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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 28 @ 10:14 AM ET
Jeropotato has everyone here completely rattled
- PhillySportsGuy

Long time no see bud. I always loved that freakish Avi of yours.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:15 AM ET
Long time no see bud. I always loved that freakish Avi of yours.
- Jeropotato


Freakish!? It's just Mitch

Yours is freakish
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 28 @ 10:18 AM ET
Edmonton has cool jerseys, especially their darks.

I like watching Edmonton games because they have the best looking ice.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:19 AM ET
That isn't true. It took 3 years with Crosby. You don't count the Fleury, Whitney or Malkin drafts as rebuilding years?

You gotta let these guys develope.so far only Hall has had sufficient time to become an elite player, and he finished last year in the top 10 in scoring.

RNH is gonna be very good...and we needed a Center, but don't expect too much from him. If he ends up as good as Hank Sedin I'll be thrilled ( and offensively he's actually more productive at this stage of his career)..I won't argue the Yak point because we already had Eberle and Gagne and this isn't the Lord of the Rings, and Steve Tambellininis/was an idiot. Mind you, had we drafted Murray we would still be a few years away from benefitting from that pick.

- Jeropotato


MAF's first season was 03/04. There was no 04/05 season. They missed in 05/06 and made the playoffs in 06/07. That's 3 seasons. The next year they were to the SCF and the year after the won the Cup, which makes 5 season after drafting one of their core players with a top-5 pick.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:25 AM ET
Wow. The hammer hath dropped.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 28 @ 10:27 AM ET
Wow. The hammer hath dropped.
- jmatchett383


Serious. Just as I was about to post an apropos Seinfeld clip.

Now it would just seem too random.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:31 AM ET
I think just shaking up management will make Edmonton less of a no go for free agents. We'll see, though.



The McDavid thing helps too, o'course.

- BulliesPhan87


All Edmonton has to do is tweak thier roster successfully to the point where they're an up and coming team on the rise, about to move into the realm of a top contender, and then they'll have no issue attracting free agents as long as they come up with the money.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Apr 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
All Edmonton has to do is tweak thier roster successfully to the point where they're an up and coming team on the rise, about to move into the realm of a top contender, and then they'll have no issue attracting free agents as long as they come up with the money.
- MJL


And what successful tweaking needs to be done? I feel like they've been trying to "tweak" for a while.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
Kronwall might be finally getting his comeuppance.


http://www.tsn.ca/kronwal...-hit-on-kucherov-1.268752
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 28 @ 10:35 AM ET
Freakish!? It's just Mitch

Yours is freakish

- PhillySportsGuy

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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 28 @ 10:35 AM ET
MAF's first season was 03/04. There was no 04/05 season. They missed in 05/06 and made the playoffs in 06/07. That's 3 seasons. The next year they were to the SCF and the year after the won the Cup, which makes 5 season after drafting one of their core players with a top-5 pick.
- jmatchett383

Umm..no, they drafted Ryan Whitney a year sooner as well, and just because there was no NHL season doesn't mean there was no development for those young still developing players.
The point in all of this is you still have to give those players time to develop. Just because we drafted early and often doesn't mean half those players are Ready to be core pieces on any NHL teams, nor does it make them ruined, or busts.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
Freakish!? It's just Mitch

Yours is freakish

- PhillySportsGuy

Yes, it is freakish. I think it's the smile...he looks like a maniac. And who the (frank) is Mitch, anyway?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
Kronwall might be finally getting his comeuppance.


http://www.tsn.ca/kronwal...-hit-on-kucherov-1.268752

- MBFlyerfan


TSN.ca gets a huge FU from me. It let's me watch their commercials but then gives me the "Not allowed for this geo region" message when it's time for the video clip? Tools
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
Thanks Bill. If Murray was to be an assistant, where would he fit in with the coaching staff?
I would like to see Straka make strides in his defensive part of the game. He looked good when he was called up, and I would choose him over Akeson.
I think that Jones needs another look. He would be a good 4th line guy, but I know that VL is probably slated for the position..lol. Jones can play wing or center which is a nice change from all the centers that only want to or are able to play wing.
I would also consider bringing up Zepp to replace Razor. Zepp seems to be more mobile, and would be a money saving alternative.
Finally, Martel sounds interesting. Is he the next Danny B?
Ain't no cure for the summer time blues.

