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Edler works well with Tanev, but I agree that if he's asked to carry a pairing, it doesn't end well and I feel like Tanev is the better player and probably our best d-man. I wouldn't be too sad if Edler was dealt but Benning has a hard-on for big d-men.
Hamhuis is still good, he played with poop as his D partners all year long and still played like a top 4 d-man.
Th rest can go (frank) themselves. - Nucker101
I get that you don't like Sbisa , lord knows we hear about it daily. That is fine everyone is entitled to their opinion. The thing that gets me is you rave about Tanev and Edler. Edler has been in the league for years but needs Tanev otherwise he might not be as good. Really? No red flags with that statement?
The top pairing that your raving about had a combined 10 goals , 51 pts, probably about 120 hits combined and 0 fights.
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I get that you don't like Sbisa , lord knows we hear about it daily. That is fine everyone is entitled to their opinion. The thing that gets me is you rave about Tanev and Edler. Edler has been in the league for years but needs Tanev otherwise he might not be as good. Really? No red flags with that statement?
The top pairing that your raving about had a combined 10 goals , 51 pts, probably about 120 hits combined and 0 fights.
When that is your best it explains everything about why this team is below par. - VANTEL
Why not just look at the defence as an entire unit, and say it lick's sack? |
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Six Million Dollar Man - LeftCoaster
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Atleast explain you prik. |
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Why not just look at the defence as an entire unit, and say it lick's sack? - VanHockeyGuy
It does indeed. Belcher said last blog . Tanev and Dillon are a push. In what universe is that? I take Dillon every time.
Nucker sits and female doges about Sbisa but says nothing about a guy getting 4.6 mil with 2 goals and 50 hits. I forgot he plays the position well. Yahoooooo.
No one (frank)en hits on this team or scores but blame the newest member for everything, even though we have had these problems for years. |
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Atleast explain you prik. - vancity787
It's from a t.v. show way back in 1877 (electricity had just been invented). Man, six million dollars just doesn't go that far these days, though lol. In todays superhero market, $6 million would only cover the cockle region |
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It does indeed. Belcher said last blog . Tanev and Dillon are a push. In what universe is that? I take Dillon every time.
Nucker sits and female doges about Sbisa but says nothing about a guy getting 4.6 mil with 2 goals and 50 hits. I forgot he plays the position well. Yahoooooo.
No one (frank)en hits on this team or scores but blame the newest member for everything, even though we have had these problems for years. - VANTEL
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It's from a t.v. show way back in 1877 (electricity had just been invented). Man, six million dollars just doesn't go that far these days, though lol. In todays superhero market, $6 million would only cover the cockle region - Zogg
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Dillon =
Sbisa =
Not sure why you seem to have a hard on for this guy. Yes, he hits, that is all - and usually when that happens he gets out of position which results in a turnover and an odd-man rush the other way. It's not only the skill level, but it just seems like the guy doesn't have any hockey sense.
This deal is almost - no it IS - as bad as the Miller signing. Why did they have to rush it? what was the urgency? were there countless other teams standing in line to get this guy? Benning's two big mistakes thus far - Miller and Sbisa. Let's hope he's done for the decade. |
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Here...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071054/ - LeftCoaster
and don't forget the female version that came along shortly thereafter:
 ahhhhhh, timeless television, indeed
(I think she was only $3.5 million, though (it seems even in the superhero world there is female inequity being practiced lol). Oh, and most of that coin was spent on the high-tech boobage implants  - yes, they turn into a fully stocked 10 person flotation device) |
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Dillon =
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Not sure why you seem to have a hard on for this guy. Yes, he hits, that is all - and usually when that happens he gets out of position which results in a turnover and an odd-man rush the other way. It's not only the skill level, but it just seems like the guy doesn't have any hockey sense.
This deal is almost - no it IS - as bad as the Miller signing. Why did they have to rush it? what was the urgency? were there countless other teams standing in line to get this guy? Benning's two big mistakes thus far - Miller and Sbisa. Let's hope he's done for the decade. - Zogg
I know for myself I am not high on Sbisa but I am not going to blame him for the season. He is an easy choice for whipping boy. He played with Sh1t players all year . In the 7-4 loss against the Flames game 7 he and Bieksa were on for one goal , Edler Tanev two goals and Hamhuis Weber 4 goals , but all fingers point back to Sbisa .
I suggest overhaul the D including him . The entire D core is soft and can't score. Not just Sbisa |
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Classic mid 70's television  - LeftCoaster
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I know for myself I am not high on Sbisa but I am not going to blame him for the season. He is an easy choice for whipping boy. He played with Sh1t players all year . In the 7-4 loss against the Flames against Cgy game 7 he and Bieksa were on for one goal , Edler Tanev two goals and Hamhuis Weber 4 goals , but all fingers point back to Sbisa .
