmann, Schenn and MacDonald, and maybe all three
- AllInForFlyers

Very likely
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
You know what? I think they already know they have a home for at least two of Grossmann, Schenn and MacDonald, and maybe all three
- AllInForFlyers


If they can get anything real of value without having to hold back salary for MacDonald, I'm posting nudes.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
If they can get anything real of value without having to hold back salary for MacDonald, I'm posting nudes.
- flyer_nutter

Please God, not selfies
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
so it's $3mil for 1 year. The HF boards guy who broke the news almost 2 hours before the announcement is pretty confident that Zaitsev is also coming to the Flyers.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
They certainly could part with him -- nothing surprises me right now with them -- but he's at the age where you don't need to do that, with how he skates and the fact that he's RFA

But if they did go another direction, I can't say I'd be surprised right now

- AllInForFlyers


Del Zotto played very well last year. His skillset seems to be a good fit with the way Hakstol wants to play. Wouldn't make much sense if they let Del Zotto walk, while having redundant mastodons in L. Schenn and Grossmann.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
I have to think Hextall has moves in place already, with Gudas, having to re-sign MDZ, and now Medvedev.
- johndewar


You have to, based on the fact that they have so many guys on one-ways, you aren't bringing all those guys to camp and letting them fight it out, then have to try to move them in September when money's spent

They have homes for some of these guys already. Just don't know who and where
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
Putin did score 8 goals recently in an exhibition game if nobody heard.
http://www.cbsnews.com/ne...nhl-stars-scores-8-goals/

That's who I want (frank).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
Ha! Old NFL proverb, where at some point, people need to realize that you gotta have good players, no matter who your coach is

Good players make coaches look smarter than they are

- AllInForFlyers





Like that saying, never heard it before.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
They certainly could part with him -- nothing surprises me right now with them -- but he's at the age where you don't need to do that, with how he skates and the fact that he's RFA

But if they did go another direction, I can't say I'd be surprised right now

- AllInForFlyers



I'd be very surprised
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
I also can't wait to see Babcock's leafs suck all the same while Leaf Nation burns to the ground
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