- OrangeAndBlack1


Murray would be an assistant and would run the defense on the bench.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
And what successful tweaking needs to be done? I feel like they've been trying to "tweak" for a while.
- benjichronic

We need to trade a package of young forward for a youngish top pair D man....or, try and nab a UFA or 2 to make our blue line at least respectable while Nurse and Klefbom round out their pro games for the next few years.

And get a goalie, but that's what our excessive 2nd and 3rd round picks can be used for in trade.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
And what successful tweaking needs to be done? I feel like they've been trying to "tweak" for a while.
- benjichronic



Good question. They need to upgrade the defense obviously, and they need some veteran role players with character.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:43 AM ET
Umm..no, they drafted Ryan Whitney a year sooner as well, and just because there was no NHL season doesn't mean there was no development for those young still developing players.
The point in all of this is you still have to give those players time to develop. Just because we drafted early and often doesn't mean half those players are Ready to be core pieces on any NHL teams, nor does it make them ruined, or busts.

- Jeropotato


Ryan Whitney wasn't a part of the Cup team.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 28 @ 10:45 AM ET
Ryan Whitney wasn't a part of the Cup team.
- jmatchett383

Doesn't really matter if he was an asset used to get a piece that was, no was it?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:45 AM ET
Yes, it is freakish. I think it's the smile...he looks like a maniac. And who the (frank) is Mitch, anyway?
- Jeropotato


Guys, can we PLEASE keep this about hockey? It's right in the CoC that this thread needs to be about hockey.

And really, we shouldn't be talking about anything other than the intent of the thread. Can we please get on topic?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:47 AM ET
Doesn't really matter if he was an asset used to get a piece that was, no was it?
- Jeropotato


You were talking about developing players, not asset trading.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:47 AM ET
Jeropotato has everyone here completely rattled
- PhillySportsGuy


Actually, he just has me really craving french fries
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:51 AM ET
Guys, can we PLEASE keep this about hockey? It's right in the CoC that this thread needs to be about hockey.

And really, we shouldn't be talking about anything other than the intent of the thread. Can we please get on topic?

- jmatchett383


Yesterdays topic of boobs, bassists and whether or not you have descended from watermelon royalty was a lot more fun.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Apr 28 @ 10:52 AM ET
Good question. They need to upgrade the defense obviously, and they need some veteran role players with character.
- MJL


Okay I figured you were referring to some kind of veteran leadership that's not named Andrew ference.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Apr 28 @ 10:59 AM ET
We need to trade a package of young forward for a youngish top pair D man....or, try and nab a UFA or 2 to make our blue line at least respectable while Nurse and Klefbom round out their pro games for the next few years.

And get a goalie, but that's what our excessive 2nd and 3rd round picks can be used for in trade.

- Jeropotato


I suggested that in an Oilers blog one time and I got crucified for it. Because, you know, no trade ever works out for both teams... everyone just wants to rape Edmonton of their players and picks.

Or so I was told...
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
You were talking about developing players, not asset trading.
- jmatchett383

I'm not. I'm saying that if your going to pick 3 or 4 or 7 players with a high draft picks over a 5 year span that it isn't a given to be a playoff team by the end of those 5 years.
Pittsburgh did it after 5 years (4 NHL seasons). Ottawa didn't and neither did Quebec.
The comment that the Oilers should be a lock to be in the playoffs after all those high 1st round picks is silly, it takes more than just 3 or 4 young players that are not fully developed.
Then someone tried saying the Penguins rebuild was only 3 years to further grind the Oilers into the mud, when that simply wasn't true.
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