I suggest overhaul the D including him . The entire D ore is soft and can't score. Not just Sbisa - VANTEL
I'm not blaming him directly for any particular losses or trying to single him out as the only problem that we have on the blueline (as you noted, we need more toughness and stability back there in general). I'm merely providing an evaluation of what I feel his game was about, and that game was simply not good enough to be on any of the 2nd or 3rd pairings.
And I"m also not looking at a small sample size such as a few games or what have you. He was inconsistent, at best, and at worst a bit of a disaster waiting to happen - pretty much the whole year. What really irks me, however, is the contract they signed him for (I could probably live with his mistakes and hopefully chalk it up to continued growing pains, given he's still fairly young but the term and money just makes his play that much more glaring).
And again, what was the urgency? they could have waited and probably signed him to half that amount. It was just a bonehead signing any way you look at it. I hope we don't see any more of these types of hasty moves from Benning going forward. |
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I know for myself I am not high on Sbisa but I am not going to blame him for the season. He is an easy choice for whipping boy. He played with Sh1t players all year . In the 7-4 loss against the Flames game 7 he and Bieksa were on for one goal , Edler Tanev two goals and Hamhuis Weber 4 goals , but all fingers point back to Sbisa .
I suggest overhaul the D including him . The entire D core is soft and can't score. Not just Sbisa - VANTEL
I like him, he's a big guy, still young. (frank)s up? yep. That being said if he punched a guy in the head who was taking liberties in the crease I would be happier. My call - Incomplete for now (on a short leash) |
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I'm not blaming him directly for any particular losses or trying to single him out as the only problem that we have on the blueline (as you noted, we need more toughness and stability back there). I'm merely providing an evaluation of what I feel his game was about, and that game was simply not good enough to be on any of the 2nd or 3rd pairings.
And I"m also not looking at a small sample size such as a few games or what have you. He was inconsistent, at best, and at worst a bit of a disaster waiting to happen - pretty much the whole year. What really irks me, however, is the contract they signed him for. Again, what was the urgency? they could have waited and probably signed him to half that amount. It was just a bonehead signing any way you look at it. I hope we don't see any more of these types of hasty moves from Benning going forward. - Zogg
Neither should Bieksa.
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Is Andrey Pedan a Brenden Dillon in waiting? |
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Is Pedan a Brenden Dillon in waiting? - LeftCoaster
Nice one old man! |
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I'm not blaming him directly for any losses. I'm merely providing an evaluation of what I feel his game was about, and that game was simply not good enough to be on any of the 2nd or 3rd pairings.
And I"m also not looking at a small sample size such as a few games or what have you. He was inconsistent, at best, and at worst a bit of a disaster waiting to happen - pretty much the whole year. What really irks me, however, is the contract they signed him for. Again, what was the urgency? they could have waited and probably signed to half that amount. It was just a bonehead signing any way you look at it. I hope we don't see any more of these types of hasty moves from Benning going forward. - Zogg
Again I will say , I am not in his corner waiving a flag , but Canucks problems run much deeper that Sbisa.
This is a soft ,unproductive , uncreative and predictable DCore. You want to start winning then start at the top and clean shop where the big money and big ice time is being spent.
Not one guy on this core can move the puck (skating) by himself regularly. There is no big accurate shot. There is no big hitter , there is no fighter.
There was no urgency but they also gave another D guy who eats up more minutes ,with less goals and less hits a million more. |
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Neither should Bieksa. - VanHockeyGuy
I agree, Bieksa's time has probably come. I've been a fairly big fan but it's obvious that he's lost a step or two (not that his style was ever about skating, anyway, but it's that much more obvious now that he's gotten older). I could still see him being used on the third pairing and PK, but we'll have to wait and see how things pan out with respect to the whole NTC issue and what sort of moves the Canucks are able to make accordingly |
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Again I will say , I am not in his corner waiving a flag , but Canucks problems run much deeper that Sbisa.
This is a soft ,unproductive , uncreative and predictable DCore. You want to start winning then start at the top and clean shop where the big money and big ice time is being spent.
Not one guy on this core can move the puck (skating) by himself regularly. There is no big accurate shot. There is no big hitter , there is no fighter. - VANTEL
God I hate the Leafs, but they will be better than us by 2017. |
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I agree, Bieksa's time has probably come. I've been a fairly big fan but it's obvious that he's lost a step or two (not that his style was ever about skating, anyway, but it's that much more obvious now that he's gotten older). I could still see him being used on the third pairing and PK, but we'll have to wait and see how things pan out with respect to the whole NTC issue and what sort of moves the Canucks are able to make accordingly - Zogg
Copy and paste from a recent Vantel comment.
"I suggest overhaul the D including him . The entire D core is soft and can't score. Not just Sbisa "
That is all. |
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God I hate the Leafs, but they will be better than us by 2017. - Grumpy13
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Only because they screwed JB on the Kesler deal. - Grumpy13
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