Kidding aside. That post is spot on. We'll be complaining again that teams like TB, ANA, DET and even Calgary are out-drafting us if they keep wasting picks on scrubs. I like Benning's drafting when he's focusing on just finding a good talented player, but when he tried to find these future 4th liners and 6/7 dmen, he makes horrible choices.
- Nucker101

Hockey is a team game. JB has his visions of what it takes to be a winner. Again he took a farm team that for years was going nowhere, uprooted it added some very key components and in one year made it a front runner. These are the kids that will soon be playing on this team.

Again I will say I have more faith in him , than I do in you or that bang on poster.

Hockey is a team game. JB has his visions of what it takes to be a winner. Again he took a farm team that for years was going nowhere, uprooted it added some very key components and in one year made it a front runner. These are the kids that will soon be playing on this team.

Again I will say I have more faith in him , than I do in you or that bang on poster.
- VANTEL

Hell Greene could even have a NHL job again soon.

Agree with pretty much everything here. The worst signings by far, are Miller and Sbisa (how does it look when the actual agent says it was an easy negotiation? and the same goes for Miller). I know it's only been a year and I'm sure there is a plan in place; however, I don't like the fact that he's already made two - what I would call - fairly substantial errors - as noted. And the third one (not so glaring but not very astute either - giving away Garrison - who is a much better player than Sbisa is or perhaps ever will be ( let's hope he proves me/us wrong, though).

And I don't believe there is a comparison to a younger Bieksa (Bieksa is still currently better than Sbisa, even if he is getting long in the tooth and has lost a step - and a million dollar difference in contracts is fairly minimal these days)

As far as Vey goes, he definitely hasn't impressed, although I'll give him another year in order to properly assess him.
- Zogg

Edler last year playing with Bieksa as a partner-39 worst in the league

Holy Jesus do I need a beer. this is stressful.

Hockey is a team game. JB has his visions of what it takes to be a winner. Again he took a farm team that for years was going nowhere, uprooted it added some very key components and in one year made it a front runner. These are the kids that will soon be playing on this team.

Again I will say I have more faith in him , than I do in you or that bang on poster.
- VANTEL

Success in the minors does not always translate to the big leagues, where it is a whole different ball game and so much more competitive. I know it's just been one year and I'm certainly not saying he is not capable of turning this franchise around in due course, but thus far I can't say I've been overly impressed either.

Hockey is a team game. JB has his visions of what it takes to be a winner. Again he took a farm team that for years was going nowhere, uprooted it added some very key components and in one year made it a front runner. These are the kids that will soon be playing on this team.

Again I will say I have more faith in him , than I do in you or that bang on poster.
- VANTEL

Uticabuzz!

The Canucks "system" is so void of anything mentionable it's shocking, with the exception of the past two years. They try to draft skill in the later rounds, they miss and get poop on, they try to draft some size because we've been pushed around for ten years, they get poop on, they try to draft over-age players, they miss they, they get poop on....blah blah blah.

Benning has had ONE draft for the Canucks and a whole month to prepare for it with his new staff. People pushing the panic button are ridiculous!! Give a GM five years of drafting and signing to judge him.
- LeftCoaster

I'm not judging him about his drafting or the early moves he made, its the decisions he has made after watching this team for a year that concern me.

I guess I disagree that a 2nd is a going price for top 4 D.

Kyle Quincey got a 1st and a prospect
Sekera got a 1st and a prospect
Cobourn got a 1st, 3rd and Radko Gudas

I agree that Bieksa and Higgins best cast scenerio is a 2nd and 3rd.

But it is sad that Benning paid a 2nd and a 3rd to acquire guys with big question marks in Vey (turned out better than I expected) and Pedan (still a long ways away), but has received (Garrison) or will likely receive less or the same for proven players.
- belcherbd

Sekera had huge points last year.

Put Weber on the trade block I bet he gets a higher return than Bieksa. People get too easily impressed by numbers

Edler last year playing with Bieksa as a partner-39 worst in the league
- VANTEL

Where did you get that stat? Edler was a -39 and not Bieksa

Holy Jesus do I need a beer. this is stressful.
- thundachunk

Better be one big (frank)ing beer because this stress is going to last a while.

5 years maybe!

