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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:01 PM ET
Yeah his salary is a lot and he has been an injury case for a while but he alone could give us secondary scoring. 70 points in 69 games. That's the same amount as bonino and edler.
- manvanfan


I don't really see Malkin wanting to play in Vancouver, why would he want to?

LUcic has a chance to be a hero, be close to his family, is familiar with Benning.

The fans have a love hate relationship with him , but soon as he put on the Canuck Jersey fans would go wild. I think we will go after him the following year anyways when he is a UFA but I would love to speed up the process
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
Second round is the least of our worries. I don't think we make the playoffs next year. Do you really think we are better then Dallas/Kings/ Cal with a 19 year old Sam Bennett? IO think we will be the bubble team on the outside looking in at TDL.
- Linden_4_Capt

After this year I've decided I'm not going to both guessing who will be in and who will be out. So few things seem constant, so much movement in team placement
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
I agree keeping this current roster is only going to bring heartache, big moves need to be made
- VANTEL


Most were happy to see the changes he made at the start of this season. He brought in a player to help the sedins get back to scoring and a bit more youth. I'm all for mass changes to this team but at the same time. Add in a prospect or two like they did with Bo. Make a trade and bring in a FA or two will give me great optimism for the next season. A lot of our talk has been about the forwards. It's the D that worries me the most and I think it is harder to fix then the forwards. We have drafted 4 forwards in the last two drafts in the 1st round. We need some D though. An overhaul of the D would make me more happy.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:03 PM ET
I don't really see Malkin wanting to play in Vancouver, why would he want to?

LUcic has a chance to be a hero, be close to his family, is familiar with Benning.

The fans have a love hate relationship with him , but soon as he put on the Canuck Jersey fans would go wild. I think we will go after him the following year anyways when he is a UFA but I would love to speed up the process

- VANTEL

I think you're right here
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:04 PM ET
I never said it's not important I said this team has more important issues. If the Coyotes trade for the best 3rd liners in the game they are still going to suck. Ladd put up 60 points this year he's a 1st liner. And Top 6 players nullify each other if they are equal. If your 2nd line is poop then your 3rd, 4th, and 1st lines are going to suffer accordingly
- bezz44


When Ladd played us in the Playoffs he was a third liner. Remembers Keslers famous quotes telling him he doesn't fight third liners?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:05 PM ET
The Monahan line was not together until the last couple months at all ...it was either hudler with Monahan or hudler with gaudreau for most of the season

IMO if you want a young line work your way up to it ...you don't want to see Bo regress and you want JV to be insulated better

- Redmile247


It would be the same as Monahan playing with Gaudreau with Bo and JV then. You could take Sven and add a more veteran presence. Sven does now have 69 games under his belt. Bo only got better as the season went on.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
When Ladd played us in the Playoffs he was a third liner. Remembers Keslers famous quotes telling him he doesn't fight third liners? Also Coyoted didn't have top 6 players so getting a good third liner they in reality get their best player.
- VANTEL

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
I don't really see Malkin wanting to play in Vancouver, why would he want to?

LUcic has a chance to be a hero, be close to his family, is familiar with Benning.

The fans have a love hate relationship with him , but soon as he put on the Canuck Jersey fans would go wild. I think we will go after him the following year anyways when he is a UFA but I would love to speed up the process

- VANTEL


Well here Malkin won't be under crosby spotlight. I know we have the Sedins but in a year or two they are finished. He would get the recognition he deserves. MAlkin earns his salary is my thing. Lucic is on the block because he hasn't preformed.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
I agree with the Sutter over Bonino comment but unless we are using Sutter's heart in some form or sacrifice to hockey gods to get us in the playoffs it would be a moot point having a 3LC that is playoff hardened. Based on out current roster and the NTC anchors we are not going to get better in a hurry. We will most likely have to wait till the TDL to get rid of KB. I don't think he will waive at draft.
Miller is another anchor that is going nowhere, along with hammer and maybe even Burrows.

- Linden_4_Capt


Can it hurt to have a Sutter in the dressing room?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:12 PM ET
Would if make you happy if the trade was

Malkin and Sutter for

Bonino, Edler, KAssian, 1 st plus a prospect.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:12 PM ET
I don't really see Malkin wanting to play in Vancouver, why would he want to?

LUcic has a chance to be a hero, be close to his family, is familiar with Benning.

The fans have a love hate relationship with him , but soon as he put on the Canuck Jersey fans would go wild. I think we will go after him the following year anyways when he is a UFA but I would love to speed up the process

- VANTEL


I think he's a bit of a jerk, but that can be a good thing? Sutter, Lucic, Do we get byatch slapped next year? Would they create a better vibe in the room? Absolutely.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Well here Malkin won't be under crosby spotlight. I know we have the Sedins but in a year or two they are finished. He would get the recognition he deserves. MAlkin earns his salary is my thing. Lucic is on the block because he hasn't preformed.
- manvanfan

Just a hunch LUcic would be a better second line Forward than our current Higgins.

