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smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
Now I will go to nyr thread and discuss the now and not draft picks..lol
- rrentz



Congrats. Be sure to keep us all updated on your whereabouts on the Internet. It's news that matters.
NJDevils42630
New Jersey Devils
Location: Cranford, NJ
Joined: 10.13.2014

Apr 27 @ 9:33 PM ET
Such class. Whining? Nope, just don't think its right to laugh about head injuries, but I'm crazy. Go enjoy the worst state in the USA ...lol
- rrentz


Texas?
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Apr 27 @ 9:33 PM ET
NJ has the best pizza, Italian food, and subs in the country and is close enough to philly to have great cheesesteaks, sorry guys but it's Destiny: Kessel.

All kidding aside, Kessel could either be an amazing addition or a total train wreck here in the Garden State. It depends on if he bought into the system if you ask me. The Devils might have the situation that this guy needs to thrive. NJ is in desperate need of a star player that's not a goalie. We might be able to turn the guy into a machine.

Pros would be: you know pretty much what you are getting at least in the shorter term, opposed to speculating; the guy can consistently score, and with moderately talented players, an area where we have a significant weakness. He will have a good 4-5 years of high end usability. There's also Cory,who deserves some actual talent to work with in his prime years. A total rebuild now wouldn't be the best allocation of Schneider as a resource, so it might not be that far fetched. As a Devils fan I know I would like to see something of offensive interest, you know a goal or maybe even two here and there.

Cons are: not necessarily amount of his contract, the Devils are ok there, it's the amount and length of his contract which makes it a monster 8 mill to 2022. His lack of defensive "give a (frank)", and his "questionable character/ dedication to conditioning also don't help. He also could be perceived as prone to fading quick in his latter years with his apparent disregard for his physical prowess. If he gorged himself on our tasty ass food, didn't buy into the system, hated Lou and took a turn for the worst we could have an 8 million dollar Michael Ryder on our hands.

All in all with some cap offset, if the trade wasn't too expensive, and if his "questionable" character and heart were dissolved when/if he bought into the system and the fans bought into him, it could be a very good thing for everyone, at least for like 3-4 years, and if it got too ugly we could buy his ass out couldn't we?

Cammi - Zajac - Kessel and we have an actual first line. Cammi and Zajac have good enough back checking skills to make it not a total disaster if it took a little time to assimilate into the Devils system. All three would be signed for a few years, if the gelled it would be a decent, sustainable first line.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 27 @ 9:37 PM ET
Congrats. Be sure to keep us all updated on your whereabouts on the Internet. It's news that matters.
- smellmyfinger



HAHA..I got it now.."smellyfingers" you spend your days w/ your finger up your ass. I guess that smells better than the Meadowlands does
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
HAHA..I got it now.."smellyfingers" you spend your days w/ your finger up your ass. I guess that smells better than the Meadowlands does
- rrentz



Actually if you get close enough to my hand, it's your mom my fingers reek of.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Apr 27 @ 9:47 PM ET
HAHA..I got it now.."smellyfingers" you spend your days w/ your finger up your ass. I guess that smells better than the Meadowlands does
- rrentz


Actually if you get close enough to my hand, it's your mom my fingers reek of.
- smellmyfinger



Twerk Battle!!!
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 27 @ 10:30 PM ET
Kessel is going to Florida. You Devils fans can keep enjoying not being able to score goals...
- dwoo33

What do you care where he goes as long as you get a solid return?
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 27 @ 10:31 PM ET
Such class. Whining? Nope, just don't think its right to laugh about head injuries, but I'm crazy. Go enjoy the worst state in the USA ...lol
- rrentz

Someone's never been to the Deep South before
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 27 @ 10:59 PM ET
Someone's never been to the Deep South before
- shvingter88


That's not true.. I've been to Newark.

Have a good one fellas
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

Apr 27 @ 10:59 PM ET
Twerk Battle!!!

- TRDevil

Hood rats fighting over the last mcnuggets?
ATLL765
Joined: 11.04.2014

Apr 27 @ 11:10 PM ET
Someone's never been to the Deep South before
- shvingter88

You don't even need to go to the deep south, Pennsylvania is bad enough and that's under 100 miles from NYC.

As for Kessel, he'd be nice and would definitely help our offense right now, but I don't think that's a move we should make right now. It's not his cap hit that concerns me, it's the term. Toronto surely expects a 1st rd pick in return for Kessel and that's more than I'd be willing to give up for him with there being so many question marks surrounding the team right now. It's not really his cap hit that concerns me, it's the term that makes me feel like trading for him isn't the best move right now.

