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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Locker Clean-Out Day Looms, Checking in on Prospects With their 2014-15 season over, Vancouver Canucks players will meet with the media for the last time this season on Monday.
KOS
Vancouver Canucks
Location: United States, TX
Joined: 01.14.2008

Apr 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
First. Did I do it right?

- Tangled



No, it says you're from Edmonton with a rough riders avatar......
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 1:19 PM ET
I'm officially starting the Tarasenko movement.

Vrbata for 1st
Miller anywhere with 2 mil retained
Bieksa anywhere if he'll waive bench him if he doesn't

Sing Tarasenko 8 X 8

Make it rain

Virtanen horvat Tarasenko
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:22 PM ET
I'm officially starting the Tarasenko movement.

Vrbata for 1st
Miller anywhere with 2 mil retained
Bieksa anywhere if he'll waive bench him if he doesn't

Sing Tarasenko 8 X 8

Make it rain

Virtanen horvat Tarasenko

- The_Kuze

Come on man, it's Monday. Wait until Tuesday
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
Come on man, it's Monday. Wait until Tuesday
- bezz44

The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 1:24 PM ET
Come on man, it's Monday. Wait until Tuesday
- bezz44

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:37 PM ET

Thanks for posting the link for Media Availability.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
First. Did I do it right?

It's kind of cute how when one twin speaks it's as though both are.
"There will be no 'from us due to injury,"

- Tangled


They hurt their backs trying to carry the team.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
Come on man, it's Monday. Wait until Tuesday
- bezz44


I'm pretty sure that it's going to be Tuesday for the duration of the off season.
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
Was having dinner out Saturday. On way back from washroom, I noticed game on TV. Looked at the score and groaned. Women walking by looked at me and asked "Are you a Calgary fan?" For whatever reason, as soon as I saw the 3-0 after ten minutes, I knew that Nucks were toast.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
Was having dinner out Saturday. On way back from washroom, I noticed game on TV. Looked at the score and groaned. Women walking by looked at me and asked "Are you a Calgary fan?" For whatever reason, as soon as I saw the 3-0 after ten minutes, I knew that Nucks were toast.
- Lostinarink


yep.
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 2:00 PM ET
yep.
- hillbillydeluxe


I felt the exact same way.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 2:01 PM ET
Player media availability, who cares. Always the same politically correct answers. Management is a different story, hopefully the press hold these guy's feet to the fire and get some answers on how this mess is going to get fixed with a timeline. Linden had to work hard to win back season ticket holders last year, it won't be easier this time around. Availability was pushed back so the spin doctors can get everyone's stories in order. What will next years slogan be? "Change has come and gone"



DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 27 @ 2:06 PM ET
I posted this last thread, but I think it's good for Carol's new blog. I've always felt that we got extremely lucky to make the playoffs with LA, SJ and Dallas all missing after having been in last season. Almost every single one of our metrics (advanced and otherwise) were mostly in the bottom half of the league including our faceoff percentage which was attrocious. If not for Horvat, we may have ended up 30th out of the 30 NHL teams there.

Even if you ignore the numbers, the eye test didn't hold up, once you got past the Sedins, Vrbata and Horvat, nobody had a really good year offensively. Now mind you, offense was down across the board this year, whether that's due to adjustments made by coaches and goalies being better we'll have to see. The point is that we had a lot of holes that were covered up by the fact that WD rolled four lines and we had a rookie who played above expectations.

I honestly felt after the loss @ Buffalo and the losses to Arizona and Columbus that we had nothing left to give mentally or physically. It was obvious that most of the players were playing with significant injuries and therefore Calgary was the worst possible matchup for us. They play fast, physical and simple hockey and our team isn't set up (as currently constructed) to break that sort of a team down and take advantage of them. Save for Games 1,2 and 6, we were playing catch up. I believe in the last half of the season for most of the games we ended up winning, we constantly had bad first periods. That tells me the team just didn't have any legs or ability to handle teams that would come out strong against them right from the get go. Again, most of that comes from the fact that without being good on the faceoff, we chased the puck... alot.