I am not sure Ferland would have been so active if LUcic was in our lineup
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
Would if make you happy if the trade was

Malkin and Sutter for

Bonino, Edler, KAssian, 1 st plus a prospect.

- manvanfan


We don't want Malkin, just Sutter. You can have Kassian and Vey.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
When Ladd played us in the Playoffs he was a third liner. Remembers Keslers famous quotes telling him he doesn't fight third liners?
- VANTEL

Yes but he was on his way to becoming a 1st liner. An impact player in the making. And I never said 3rd lines aren't important. I was pumping Ferland's tires while everyone was calling him a charging bumhole. You are the one who has said all year this team has 3 3rd lines. And I agree. So go get Lucic, go get more top 6ers and a better defense, and only then do you come back to your 3rd line tinkering. Cart before the horse
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
I think you're right here
- bezz44


I would be very disappointed if Benning went after Lucic. The guy is overpaid and is a disgrace to the sport. That said I expect Edm to go hard after him so he can play on Mcdavid's wing.....something that I definitely am not looking forward to.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
Yes but he was on his way to becoming a 1st liner. An impact player in the making. And I never said 3rd lines aren't important. I was pumping Ferland's tires while everyone was calling him a charging bumhole. You are the one who has said all year this team has 3 3rd lines. And I agree. So go get Lucic, go get more top 6ers and a better defense, and only then do you come back to your 3rd line tinkering. Cart before the horse
- bezz44


I liked Ferland , I think he was a series changer.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
Just a hunch LUcic would be a better second line Forward than our current Higgins.

I am not sure Ferland would have been so active if LUcic was in our lineup

- VANTEL


apples to oranges. I want to close the gap on the secondary scoring and you want someone to punish the other team. They should just (frank)en get both!!!! Mortgage the future the sedins deserve a cup.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
I would be very disappointed if Benning went after Lucic. The guy is overpaid and is a disgrace to the sport. That said I expect Edm to go hard after him so he can play on Mcdavid's wing.....something that I definitely am not looking forward to.
- belcherbd


Get used to it, there's a strong possibility EDM battles us for the final playoff spot next year, as things stand right now.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
I liked Ferland , I think he was a series changer.
- VANTEL


Should have kept Raffi Torres then.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Don't be Weird. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
I liked Ferland , I think he was a series changer.
- VANTEL


I do as well, loose cannons are a good thing, that's why I like Kassian and Lucic (to some degree)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
I would be very disappointed if Benning went after Lucic. The guy is overpaid and is a disgrace to the sport. That said I expect Edm to go hard after him so he can play on Mcdavid's wing.....something that I definitely am not looking forward to.
- belcherbd

That doesn't make sense. It's like saying I don't want him but it is exactly what we need.

I think having him on the second line would automatically protect Bo , and also allow Virtanen to make the jump onto the team. LUcic creates a lot of room , and yes he is a bumhole
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
Just a hunch LUcic would be a better second line Forward than our current Higgins.

I am not sure Ferland would have been so active if LUcic was in our lineup

- VANTEL


Sure he would, do you honestly believe that a guy like Ferland cares who is on the other team?

His job is to hit and hit often, Bieksa sucker punching him didn't stop him from playing his game so I doubt Lucic doing the same or spearing him or spraying him with water would make him change his game either.

Lucic would of likely intimidated the Flames D and goal tending but Ferland would of just continued doing his thing. McGratten likely would of been called up at some point and him and Lucic would of been tossed from the game.....

none of this makes the team better at collapsing when up 3-0 or 1-0 or scoring a few more goals.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
That doesn't make sense. It's like saying I don't want him but it is exactly what we need.

I think having him on the second line would automatically protect Bo , and also allow Virtanen to make the jump onto the team. LUcic creates a lot of room , and yes he is a bumhole

- VANTEL


His Corsi rating this year was extremely bad was it not?

He needs a playmaker to play with hence why he was so bad this year without krecji. Bo isn't exactly a playmaker.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
That doesn't make sense. It's like saying I don't want him but it is exactly what we need.

I think having him on the second line would automatically protect Bo , and also allow Virtanen to make the jump onto the team. LUcic creates a lot of room , and yes he is a bumhole

- VANTEL


Why does Bo need protecting?

I don't want him but I certainly don't want to have to watch him play the nucks with stupid antics 5 times a season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
Sure he would, do you honestly believe that a guy like Ferland cares who is on the other team?

His job is to hit and hit often, Bieksa sucker punching him didn't stop him from playing his game so I doubt Lucic doing the same or spearing him or spraying him with water would make him change his game either.

Lucic would of likely intimidated the Flames D and goal tending but Ferland would of just continued doing his thing. McGratten likely would of been called up at some point and him and Lucic would of been tossed from the game.....

none of this makes the team better at collapsing when up 3-0 or 1-0 or scoring a few more goals.

- belcherbd


McGratten would have been a blessing for the Canucks. We had Bieksa as our turnover machine , McGratten could have been theres
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