"We might have been celebrating a Game 7 win today, rather than wondering what might have been"
I think this quotation nicely summarizes Vancouver Canucks hockey...
#WeAreAllCanucks
- bezz44

Yep, no answers, no fix to the hopeless situation.

What might have been if they only let it hang out a bit more, wanted it more.

IDK man I would say not having a heart qualifies as a serious injury
- bezz44

This kind of plays into what Vantel has been suggesting with Sutter.

This kind of plays into what Vantel has been suggesting with Sutter.
- VanHockeyGuy

I was joking but to answer that I don't think we would have won any more games if we'd had Brandon Sutter. I think Bonino would make an excellent 3C, and from what I've heard from Pens fans, what you guys saw from Sutter is the exception not the rule. I'll take their word for it seeing as I only watch the Pens on occaision and they see him play every night. He sounds a lot like Matthias.

If we know we aren't wining the next few seasons, sell high on Lack and put effort in grooming the next heir. Keeping him and making him a starter for the next 3+ years of a "re-tool" is nearly as bad as New Jersey wasting Schneider's efforts as a lottery team
- WhiteLie

This makes a ton of sense

I'd hate to see Eddie go but if he can fetch us a high(ish?) pick or solid prospect I'd be on board.. I really wouldn't be opposed to selling high on Vrbata too. It'd be a good time to sell on both him and Lack

This makes a ton of sense

I'd hate to see Eddie go but if he can fetch us a high(ish?) pick or solid prospect I'd be on board.. I really wouldn't be opposed to selling high on Vrbata too. It'd be a good time to sell on both him and Lack
- FearTheeGinger

Which ever tender they can trade and get the best return should go.

They should have some faith in what they have after they move one, and Demko in the system. If Demko isn't the future franchise goalie, why did they waste the 2nd round pick on him?

If they are pushing for the playoffs, I don't see them moving Vrbata. Scoring has been lacking of late and he brings it. Unless some rookies make him redundant or it gets us a young offensive dman.

I was joking but to answer that I don't think we would have won any more games if we'd had Brandon Sutter. I think Bonino would make an excellent 3C, and from what I've heard from Pens fans, what you guys saw from Sutter is the exception not the rule. I'll take their word for it seeing as I only watch the Pens on occaision and they see him play every night. He sounds a lot like Matthias.
- bezz44

If for nothing else I want him on the team for his work ethic and bloodlines. Sutter's are warriors, that's exactly what you need in the room and on the ice.

Let me bipolar for a minute for poops and giggles...

Sign Ribiero on a 1-year....
Trade Jensen/Bieksa to Nashville for Ellis...
Trade Bonino for picks....
Let Matthias, Weber and Richardson walk....
Promote Baertschi, Virtanen, Corrado, Clendening and Gaunce...

Sedin/Sedin/Kassian
Baertschi/Ribiero/Vrbata
Virtanen/Horvat/Hansen
Higgins/Gaunce/Dorsett
Vey

Hamhuis/Ellis
Edler/Tanev
Sbisa/Corrado
Clendening

Miller/Lack

Youth is served.....

Which ever tender they can trade and get the best return should go.

They should have some faith in what they have after they move one, and Demko in the system. If Demko isn't the future franchise goalie, why did they waste the 2nd round pick on him?

If they are pushing for the playoffs, I don't see them moving Vrbata. Scoring has been lacking of late and he brings it. Unless some rookies make him redundant or it gets us a young offensive dman.
- hillbillydeluxe

Agreed... I wish they would give up on making the playoffs for a couple of years and worry more about development. A couple of early 1st round picks could go a long way for this club.

I really hope one of our young wingers makes the jump next year. Doesn't need to put up Gaudreau numbers but if we can get a rookie that contributes 15+ goals that'd be huge. Also hope Kassian can take the next step..

I am currently living in Vienna, but I am from the countryside of Upper Austria. To be honest I didn't know there was "pro" baseball here. I don't think Austrians can earn money with it, but maybe foreigners can earn a little.

I was joking but to answer that I don't think we would have won any more games if we'd had Brandon Sutter. I think Bonino would make an excellent 3C, and from what I've heard from Pens fans, what you guys saw from Sutter is the exception not the rule. I'll take their word for it seeing as I only watch the Pens on occaision and they see him play every night. He sounds a lot like Matthias.
- bezz44

Bonino can't beat me at face offs never mind NHL players

Bonino can't beat me at face offs never mind NHL players
- VANTEL

Sutter won 1 more faceoff than he lost and Bonino lost 4 more than he won, I find it hard to believe that one guy is elite and one is terrible at FO looking at those numbers.

I know you have a hard on for Sutter and agree he would likely be an upgrade on Bonino at the 3C position. The value isn't even close though as one makes 3.3 million and one makes 1.9.

Bonino can't beat me at face offs never mind NHL players
- VANTEL

Sutter career 48% face off man
Bonino career 47% face off man

Sutter career 48% face off man
Bonino career 47% face off man
- Nucker101

I didn't realize that Sutter was that much better...

