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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 3:39 PM ET
Trevor was pleased with the 101 points. Missing the playoff's is going "backwards" plus they want the revenue. They also want to get younger, and are usually picking in the bottom 1/3 of the seeding (when they have a picks). JB better be a (frank)ing Genius. It will be a long process looking for diamonds in the rough.
- VanHockeyGuy


Let's be honest, this is all about revenue. Nothing more. Nothing less.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 30 @ 3:39 PM ET
Oh this franchise...
- bloatedmosquito


At least I have the Seahawks, they don't even have a #1 pick and will still have a great draft!
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 30 @ 3:41 PM ET
I'd rather have a first than Eriksson and #44, but that's just me.
- Nucker101

Me too, but management isn't on board with mailing it in
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 30 @ 3:42 PM ET
Stoll is a UFA, LA gives VAN fits, SJ & LA cupboards are full, LA is built for the playoffs. Expect EDM to give VAN trouble next year.
- VanHockeyGuy

I don't know how full either of their cupboards are. I don't think they have the best prospect pools. And beating VAN isn't going to get LA into the playoffs. Maybe they're built for the playoffs but they're not built for the regular season. They aren't getting better year by year so I'm not going to pencil them in as a playoff team next year
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
At least I have the Seahawks, they don't even have a #1 pick and will still have a great draft!
- VanHockeyGuy



I believe a few here last year said Paul Richardson > Jordan Matthews
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
With Nicholson & Chiarelli they have very solid management team, more experienced than Vancouver's hands down, lots of draft picks (2 firsts). Trending upward.
- VanHockeyGuy


They have been "trending upward" for the past 6 years and just won the lottery (again) Nicholson and Chirelli are good but for Edmonton to compete their asset management is going to have to be amazing.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Apr 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
O'Connor reminds me of Cloutier. I don't see him signing here for one, and if he does, I have zero expectations for him.

Weber on the other hand.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
Me too, but management isn't on board with mailing it in
- bezz44

I don't want them to mail it in either, unless they trade the twins, but what I do want to see is an injection of new faces into the line-up. Which happened this year, but I'd like to see it continue. If it doesn't, then we have issues!!

Daniel Henrik Burrows
Higgins Bonino Vrbata

If this is our top six again next year - I'm done!!!
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Apr 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
If you really want a reason to cheer for Calgary, the best one is....

Kelser plays for the ducks!
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
I don't know how full either of their cupboards are. I don't think they have the best prospect pools. And beating VAN isn't going to get LA into the playoffs. Maybe they're built for the playoffs but they're not built for the regular season. They aren't getting better year by year so I'm not going to pencil them in as a playoff team next year
- bezz44



There is no point trying to figure out the hierarchy of the league for next season. There is a list of teams that are probably looking a significant roster shake-ups:

Toronto
Boston
Edmonton
San Jose

and possibly:

St. Louis
Pittsburgh
Detroit
Philly


VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
I believe a few here last year said Paul Richardson > Jordan Matthews
- Nucker101


Richardson was hurt, needs to have a good season this year.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Apr 30 @ 3:49 PM ET
If you really want a reason to cheer for Calgary, the best one is....

Kelser plays for the ducks!

- Lostinarink


I'd love to see Kesler hoist the Cup. I bet he'd bring it back to Vancouver to show us all.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 30 @ 3:50 PM ET
I don't want them to mail it in either, unless they trade the twins, but what I do want to see is an injection of new faces into the line-up. Which happened this year, but I'd like to see it continue. If it doesn't, then we have issues!!

Daniel Henrik Burrows
Higgins Bonino Vrbata

If this is our top six again next year - I'm done!!!

- LeftCoaster

It will be ugly, I don't want to see that either. If that is what it looks like to start out with, but we see more youth in the bottom 6 I won't throw in the towel as long as opportunities for guys like Kassian and Bo to have a bigger role are there. I think Burrows will stay with the twins which I don't have a problem with, because he is realistically a 3rd liner unless he is with the twins. I think Bo will start as the 3C and work his way into the 2 spot. Higgins I hope will be gone and I think Sven will take that spot
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 30 @ 3:50 PM ET
I'd love to see Kesler hoist the Cup. I bet he'd bring it back to Vancouver to show us all.
- Scooby_Doo


Closest we will ever get to it.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 30 @ 3:50 PM ET
Let's be honest, this is all about revenue. Nothing more. Nothing less.
- bloatedmosquito

They had what, three home playoff games, that's three million dollars in playoff money total....ballpark.

