Glad we signed Cedarholm
Sbisa as I said is the younger cheaper Kevin Bieksa with one less year than gillis gave Bieksa and 1 mil cheaper
Don't like the Miller signing but we have stable goaltending for 3 years
He may have been the highest bid for Sven , but Sven is on our team now and not theirs, I have also heard him referred to on Twitter many times as Comets best player.
Pedan has come a long way and again Comets finished second overall
Garrison . The core was/is stale to change that you need to move those NTCs . That was step one
Vey had 9 goals in his rookie season 3 less than Higgins
- VANTEL

Agree to disagree.

I really hope he goes with skill over the safe pick, even if its a long shot.
- belcherbd

Doubt it. I do good he takes a forward just because I think he'll take Carlo if he drafts a dman.

Glad we signed Cedarholm
Sbisa as I said is the younger cheaper Kevin Bieksa with one less year than gillis gave Bieksa and 1 mil cheaper
Don't like the Miller signing but we have stable goaltending for 3 years
He may have been the highest bid for Sven , but Sven is on our team now and not theirs, I have also heard him referred to on Twitter many times as Comets best player.
Pedan has come a long way and again Comets finished second overall
Garrison . The core was/is stale to change that you need to move those NTCs . That was step one
Vey had 9 goals in his rookie season 3 less than Higgins
- VANTEL

Being picky here, but I would have been just as happy to have seen Bieksa traded last summer instead of Garrison. The core may be getting stale but Garrison was one of the newest pieces of the core. and then again, maybe Garrison was just easier to move than Bieksa.

Too early to judge JB.

Being picky here, but I would have been just as happy to have seen Bieksa traded last summer instead of Garrison. The core may be getting stale but Garrison was one of the newest pieces of the core. and then again, maybe Garrison was just easier to move than Bieksa.

Too early to judge JB.
- hillbillydeluxe

Funny you say that... I was just thinking the same thing.

Being picky here, but I would have been just as happy to have seen Bieksa traded last summer instead of Garrison. The core may be getting stale but Garrison was one of the newest pieces of the core. and then again, maybe Garrison was just easier to move than Bieksa.

Too early to judge JB.
- hillbillydeluxe

That is exactly why garrison got asked first he was the newest of the core. I am sure Bieksa will be asked next.

From a guy who watches a ton of WHL hockey:

"Was shocked he was drafted. Even more shocked they signed him."

This is a great post:

seems to be a disconnect between posters arguing that a 7th round pick never matters and posters who see this pick as reflective of underlying flaws with our scouting in general

put me squarely in the second camp...might as well trade our 6th and 7th round picks every year at the deadline for a crap 4th liner if you're going to draft guys where the absolute best case scenario if all the stars align is they turn into a crap 4th liner

there's so much parity in the nhl that every little edge matters, and there's so much potential revenue in drafting well that you'd think that teams would treat every pick from the 1st to the 7th round like gold

so to those saying this pick in a vacuum doesn't matter in the big picture...you're not wrong, but the pick in context waves big red flags all over a scouting staff that long lost receiving the benefit of the doubt

Flattering write up.

This is a great post:
- Nucker101

You are going to stress out more this year I think , than a US president that went the full 8 years in office

You are going to stress out more this year I think , than a US president that went the full 8 years in office
- VANTEL

Here is a suggestion. Low dose daily aspirin and lots of booze.

That is exactly why garrison got asked first he was the newest of the core. I am sure Bieksa will be asked next.
- VANTEL

I have no problem with Garrison being moved but the return was underwhelming.

I have no problem with Bieksa being moved but I think the return now will be much less than it would of been last year.

Hamhuis is the guy to be moved if Benning wants to get a good value, unfortunately I really doubt that happens as it would likely mean playoffs are impossible with him gone.

You are going to stress out more this year I think , than a US president that went the full 8 years in office
- VANTEL

Kidding aside. That post is spot on. We'll be complaining again that teams like TB, ANA, DET and even Calgary are out-drafting us if they keep wasting picks on scrubs. I like Benning's drafting when he's focusing on just finding a good talented player, but when he tried to find these future 4th liners and 6/7 dmen, he makes horrible choices.

I'm not ready to call JB a failure but to me the little things he does just goes against the odds and logic. It's those little things that annoy me.

- Signing Cederholm(I can live with this)
- Sbisa contract(agent said it was an easy negotiation)
- Paid a pretty high price for Pedan who was in the ECHL at that time
- Calgary GM said offer for Sven was by far the best they received(but the trade still looks good)
- Miller contract(he wanted to play out West and yet the Canucks still overpaid)
- Gave up Garrison for a pretty reasonable price
- Vey trade sucks so far


He seems like a guy who will overpay unnecessarily and isn't worried about it.
- Nucker101

Cederholm bust. (I hope I am proved wrong.)
Sbisa I like but spent to much on him.
Pedan good deal.
Sven awesome deal imo.
Miller I like about 1 million per over paid unless it was a 2 year contract.
I never liked Garrison.
Vey I don't like so much but he needs time and I like to see youth get time.
Bonino meh but what do you do when you have to deal a guy like Kesler.

I have no problem with Garrison being moved but the return was underwhelming.

I have no problem with Bieksa being moved but I think the return now will be much less than it would of been last year.

Hamhuis is the guy to be moved if Benning wants to get a good value, unfortunately I really doubt that happens as it would likely mean playoffs are impossible with him gone.
- belcherbd

I am not surprised one bit with the return for Garrisson . That is the going price in trades for mediocre safe players. Bieksa will only get a second and Higgins maybe a third at best.

If you want new personnel on your roster then you need to be willing to take a haircut.

I do believe Edler Hamhuis and Vrbata are the only tradable assets that could bring higher than a second rounder.sedins are off the table I am guessing.

