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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 6 @ 10:09 AM ET
I was gonna say, I won't play my ps4 for a few days, and I turn it on and 15 different things have been installed/ updated and I'm sitting here like, what kinda magic is this??
- benjichronic


Pretty soon, it'll play the games for you, too.

Welcome to the future.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 6 @ 10:09 AM ET
I still have my PS2. It's not in use at the moment, but should I ever feel the need to play NHL 2003...
- tangent_man

Psh, that's nothing. I've been rocking the Game Boy Pocket lately. If anybody has a spare Blades of Steel gameboy cart laying around, send 'er here.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 6 @ 10:09 AM ET
I watched the entire game last night. For the few minutes he was on the ice, Timonen actually played fine. Sure he's no spring chicken and basically missing the entire season did him no favors either, but the Hawks really are that damn deep.
- BiggE

I didn't watch last night's game. They've tried to give him more minutes, which is why they are giving him few minutes now.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 6 @ 10:10 AM ET
Psh, that's nothing. I've been rocking the Game Boy Pocket lately. If anybody has a spare Blades of Steel gameboy cart laying around, send 'er here.
- BulliesPhan87




BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 6 @ 10:11 AM ET
Pretty soon, it'll play the games for you, too.

Welcome to the future.

- tangent_man

p sure the latest Mario games literally have a "play the game for you" feature

EDIT: correction, litrily
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 6 @ 10:11 AM ET
Sensors around the circumference of the puck
Sensors along the length of the back of the goal line

- Scoob



They would only need to put a sensor in the middle of the puck.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 10:11 AM ET
Psh, that's nothing. I've been rocking the Game Boy Pocket lately. If anybody has a spare Blades of Steel gameboy cart laying around, send 'er here.
- BulliesPhan87


http://www.ebay.com/itm/B...ested-Works-/351132781846
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 10:13 AM ET
They would only need to put a sensor in the middle of the puck.

- MBFlyerfan


No, they would need sensors at 5 distinct point on the puck due to the differing orientation the puck could cross the line with (assuming the sensors are a single point).

Edit: FWIW, the goal line would have detectors, not sensors. You need a transmitter and receiver, not 2 transmitters.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

May 6 @ 10:13 AM ET
Pretty soon, it'll play the games for you, too.

Welcome to the future.

- tangent_man



Maybe then I can stop losing every (frank)ing time I play nhl15. That game is so (frank)ed. I play with the preds w/ rinne in net... he gives up 4 goals on like 10 shots through 2 periods, I lose by a landslide, I play with the flyers and a much less rated mason, he shuts out the other dude im playing, and I score two goals... one with rinaldo, the other with Giroux or some crap like that. Stupid. Yet that's one of like 3 games I play.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 10:14 AM ET
Maybe then I can stop losing every (frank)ing time I play nhl15. That game is so (frank)ed. I play with the preds w/ rinne in net... he gives up 4 goals on like 10 shots through 2 periods, I lose by a landslide, I play with the flyers and a much less rated mason, he shuts out the other dude im playing, and I score two goals... one with rinaldo, the other with Giroux or some crap like that. Stupid. Yet that's one of like 3 games I play.
- benjichronic


You need to give Shea Weber more minutes.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

May 6 @ 10:16 AM ET
Maybe then I can stop losing every (frank)ing time I play nhl15. That game is so (frank)ed. I play with the preds w/ rinne in net... he gives up 4 goals on like 10 shots through 2 periods, I lose by a landslide, I play with the flyers and a much less rated mason, he shuts out the other dude im playing, and I score two goals... one with rinaldo, the other with Giroux or some crap like that. Stupid. Yet that's one of like 3 games I play.
- benjichronic


Don't even bother with NHL 15. Goddamn biggest joke of a video game ever. Dark Souls is less punishing.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 10:17 AM ET
They would only need to put a sensor in the middle of the puck.

- MBFlyerfan


The puck has to completely cross the line so the sensor needs to be around the circumference. I'm sure one can be developed that is a very thin wire that can simply go around the circumference just under the surface of the rubber.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 10:19 AM ET
No, they would need sensors at 5 distinct point
- jmatchett383


5? I was thinking just two. Around the circumference at the top of the puck and around the circumference at the bottom of the puck.



Edit: FWIW, the goal line would have detectors, not sensors. You need a transmitter and receiver, not 2 transmitters.


Thanks, nerd.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

May 6 @ 10:19 AM ET
You need to give Shea Weber more minutes.
- jmatchett383


Another gripe about that game, shea weber is the best rated defenseman, every time that mofo gets the puck I shoot it with him..... but maybe on 10 shot attempts through a game, maybe one or two get on goal? da fuq is with that sheeeeiit.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 6 @ 10:19 AM ET
Don't even bother with NHL 15. Goddamn biggest joke of a video game ever. Dark Souls is less punishing.
- ThirdEye

Interesting comparison. Has anybody won a game of NHL15 using a rock band controller yet?
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

May 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
Interesting comparison. Has anybody won a game of NHL15 using a rock band controller yet?
- BulliesPhan87



BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 6 @ 10:23 AM ET

- benjichronic

for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSCy4Bc0uMU
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 6 @ 10:24 AM ET
No, they would need sensors at 5 distinct point on the puck due to the differing orientation the puck could cross the line with (assuming the sensors are a single point).