I'm not judging him about his drafting or the early moves he made, its the decisions he has made after watching this team for a year that concern me.
- belcherbd

Agreed, to me, making one fairly significant mistake is bad enough but when you have several questionable moves, it does raise a bit of concern

Success in the minors does not always translate to the big leagues, where it is a whole different ball game and so much more competitive. I know it's just been one year and I'm certainly not saying he is not capable of turning this franchise around in due course, but thus far I can't say I've been overly impressed either.
- Zogg

I would argue the changes he made did turn this franchise around for the most part. We went from a bottom feeder in the league to a much more competitive team making the playoffs when most on here had already written off the season. I enjoyed the brand of hockey that was played.

I'm not judging him about his drafting or the early moves he made, its the decisions he has made after watching this team for a year that concern me.
- belcherbd

He hasn't made any decisions other than signing Sbisa and Dorsett...what moves are you talking about? The season just finished three weeks ago, he's got the whole summer and the draft to make moves based on what he saw this year.

Better be one big (frank)ing beer because this stress is going to last a while.

5 years maybe!
- bloatedmosquito

Better be one big (frank)ing beer because this stress is going to last a while.

5 years maybe!
- bloatedmosquito

Better be one big (frank)ing beer because this stress is going to last a while.

5 years maybe!
- bloatedmosquito

It's gonna be a win-win for me.

A) Either Benning proves me wrong and these moves that currently look horrible turn out to defy the odds and logic And I'll happily eat the crow for it.

B) I get to tell everyone "I told ya so!"

I would argue the changes he made did turn this franchise around for the most part. We went from a bottom feeder in the league to a much more competitive team making the playoffs when most on here had already written off the season. I enjoyed the brand of hockey that was played.
- thundachunk

I wouldn't say the Canucks were a bottom feeder. I certainly agree it was a bad year but I think we've already discussed the problems that plagued the Canucks last year. And those problems included the Torts disaster as well as a lot of injuries to top players - not to mention the whole Luongo/Schneider fiasco. I think any team would have taken a significant step back.

Where did you get that stat? Edler was a -39 and not Bieksa
- Zogg

Exactly , when people play with KB they are constantly having to cover up his mistakes, bad decisions and terrible passes, much like Sbisa had to much of the year. Sbisa looked a hell of a lot better when not partnered with Casual Kev

It's gonna be a win-win for me.

A) Either Benning proves me wrong and these moves that currently look horrible turn out to defy the odds and logic

B) I get to tell everyone "I told ya so!"
- Nucker101

Pessimism never loses!

Exactly , when people play with KB they are constantly having to cover up his mistakes, bad decisions and terrible passes, much like Sbisa had to much of the year. Sbisa looked a hell of a lot better when not partnered with Casual Kev
- VANTEL

He was awesome with Hammer and top minutes when guys were hurt.

Success in the minors does not always translate to the big leagues, where it is a whole different ball game and so much more competitive. I know it's just been one year and I'm certainly not saying he is not capable of turning this franchise around in due course, but thus far I can't say I've been overly impressed either.
- Zogg

Success usually starts in the minors. It is rare a horrible player in the minors turns out to be a star NHL player

It's gonna be a win-win for me.

A) Either Benning proves me wrong and these moves that currently look horrible turn out to defy the odds and logic And I'll happily eat the crow for it.

B) I get to tell everyone "I told ya so!"
- Nucker101

You will have an aneurysm before then.

Exactly , when people play with KB they are constantly having to cover up his mistakes, bad decisions and terrible passes, much like Sbisa had to much of the year. Sbisa looked a hell of a lot better when not partnered with Casual Kev
- VANTEL

If that is the case, then Bieksa should have a plus minus number similar to Edler's, no? that is, if you are saying that Bieksa was the primary reason for Edler's terrible rating.

By the way, it lists Bieksa as having a -8 last year and a 0 this year, so not quite sure how you could reconcile those numbers with Edler. Do I think that Bieksa played well this past year? no, but he wasn't outrageously bad either. I think - whether he stays with the Canucks or not - he will have a bounce back year next year, just like what the Sedins went through under Tortorella

Exactly , when people play with KB they are constantly having to cover up his mistakes, bad decisions and terrible passes, much like Sbisa had to much of the year. Sbisa looked a hell of a lot better when not partnered with Casual Kev
- VANTEL

Sbisa was bad in ANA too, this isn't his first bad season. Ducks fans hated him. They said he sucked outside the whole time there out of one stretch where he was playing average.

Agreed, to me, making one fairly significant mistake is bad enough but when you have several questionable moves, it does raise a bit of concern
- Zogg

He took a team that finished 24 th last year, brought in some toughness and scoring along with better goaltending and made the playoffs . He sure had a horrible year