The Canucks "system" is so void of anything mentionable it's shocking, with the exception of the past two years. They try to draft skill in the later rounds, they miss and get poop on, they try to draft some size because we've been pushed around for ten years, they get poop on, they try to draft over-age players, they miss they, they get poop on....blah blah blah.

Benning has had ONE draft for the Canucks and a whole month to prepare for it with his new staff. People pushing the panic button are ridiculous!! Give a GM five years of drafting and signing to judge him.

Waste of a contract. I like Cederholm better than this guy, and that's saying something.
- Nucker101

I'm getting the feeling you're not liking the direction Benning's taking the canucks. So much optimism in here when he was hired.

In a sick/twisted way I'm hoping he turns into Gillis 2.0.

From a guy who watches a ton of WHL hockey:

"Was shocked he was drafted. Even more shocked they signed him."
- Nucker101

I was felt the same. When I saw. I think I said "Whotf"

Cederholm bust. (I hope I am proved wrong.)
Sbisa I like but spent to much on him.
Pedan good deal.
Sven awesome deal imo.
Miller I like about 1 million per over paid unless it was a 2 year contract.
I never liked Garrison.
Vey I don't like so much but he needs time and I like to see youth get time.
Bonino meh but what do you do when you have to deal a guy like Kesler.
- thundachunk

Cedarholm is still in Jr. how can anyone say he is a bust? He plays top line on a very good Portland team

I am not surprised one bit with the return for Garrisson . That is the going price in trades for mediocre safe players. Bieksa will only get a second and Higgins maybe a third at best.

If you want new personnel on your roster then you need to be willing to take a haircut.

I do believe Edler Hamhuis and Vrbata are the only tradable assets that could bring higher than a second rounder.sedins are off the table I am guessing.
- VANTEL

Cedarholm is still in Jr. how can anyone say he is a bust? He plays top line on a very good Portland team
- VANTEL

I have watched him play a ton. Maybe I haven't seen the best of him.

The Canucks "system" is so void of anything mentionable it's shocking, with the exception of the past two years. They try to draft skill in the later rounds, they miss and get poop on, they try to draft some size because we've been pushed around for ten years, they get poop on, they try to draft over-age players, they miss they, they get poop on....blah blah blah.

Benning has had ONE draft for the Canucks and a whole month to prepare for it with his new staff. People pushing the panic button are ridiculous!! Give a GM five years of drafting and signing to judge him.
- LeftCoaster

THs is what I'm saying. He hasn't even been here a full calendar year.

I'm not ready to call JB a failure but to me the little things he does just goes against the odds and logic. It's those little things that annoy me.

- Signing Cederholm(I can live with this)
- Sbisa contract(agent said it was an easy negotiation)
- Paid a pretty high price for Pedan who was in the ECHL at that time
- Calgary GM said offer for Sven was by far the best they received(but the trade still looks good)
- Miller contract(he wanted to play out West and yet the Canucks still overpaid)
- Gave up Garrison for a pretty reasonable price
- Vey trade sucks so far


He seems like a guy who will overpay unnecessarily and isn't worried about it.
- Nucker101

Agree with pretty much everything here. The worst signings by far, are Miller and Sbisa (how does it look when the actual agent says it was an easy negotiation? and the same goes for Miller). I know it's only been a year and I'm sure there is a plan in place; however, I don't like the fact that he's already made two - what I would call - fairly substantial errors - as noted. And the third one (not so glaring but not very astute either - giving away Garrison - who is a much better player than Sbisa is or perhaps ever will be ( let's hope he proves me/us wrong, though).

And I don't believe there is a comparison to a younger Bieksa (Bieksa is still currently better than Sbisa, even if he is getting long in the tooth and has lost a step - and a million dollar difference in contracts is fairly minimal these days)

As far as Vey goes, he definitely hasn't impressed, although I'll give him another year in order to properly assess him.

The Canucks "system" is so void of anything mentionable it's shocking, with the exception of the past two years. They try to draft skill in the later rounds, they miss and get poop on, they try to draft some size because we've been pushed around for ten years, they get poop on, they try to draft over-age players, they miss they, they get poop on....blah blah blah.

Benning has had ONE draft for the Canucks and a whole month to prepare for it with his new staff. People pushing the panic button are ridiculous!! Give a GM five years of drafting and signing to judge him.
- LeftCoaster

5 years!

The Canucks "system" is so void of anything mentionable it's shocking, with the exception of the past two years. They try to draft skill in the later rounds, they miss and get poop on, they try to draft some size because we've been pushed around for ten years, they get poop on, they try to draft over-age players, they miss they, they get poop on....blah blah blah.

Benning has had ONE draft for the Canucks and a whole month to prepare for it with his new staff. People pushing the panic button are ridiculous!! Give a GM five years of drafting and signing to judge him.
- LeftCoaster

You will probably have to post this at least once a week over the summer.

I am not surprised one bit with the return for Garrisson . That is the going price in trades for mediocre safe players. Bieksa will only get a second and Higgins maybe a third at best.

If you want new personnel on your roster then you need to be willing to take a haircut.

I do believe Edler Hamhuis and Vrbata are the only tradable assets that could bring higher than a second rounder.sedins are off the table I am guessing.
- VANTEL

I guess I disagree that a 2nd is a going price for top 4 D.

Kyle Quincey got a 1st and a prospect
Sekera got a 1st and a prospect
Cobourn got a 1st, 3rd and Radko Gudas

I agree that Bieksa and Higgins best cast scenerio is a 2nd and 3rd.

But it is sad that Benning paid a 2nd and a 3rd to acquire guys with big question marks in Vey (turned out better than I expected) and Pedan (still a long ways away), but has received (Garrison) or will likely receive less or the same for proven players.