So here again is what I posted as my plan for the Canucks for the off-season:

Draft/Before FA Period:

- Darft/Trade for a center that has the potential to be elite
- Stock the prospect cupboards at D and hopefully find someone who can be a #1D
- Trade Miller to recoup some cap space or trade Lack for picks and/or prospects
- Trade one of Bieksa/Hamhuis/Edler as part of a package to upgrade at D (preferably Bieksa)

Free Agency Period:

- Let Matthias, Richardson go as cap space is at a premium and they are too expensive for what they bring to the table.
- Resign our RFAs to reasonable bridge deals (no more than 2 years and re-evaluate at the end of the next year if they should be moved or kept long-term.
- Pull a Gillis and attempt to find cheap alternatives to both those players and have them play for the Comets as potential veteran call-ups in case of injury.

Training Camp/Pre-Season:

- Go in with the expectation that at least two (hopefully more) of Shinkaruk, Jensen, Gaunce, Baertschi, McCann, Virtanen, Cassels will make the team and don't be afraid to give them roles on the team.
- Have a plan to rotate the remaining older core out of the lineup (including the Sedins) during the season one at a time (or more) at various points to allow for rest/minor injury recovery and use call-ups from Utica more frenquently to give players above who didn't make the team out of camp NHL regular season experience.

Also, I'd like to see a bit of a philosophy change within the organization to move slowly away from a puck possession team to one who can create off the rush, drive the net and score the kind of goals that tend to happen in the playoffs. Leave puck possession to the Sedins.
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Apr 27 @ 2:11 PM ET
Trade Bieksa, and Edler...keep Hamhuis.....Edler was a joke during the flames series, he did nothing. Bieksa was slow. trade higgins to the islanders.....trade burrows...
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Apr 27 @ 2:11 PM ET
Haha, No way Regina gets the NHL team, if they ever come to SK. It will go in Saskatoon.

The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
I posted this last thread, but I think it's good for Carol's new blog. I've always felt that we got extremely lucky to make the playoffs with LA, SJ and Dallas all missing after having been in last season. Almost every single one of our metrics (advanced and otherwise) were mostly in the bottom half of the league including our faceoff percentage which was attrocious. If not for Horvat, we may have ended up 30th out of the 30 NHL teams there.

Even if you ignore the numbers, the eye test didn't hold up, once you got past the Sedins, Vrbata and Horvat, nobody had a really good year offensively. Now mind you, offense was down across the board this year, whether that's due to adjustments made by coaches and goalies being better we'll have to see. The point is that we had a lot of holes that were covered up by the fact that WD rolled four lines and we had a rookie who played above expectations.

I honestly felt after the loss @ Buffalo and the losses to Arizona and Columbus that we had nothing left to give mentally or physically. It was obvious that most of the players were playing with significant injuries and therefore Calgary was the worst possible matchup for us. They play fast, physical and simple hockey and our team isn't set up (as currently constructed) to break that sort of a team down and take advantage of them. Save for Games 1,2 and 6, we were playing catch up. I believe in the last half of the season for most of the games we ended up winning, we constantly had bad first periods. That tells me the team just didn't have any legs or ability to handle teams that would come out strong against them right from the get go. Again, most of that comes from the fact that without being good on the faceoff, we chased the puck... alot.

So here again is what I posted as my plan for the Canucks for the off-season:

Draft/Before FA Period:

- Darft/Trade for a center that has the potential to be elite
- Stock the prospect cupboards at D and hopefully find someone who can be a #1D
- Trade Miller to recoup some cap space or trade Lack for picks and/or prospects
- Trade one of Bieksa/Hamhuis/Edler as part of a package to upgrade at D (preferably Bieksa)

Free Agency Period:

- Let Matthias, Richardson go as cap space is at a premium and they are too expensive for what they bring to the table.
- Resign our RFAs to reasonable bridge deals (no more than 2 years and re-evaluate at the end of the next year if they should be moved or kept long-term.
- Pull a Gillis and attempt to find cheap alternatives to both those players and have them play for the Comets as potential veteran call-ups in case of injury.

