I've spent $20 on worse.
- CubanBuffet

Don't get me wrong it could be a very good wine , but like Zogg just said I am a cheap bastard

She says some bottles of wine are worth it. oh man she's so young.
- manvanfan

I agree with her and I'm not so young.

Eastern conference is waaaaay slower. We were discussing it today and most thought the ducks will go 16-0, but I think the western final opponent will win 1 or 2 games.
- I-own_da-Northwest

I don't think Tampa is slow at all.

2015 line up
Daniel henrik JV
Lucic bonino Kassian
Burrows horvat Hansen
Dorsett McCann and someone.

Nolan Patrick with 1g 2 a tonight. 2017 tank at all costs. next crosby.

Seattle crowds growing to potential riot tonight. I think they are trying to prove to Bettman they are NHL worthy

Seattle crowds growing to potential riot tonight. I think they are trying to prove to Bettman they are NHL worthy
- VANTEL

On a bit of a separate note, wouldn't it be great to see Seattle get a franchise? benefit both cities in terms of gate attendance, as so many fans would make the trips across the border (well, at least going south). Perhaps go with their Jr. team namesake - Thunderbirds. I can just see Bettman drooling already at the possibilities (not to mention the franchise fee if it doesn't involve a current team moving)

Did you say a 1st, 2nd, prospect and backup goalie for Vrbata???
OMG..........

Did you say a 1st, 2nd, prospect and backup goalie for Vrbata???
OMG..........
- mr.sir

Almost as funny as last year or any year Ekblad a first and a prospect for Dion

Seattle crowds growing to potential riot tonight. I think they are trying to prove to Bettman they are NHL worthy
- VANTEL

Seattle is a smaller city then Winnipeg isn't it?

Seattle is a smaller city then Winnipeg isn't it?
- manvanfan

No . 3.6 including metro

Well Jake Virtanen had a pretty pedestrian year.


Hopefully he has a big off-season training regimen in order.

No . 3.6 including metro
- VANTEL

must be a lot of surrounding places around it?

Well Jake Virtanen had a pretty pedestrian year.


Hopefully he has a big off-season training regimen in order.



- classic321

wow hater…..

Well Jake Virtanen had a pretty pedestrian year.


Hopefully he has a big off-season training regimen in order.



- classic321

If he was Utica eligible , that's where he would be.

must be a lot of surrounding places around it?
- manvanfan

City of Seattle is actually quite similar in size to Winnipeg (around 700,000 people) but then the outlying areas contain much larger populace than Winnipeg. Seattle, Tacoma, Bellevue all inclusive would be around $3+ million people.

http://vladgotlib.com/circular/
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Very addicting.

Sorry bout that.

I agree some trades are needed, but I think if WD can be shown to put horvat on 2nd line keepign vrbata would be useful to further develope him. Get lucic somehow and go
sedins-kassian/jv
lucic-horvat-vrbata
burrows-bonino-hansen
kenins/higgisn-whoever-dorsett

wow hater…..
- manvanfan

Why it's the truth.

Well Jake Virtanen had a pretty pedestrian year.


Hopefully he has a big off-season training regimen in order.



- classic321

Bust.

JV comin off surgery to his shoulder.
Just a kid n y'all can relax lol

Give him 2-3 at most n see what gives

Its the off season... last one out, turn off the lights.

I say trade Bieksa, Kassian & Miller if able; SJ?, & keep Vrbata. Let Richardson & Matthias walk as UFA's. We keep building the prospect pipeline & we start integrating the young players we have slowly. We can't just go for a total rebuild we have the Sedin's & Hansen signed for 3 more years, Burrows, Higgins, Miller & Bonino for 2. Edler has 4 more years & Tanev just signed for 4. That is essentially the core of the Canucks today.

The Canucks have 17 players signed at a 65.025 mil cap hit approximately. 10 forwards, 5 Dman & 2 goalies. Assuming a cap of 71.5 mil that leaves 6 & change to get to the 23 man roster limit which they can do internally by resigning their 6 RFA's Vey, Kenins, Baertschi, McMillian, Weber & Stanton. None are going to see any real raises & all will most likely have to accept their qualifying offers, essentially 10% raises over what they made last season. That's essentially 6 mil. Add Clendening who is also an RFA at about a mil & that gets you to 23 players tight up against the cap, possibly even a little over. The loss of Capgeek makes figuring out the exact # far more confusing.

The Canucks will need some wiggle room & again I say let it be Bieksa & Kassian that move, unless you can move Miller. Bieksa should garner a reasonable return & if you can move Miller I say do so, that would really solve the cap issue & keep or trade Bieksa as well. SJ would be a great fit for Miller who wants to be on the west coast to be close to his wife in LA. SJ doesn't have a goalie so maybe they can find a fit. There was a number of teams interested in Kassian but at what return & his back issue may cause trepidation from teams until he plays consistently for a bit to show there are no long term issues.

I don't trade Vrbata. Goal scorers of his ilk don't come easy or cheap generally & at 5 million he's great value & the Canucks should be in a position to resign him when the time comes if the other prospects aren't ready to step up. If he moves, do so at next seasons trade deadline if necessary & we have another solution in place. Other than the Sedin's he's our only real top 6 player unless you think Burrows, Higgins, Bonino & Hansen are really top 6 players? Bonino & Burrows soft top 6's at best. If Higgins & Hansen are playing top 6 minutes at forward that's not a very strong team. As 3rd liners their awesome & if they have to step into the top 6 occasionally due to injuries fine but other than that they shouldn't see power playtime on the 1st or 2nd units moving forward.

I would like to see the kids integrated into more important roles, specifically Vey, Horvat, Baertschi & Clendening. I see a line up something like this.

Sedin, Sedin, Burrows.
Baertschi, Bonino, Vrbata.
Higgins, Horvat, Hansen.
Kennins, Vey, Dorsett.

Spare forward Kassian unless traded or McMillian.

Edler, Sbisa. I'm not a Sbisa fan & hate his contract, 3 years at a cap hit of 3.6.
Hamhuis, Weber. I'm not a Weber fan either.
Bieksa/Stanton; if Bieksa is traded, Clendening. I like Stanton & would prefer to see him play over Sbisa. He doesn't hit or block shots like Sbisa but he doesn't look lost out there like Sbisa, he just does his job. If he goes unnoticed in a positive or negative way, perfect, he only needs to play 12 to 15 minutes.

Spares. Corrado, Clendening or Stanton depending upon whether Beiksa is in the mix, rotating in & out as required.

If Benning can move anyone of Bieksa, Miller & or Kassian it opens up options. If Beiksa moves then really we need to find a suitable replacement. I support doing everything you can to move all 3 & going & trying to get a solid younger top 4 Dman. A Dman about 25ish with in or around 300 games of NHL experience. I would love a young Dman like a Spurgeon or Ellis.

I would like to see the 1st PP unit the Sedin's with Vrbata, Edler & Vey on the points. The 2nd unit Horvat, Baertschi, Burrows with Tanev & Clendening on the points.

The other good young prospects go back to junior or the minors & are integrated in slowly over the season as injuries & opportunities dictate.

Thoughts from the bench.

2015 line up
Daniel henrik JV
Lucic bonino Kassian
Burrows horvat Hansen
Dorsett McCann and someone.
- manvanfan

He's our best prosepect.

He's our best prosepect.
- vancity787

Someone has the assests van needs.

He's our best prosepect.
- vancity787