No doubt he would raise our grit factor - the bar's not exactly high - but not enough to justify the difference in salary. The fact is, we only have so many tradeable pieces, and burning two of them for a slight upgrade at 3C doesn't seem like the best asset management. IMO.

What's up with this hard on for sutter? If there's a third line centre the Canucks should trade Bonino for its Sean Couterier.

I'd trade Bonino/Weber + a pick for him in a heartbeat; might not even be enough.

I didn't realize that Sutter was that much better...

No doubt he would raise our grit factor - the bar's not exactly high - but not enough to justify the difference in salary. The fact is, we only have so many tradeable pieces, and burning two of them for a slight upgrade at 3C doesn't seem like the best asset management. IMO.
- CubanBuffet

Yup.


We've already paid more than enough for "grit" with Dorsett and especially Sbisa, we can't afford to keep doing it unless you want a team with the Sedins, Horvat and a bunch of plugs who try hard and are good in scrums.

Yup.


We've already paid more than enough for "grit" with Dorsett and especially Sbisa, we can't afford to keep doing it unless you want a team with the Sedins, Horvat and a bunch of plugs who try hard and are good in scrums.
- Nucker101

Praise the hockey gods that Benning didn't give them NTC's.

Honestly, grit only does you good if the player has legitimate skills; otherwise you get a guy like Sbisa. They're gonna get twisted up so bad on the ice that they won't even be able to play the grit game.

What's up with this hard on for sutter? If there's a third line centre the Canucks should trade Bonino for its Sean Couterier.

I'd trade Bonino/Weber + a pick for him in a heartbeat; might not even be enough.
- Gullzy

Doubt that's even close. Besides, this sudden need for a 3LC makes little sense. You have Horvat who already looks like a solid 3LC at 19 this year and with improvement should become a solid 2LC and Bonino is definitely good enough to be a 3LC. 40 points or so from that spot is money, especially at 1.9 million.


Again, wasting more money and assets on positions we don't even have a real weakness at makes no sense when you have a glaring need for a top 6 winger and a top 4 RHD that can move the puck.

Praise the hockey gods that Benning didn't give them NTC's.
- Gullzy

Sbisa's contract might as well have one unless Milbury is re-hired.

Doubt that's even close. Besides, this sudden need for a 3LC makes little sense. You have Horvat who already looks like a solid 3LC at 19 this year and with improvement should become a solid 2LC and Bonino is definitely good enough to be a 3LC. 40 points or so from that spot is money, especially at 1.9 million.


Again, wasting more money and assets on positions we don't even have a real weakness at makes no sense when you have a glaring need for a top 6 winger and a top 4 RHD that can move the puck.
- Nucker101

Where the (frank) were you all morning when I was fighting this battle on my own

What's up with this hard on for sutter? If there's a third line centre the Canucks should trade Bonino for its Sean Couterier.

I'd trade Bonino/Weber + a pick for him in a heartbeat; might not even be enough.
- Gullzy

That would make more sense but even then I don't think it's an area of weakness

Bonino can't beat me at face offs never mind NHL players
- VANTEL

Best faceoff team this season was Boston. That didn't work out so well
Edit: exactly half of the top 16 playoffs teams missed the playoffs.
6 of the teams that will be in the 2nd round were top 16 in faceoffs, 2 were in the bottom 5

What we really need is a right handed faceoff man. Someone who can score 12-15 goals , 30 points and be good on the PK. Cole Cassells can be that guy in 2-4 years but we need someone to fill in until then. Sharks need a goalie and a dman. We need a solid 1B centerman. I wonder if they would take Miller and Tanev for Pavelski? Another 30 goal scorer could help us big time.

Doubt that's even close. Besides, this sudden need for a 3LC makes little sense. You have Horvat who already looks like a solid 3LC at 19 this year and with improvement should become a solid 2LC and Bonino is definitely good enough to be a 3LC. 40 points or so from that spot is money, especially at 1.9 million.


Again, wasting more money and assets on positions we don't even have a real weakness at makes no sense when you have a glaring need for a top 6 winger and a top 4 RHD that can move the puck.
- Nucker101

I agree with you, the depth down the middle isn't the problem. I was more so alluding to the idea that if you're going to trade for a centre, it might as well be someone that's better than (or has the potential to be) better than what we have right now.

Any interest in Justin Williams?

What we really need is a right handed faceoff man. Someone who can score 12-15 goals , 30 points and be good on the PK. Cole Cassells can be that guy in 2-4 years but we need someone to fill in until then. Sharks need a goalie and a dman. We need a solid 1B centerman. I wonder if they would take Miller and Tanev for Pavelski?
- Itsjustarash

I don't think they would. I'd love to add Pavelski. I don't think we need another bottom six C though. I think everyone has this picture in their heads of what a great 3C looks like but I think the reality is far from the truth. We had some good depth centers on this team but at the end of the day they are just that. Defensively responsible but pretty underwhelming in most other areas. Some can raise their game for short bursts but will leave you wanting more most of the time. If they played that well all the time they'd be on the 2nd line