It's more important that we draft well this year and avoid handing out long-term deals to any FAs. Trading for a player like Kessel is something I think we should hold off on doing until next season, if not next summer. By then we'll have a better idea of what we have in our prospects, if any of young defenseman in Albany are ready to play in the NHL full-time, who we drafted with our 3 picks in the top 50, how they look in rookie camp and their progression though next season.

Once we know what we have in our farm system and whether we can trade away one of our young defenseman without creating a hole there, then making a big trade for a player like Kessel makes sense.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 27 @ 11:13 PM ET
Hood rats fighting over the last mcnuggets?
- FLdevilsFAN

ctc_93
New Jersey Devils
Location: New Brunswick, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2014

Apr 27 @ 11:48 PM ET
That's not true.. I've been to Newark.

Have a good one fellas

- rrentz


I don't understand why Rags fans handle ONE ignorant Devs fan by bashing the entire state.
oVoraptors416
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 04.27.2015

Apr 28 @ 1:00 AM ET
Lets switch the topic. What do y'all tho It will take to get ROR from Colorado?
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:33 AM ET
Cammalleri-XXX-Kessel
Henrique -Zajac-XXX
Elias-Gomez-Bernier/Zubs
Ruutu-Josefson/Gio-Tootoo/Zubs

Well, one hole filled. Now what?

- FLdevilsFAN


Cammalleri-Henrique-Kessel
Elias-Zajac-Bernier
Boucher-Gomez-Matteau
Ruutu-Josefson/Gio-Tootoo/Zubs

presto. Gomez would have fun with those kids. He's got a youthful spirit, but also has experience and knows how to play "Devils hockey"- responsible 2-way hockey and all that.

if all pans out.. this could be a bubble team.

with that said, do we go all in now with Kessel, Cam, Zajac and Greene having a few years of their prime left, while Schneider is in his, and use what's left of Elias/Gomez?
OR
do we draft Barzal and have a franchise center to develop along the same timeline as our young dmen.. and hope everyone can be good to go in a few years while Cam has something left to give? If Kovy and Parainen come over, that changes a lot. If Boucher, Matteau, even this Blandisi kid develop into at least 2nd line players, that changes some things. It's a gamble either way. I just see about 5 years of prime Kessel, vs. about 13 years of Barzal.

the true miracle would be Lou somehow getting Kessel, without sacrificing that 6th pick. If he can do that, we could be a playoff team this year, and maybe even contenders the year or 2 after once Barzal gets some NHL experience. Could we offer Merrill+ both 2015 2nd round picks + 2016 1st? It's a lot of picks, in years that we still may not even make the playoffs.. but we still get Barzal, who has a higher probability of being a top line center, than what we'll get in the 2nd round or next year's draft.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:35 AM ET
Twerk Battle!!!

- TRDevil


it really does amaze me how people can even move their bodies like this
JohnnyNYR27
New York Rangers
Location: Astoria, NY
Joined: 03.28.2015

Apr 28 @ 6:42 AM ET
So which part of your brain got clipped by the wire hanger when your mom tried to abort you?
- smellmyfinger

Abortion joke, I expect no less from jersey scum go play in the swamp,wimp
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 28 @ 6:53 AM ET
Kessel can (frank) off.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 28 @ 6:55 AM ET
Rags fans in here? DAFAQ is going on aren't you guys stilll playing? Don't you have something like exciting and important to talk about or nah? Devils offseason plans are the most important thing to ya.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 28 @ 7:03 AM ET
Lets switch the topic. What do y'all tho It will take to get ROR from Colorado?
- oVoraptors416



Probably a 1st rd pick and a young dman I would imagine.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 28 @ 7:32 AM ET
Abortion joke, I expect no less from jersey scum go play in the swamp,wimp
- JohnnyNYR27



The mean guy from NJ said bad stuff.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Apr 28 @ 8:08 AM ET
When the Leafs fans come here, the exchanges are colourful negotiations...

When the Rangers fans (other than Burton) come here, the exchanges become extremely uncivil... WHY? Why do we fight?!
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 28 @ 8:57 AM ET
Lets switch the topic. What do y'all tho It will take to get ROR from Colorado?
- oVoraptors416

6th overall and gelinas or Merril
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 28 @ 9:03 AM ET
If Hitchcock is fired from st Louis i want him behind the Devils bench
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 28 @ 10:17 AM ET
If Hitchcock is fired from st Louis i want him behind the Devils bench
- shvingter88


McLellan is still my #1. Tippet (who won't be fired) is my #2.. so by default, i guess Hitch is my #2. I just don't like the way he manages his players. Great coach tho. if Tarasenko got more minutes, and the gamble of Allen panned out for him, they'd probably be going to the next round. However.. MN has been very good.
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