Edit: FWIW, the goal line would have detectors, not sensors. You need a transmitter and receiver, not 2 transmitters.

- jmatchett383



Yes you are correct, I wasn't thinking of that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 10:28 AM ET
5? I was thinking just two. Around the circumference at the top of the puck and around the circumference at the bottom of the puck.
- Scoob


You can't have a single sensor used as a band. Sensors are treated like single-point instruments despite them having a volume. One any part of the sensor "goes off" the entire sensor does.

The issue is that the puck can cross the goal line in an infinite number of orientations. If you put one in the middle and one at 4 corners 90 degrees to each other (say, maybe 1/8" from the outside of the puck, for instance) and then put a detector across a plane (again, 1/8" from the back of the goal line to ensure the entire puck has crossed), that would give you a guaranteed goal, but the use of those sensors would have to be coupled with the puck geometry as well.

Actually, it won't work. You'd need 9, because the puck could (theoretically) enter the net where the circular face of the puck is perpendicular to the goal line. At that point, the thickness of the puck comes into play. However, if you put the sensors into the middle of the puck thickness, and then change the 1/8" example from the outside to half the puck thickness (as well as the distance from the back of the goal line to the detector) I supposed that may work.

Yeah, I've tried to do this before.


Thanks, nerd.
- Scoob


Engineer, it's built into me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
Yes you are correct, I wasn't thinking of that.

- MBFlyerfan


You can do it, but you need some guidelines. The exterior sensors aren't conclusive if the puck is flat on the ice (for instance, if they're at 45 degrees to the goal line, they will cross the detector line before the extent of the puck at 45 degrees to themselves), so then the only point that matters is the middle detector getting to a second detector located half the puck diameter further back

But then you have a bigger problem between that and the puck turning "up" 90 degrees, where every point in between must be figured out with puck orientation. The, if the puck turns in the other direction (spinning on edge), you could have the 4 sensors go off, but if it's spinning on the goal line, the middle one won't, unless it's at an angle in the first direction.

It would be a ridiculously tricky physics programming exercise, and may have to include using a camera to determine the puck orientation along 2 planes.

Edit: I apologize for taking this thought way too seriously.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
You can do it, but you need some guidelines. The exterior sensors aren't conclusive if the puck is flat on the ice (for instance, if they're at 45 degrees to the goal line, they will cross the detector line before the extent of the puck at 45 degrees to themselves), so then the only point that matters is the middle detector getting to a second detector located half the puck diameter further back

But then you have a bigger problem between that and the puck turning "up" 90 degrees, where every point in between must be figured out with puck orientation. The, if the puck turns in the other direction (spinning on edge), you could have the 4 sensors go off, but if it's spinning on the goal line, the middle one won't, unless it's at an angle in the first direction.

It would be a ridiculously tricky physics programming exercise, and may have to include using a camera to determine the puck orientation along 2 planes.

Edit: I apologize for taking this thought way too seriously.

- jmatchett383



Not at all. I am a Network Engineer so this kind of thought process is stimulating to me. It helps to alleviate my sometimes extensive boredom brought on by my small budget and well constructed network......
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

May 6 @ 10:47 AM ET
for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSCy4Bc0uMU
- BulliesPhan87


That is 100% ridiculous lmao. I feel like I'd get extremely frustrated playing with a rock band controller lol
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

May 6 @ 11:00 AM ET
(frank) them.
- hammarby31



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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

May 6 @ 11:01 AM ET
maybe they could replace the whole net with some sort of giant camera
- BulliesPhan87



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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 6 @ 11:04 AM ET
You can't have a single sensor used as a band. Sensors are treated like single-point instruments despite them having a volume. One any part of the sensor "goes off" the entire sensor does.

The issue is that the puck can cross the goal line in an infinite number of orientations. If you put one in the middle and one at 4 corners 90 degrees to each other (say, maybe 1/8" from the outside of the puck, for instance) and then put a detector across a plane (again, 1/8" from the back of the goal line to ensure the entire puck has crossed), that would give you a guaranteed goal, but the use of those sensors would have to be coupled with the puck geometry as well.

Actually, it won't work. You'd need 9, because the puck could (theoretically) enter the net where the circular face of the puck is perpendicular to the goal line. At that point, the thickness of the puck comes into play. However, if you put the sensors into the middle of the puck thickness, and then change the 1/8" example from the outside to half the puck thickness (as well as the distance from the back of the goal line to the detector) I supposed that may work.

Yeah, I've tried to do this before.


- jmatchett383


Thanks


Engineer, it's built into me.


My condolences

j/k I have two daughters majoring in engineering right now (mechanical)
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