I'm not sure it's really about revenue, because, if they continue to roll out the same poop core of top six players behind the Sedins there's going to be less and less bums in the seats during the regular season, which hurts their bottom line.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
There is no point trying to figure out the hierarchy of the league for next season. There is a list of teams that are probably looking a significant roster shake-ups:

Toronto
Boston
Edmonton
San Jose

and possibly:

St. Louis
Pittsburgh
Detroit
Philly

- fiveandagame

Completely agree. Every year now we see a ton of turnover WRT standings, and I don't think next year will be any different. None of this year's playoff teams are safe next year
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
It will be ugly, I don't want to see that either. If that is what it looks like to start out with, but we see more youth in the bottom 6 I won't throw in the towel as long as opportunities for guys like Kassian and Bo to have a bigger role are there. I think Burrows will stay with the twins which I don't have a problem with, because he is realistically a 3rd liner unless he is with the twins. I think Bo will start as the 3C and work his way into the 2 spot. Higgins I hope will be gone and I think Sven will take that spot
- bezz44


Yep, Burrow's can sit in the dressing room with the twins playing checkers.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:55 PM ET
I don't want them to mail it in either, unless they trade the twins, but what I do want to see is an injection of new faces into the line-up. Which happened this year, but I'd like to see it continue. If it doesn't, then we have issues!!

Daniel Henrik Burrows
Higgins Bonino Vrbata

If this is our top six again next year - I'm done!!!

- LeftCoaster


It will be interesting to see what the young guys bring to camp. Horvat could push for a second line role. (Although I think the following year would be more realistic.) Baertschi could make a case for himself. Virtanen could turn some heads as well.

If you look at Calgary's top 6 they have a rookie and second year player on their top line and 18 year old Sam Bennett on the second line.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 4:01 PM ET
Richardson was hurt, needs to have a good season this year.
- VanHockeyGuy

Matthews was the better prospect all along, much more complete WR and has the drive to be great, works his ass off. Richardson is a decent prospect but I was surprised that SEA took him at that point of the draft.
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Apr 30 @ 4:01 PM ET
Canucks are happy with the result, they got playoff revenue. Problem here is do you expect LA & SJ to miss the playoffs again? No. These are teams which already have more depth than VAN. Will EDM be as bad as last year? No. Are the playoffs a realistic goal based on the team as it sit's today? No.
- VanHockeyGuy


All the bottom feeders should be better next year: Edmonton, Colorado, Dallas, SJ, LA. Well, maybe not Arizonia

Thing is, that will only make the division far tighter around the 92-96 point range. Normally is takes 96 points to make the playoffs. It was 99 this year, and even at 101 Vancouver was touch and go. It took that many points because of tanking. No tanking and tighter competition means that 96 should get you into the playoffs next year - maybe even 95 or 94 if Arizonia, Buffalo and TO etc don't get blown out too badly.

Bottom line, I dont expect Vancouver to break 100 points again next year, but if they can sneak out 95-96 points, they should be able to score a longshot for the SC. It will be a tight group in that area and some decent teams will unexpectedly fail.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 30 @ 4:01 PM ET
It will be interesting to see what the young guys bring to camp. Horvat could push for a second line role. (Although I think the following year would be more realistic.) Baertschi could make a case for himself. Virtanen could turn some heads as well.

If you look at Calgary's top 6 they have a rookie and second year player on their top line and 18 year old Sam Bennett on the second line.

- fiveandagame

I'd love Virtanen on the 4th line. Throw him out there with Dorsett, just make sure there's a defensively responsible guy out there. More likely though I think someone like Gaunce comes in as 4C, in which case they don't bring in another rookie.
Sedin Sedin Burrows
Sven Bonino Vrbata
Vey Horvat Hansen
Kenins Gaunce Dorsett
Edler Tanev
Hamhuis Weber
Sbisa Corrado
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
It will be interesting to see what the young guys bring to camp. Horvat could push for a second line role. (Although I think the following year would be more realistic.) Baertschi could make a case for himself. Virtanen could turn some heads as well.

If you look at Calgary's top 6 they have a rookie and second year player on their top line and 18 year old Sam Bennett on the second line.

- fiveandagame

They can't go with Bonino as their second line center again, they just can't!!! He had 7 goals in his first 14 games and 8 in the remaining 68 games...you just can't find that acceptable for a second line center. At least I can't.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
Matthews was the better prospect all along, much more complete WR and has the drive to be great, works his ass off. Richardson is a decent prospect but I was surprised that SEA took him at that point of the draft.
- Nucker101


Jimmy Graham Feck the first!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
I'd love Virtanen on the 4th line. Throw him out there with Dorsett, just make sure there's a defensively responsible guy out there. More likely though I think someone like Gaunce comes in as 4C, in which case they don't bring in another rookie.
Sedin Sedin Burrows
Sven Bonino Vrbata
Vey Horvat Hansen
Kenins Gaunce Dorsett
Edler Tanev
Hamhuis Weber
Sbisa Corrado

- bezz44


I've read that Canucks management told Green to play Gaunce at LW all year in Utica. Makes no sense since he's a big guy, who plays a more positional game than a speed/energy game.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
Jimmy Graham Feck the first!
- VanHockeyGuy



Lucky (frank)ers.
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