Training Camp/Pre-Season:

- Go in with the expectation that at least two (hopefully more) of Shinkaruk, Jensen, Gaunce, Baertschi, McCann, Virtanen, Cassels will make the team and don't be afraid to give them roles on the team.
- Have a plan to rotate the remaining older core out of the lineup (including the Sedins) during the season one at a time (or more) at various points to allow for rest/minor injury recovery and use call-ups from Utica more frenquently to give players above who didn't make the team out of camp NHL regular season experience.

Also, I'd like to see a bit of a philosophy change within the organization to move slowly away from a puck possession team to one who can create off the rush, drive the net and score the kind of goals that tend to happen in the playoffs. Leave puck possession to the Sedins.

- DariusKnight


I would like to add 8 x 8 for tarasenko

sedin sedin kass
virtanen horvat tarasenko
shinkaruk mccann hansen
dorsett bones richardson

make it rain
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 27 @ 2:34 PM ET


Canucks new marketing slogan leaked!
Grumpy13
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 01.09.2014

Apr 27 @ 2:35 PM ET
So much apathy for the Nucks in town. I was driving around Van and Richmond Saturday afternoon and I only saw two car flags all day.
Crying_Wrestler
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.23.2012

Apr 27 @ 2:57 PM ET
....Also, I'd like to see a bit of a philosophy change within the organization to move slowly away from a puck possession team to one who can create off the rush, drive the net and score the kind of goals that tend to happen in the playoffs. Leave puck possession to the Sedins.
- DariusKnight


Well, if the team defence didn't collapse in both Game 1 and 6, the series would look much different.

We know the young Flames are on the rise and the older Canucks are waning but I thought the Canucks dominated possession throughout the series with the exception of Game 4. All year long, the team has been fragile and unable to contain agressive forchecking pressure and exit their zone with possession. This cost us the series IMO.

I'm sure if the Canucks had more offensively creative players, it would have helped us score more (like a healthy Kassian) but we should have been able to close a 1-0 game let alone a 3-0 game with solid team D. We iced a more skilled/experienced D than the Flames yet they played solid D overall without as many breakdowns.

Lastly, Sbisa is the new Keith Ballard 2.0 - Great skater, some nice hits, a few nice passes with horrible unpredictable turnovers that kill momentum/cause goals every single game. Sbisa has shown that he is reliably unreliable. Hopefully Willie & co have a ways to improve his decision making or the else next 3 years will be brutal.

We do need more creatively offense players but also we need to protect our leads when we do score.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Apr 27 @ 2:58 PM ET
So much apathy for the Nucks in town. I was driving around Van and Richmond Saturday afternoon and I only saw two car flags all day.
- Grumpy13


I saw quite a few over the weekend, though obviously nowhere near what you saw during 2011, or what you would see in another Canadian market.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 27 @ 3:08 PM ET
I'm really looking forward to the food and concession changes for next year. I also just realized Sam Bennet is only 18 years old, amazing.
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

Apr 27 @ 3:11 PM ET
I'm officially starting the Tarasenko movement.

Vrbata for 1st
Miller anywhere with 2 mil retained
Bieksa anywhere if he'll waive bench him if he doesn't

Sing Tarasenko 8 X 8

Make it rain

Virtanen horvat Tarasenko



Pretty sure you can't sign players to 8 year contracts unless they are already on your team and are re-signing them...
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Apr 27 @ 3:30 PM ET
I'm really looking forward to the food and concession changes for next year. I also just realized Sam Bennet is only 18 years old, amazing.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 27 @ 3:33 PM ET
I'm really looking forward to the food and concession changes for next year. I also just realized Sam Bennet is only 18 years old, amazing.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Do you mean Rookie Sensation 18 year old Sam Bennett?
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