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EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

May 4 @ 6:21 PM ET
I don't. Draft for need. Look at Oilers!
- VANTEL


Those are their only good players...it's the rest of the team who sucks. Hall/RNH/Eberle/Yakupov. Ryan Murray wouldn't do poop with that team.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 4 @ 6:22 PM ET
I don't. Draft for need. Look at Oilers!
- VANTEL


I wanna be like the oilers so we can draft Nolan Patrick
EagleNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.26.2014

May 4 @ 6:24 PM ET
I wanna be like the oilers so we can draft Nolan Patrick
- manvanfan

He had a fantastic year for a kid that young.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 4 @ 6:28 PM ET

http://www.hockeyfeed.com...rospect-a-disappointment/

Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 4 @ 6:31 PM ET
http://www.hockeyfeed.com/report-team-executive-calls-coveted-top-prospect-a-disappointment/


- hillbillydeluxe


Good grief, I'm sure that will help with his confidence
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 4 @ 6:37 PM ET
Good grief, I'm sure that will help with his confidence
- Zogg


Wondering if his commitment and effort is in question and this is some sort of wakeup call...

Trade target? Similar to Sven?
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

May 4 @ 6:38 PM ET
Good grief, I'm sure that will help with his confidence
- Zogg



Someone in the comments mentioned that he was referring to Mantha's season, and not him as a player.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 4 @ 6:40 PM ET
Someone in the comments mentioned that he was referring to Mantha's season, and not him as a player.
- Gullzy



Ahhh, seems like kind of a mixed message, though "we had such high hopes for him"

It may be a wake up call as well, as Hillbilly pointed out
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 4 @ 6:41 PM ET
Ahhh, seems like kind of a mixed message, though "we had such high hopes for him"

It may be a wake up call as well, as Hillbilly pointed out

- Zogg


maybe we can trade Jensen for him...
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 4 @ 6:41 PM ET
Wondering if his commitment and effort is in question and this is some sort of wakeup call...

Trade target? Similar to Sven?

- hillbillydeluxe


In a heartbeat - the kid is just that, a kid, he's still going to be a good one, me thinks.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 4 @ 6:42 PM ET
maybe we can trade Jensen for him...
- hillbillydeluxe


I like it, done and done
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 4 @ 6:44 PM ET
He had a fantastic year for a kid that young.
- EagleNuck

and that size lol.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 4 @ 6:48 PM ET
maybe we can trade Jensen for him...
- hillbillydeluxe


I would trade for him in an instant. Even give up Kassian for him just to dump salary. Add him with Gaunce and shinkaruk, let them all grow together.

Junior stats inflated because he played in the Q. He probably would have been more of a 40g 30 a guy in the whl or ohl.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 4 @ 7:13 PM ET
I would trade for him in an instant. Even give up Kassian for him just to dump salary. Add him with Gaunce and shinkaruk, let them all grow together.

Junior stats inflated because he played in the Q. He probably would have been more of a 40g 30 a guy in the whl or ohl.

- manvanfan

I would give them Sbisa and Bieksa for him
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 4 @ 7:15 PM ET
I like it, done and done
- Zogg

How about Bieska?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 4 @ 7:16 PM ET
I would give them Sbisa and Bieksa for him
- VANTEL


lol that's a lot of crap salary to eat.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 4 @ 7:17 PM ET
lol that's a lot of crap salary to eat.
- manvanfan

He sounds like Tinordi 2.0
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 4 @ 7:21 PM ET
He sounds like Tinordi 2.0
- VANTEL

Franzen Mantha for Bieksa Sbisa
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 4 @ 7:23 PM ET
He sounds like Tinordi 2.0
- VANTEL

Jarred Tinordi will be an ok to good player one day. When he realizes he doesn't have to fight every night to be a good player he'll be better off. Not unlike Pedan. Just be hard to play against, that's what'll keep him in the show.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 4 @ 7:24 PM ET
I would trade for him in an instant. Even give up Kassian for him just to dump salary. Add him with Gaunce and shinkaruk, let them all grow together.

Junior stats inflated because he played in the Q. He probably would have been more of a 40g 30 a guy in the whl or ohl.

- manvanfan



This is largely a myth, I can't seem to find the article that I read awhile about that showing that the numbers are in fact pretty identical in the last 15 years.

I did find some examples although they are less recent.

in 2010 the QMJHL averaged 6.95 goals per game, WHL 6.53 and the OHL 6.95.

These stats can be seen here.

http://dropyourgloves.com...eagueGoals.aspx?League=20

2013 - http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=1598585
WHL- 6.64
OHL- 6.76
QMJHL- 6.98
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 4 @ 7:32 PM ET
Burrows for Tinordi
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 4 @ 7:39 PM ET
This is largely a myth, I can't seem to find the article that I read awhile about that showing that the numbers are in fact pretty identical in the last 15 years.

I did find some examples although they are less recent.

in 2010 the QMJHL averaged 6.95 goals per game, WHL 6.53 and the OHL 6.95.

These stats can be seen here.

http://dropyourgloves.com...eagueGoals.aspx?League=20

2013 - http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=1598585
WHL- 6.64
OHL- 6.76
QMJHL- 6.98

- belcherbd

I don't doubt they leagues score about the same but they don't play much for defence in the Q but the goaltending is usually spectacular. Reason why a 50 goal scorer was taken 20th overall. Guys that scored 100 in the Q aren't usually top 10 picks unlike the other 2 leagues.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
Burrows for Tinordi
- LeftCoaster

2 years too late.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 4 @ 7:43 PM ET
2 years too late.
- VANTEL

They're probably not too high on him plus they get some size with Burrows and he's French? Just a thought.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 4 @ 7:44 PM ET
2 years too late.
- VANTEL

Bite a million of burrows salary to sell for at least something.
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