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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:28 PM ET
Auston Mathews! Destroying eichels records.....
- chompsey

We might have a shot
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
I make a lot of really awful spur of the moment life decisions based on hypotheticals, and this is another example. Bring on the tank!
- bezz44

Gullzy's roster from the last blog could make it a reality
Alpha_Nuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.09.2014

Apr 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
As in the smelliest?
- VANTEL

90% of top 4 NHL d-men were good offensive defensemen in junior. Even guys who aren't really point producers in the NHL today.

It's a waste to draft a junior player who isn't producing high-end offense in junior.
Alpha_Nuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.09.2014

Apr 26 @ 4:31 PM ET
I make a lot of really awful spur of the moment life decisions based on hypotheticals, and this is another example. Bring on the tank!
- bezz44

I have a feeling Toronto is going to tank hard to try and get him.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Apr 26 @ 4:32 PM ET
As in the smelliest?
- VANTEL

classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Apr 26 @ 4:39 PM ET






Jake Allen SUCKS.

Mortalis
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 08.12.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
The only person from the Canucks I really want gone is Edler. Everyone kept saying he had a great year this year. I disagree. He just didn't have a horrible season. He was average at best. It is beyond me how he can win our hardest shot competition sometimes, but can't even attempt to make a slap-shot or a one-timer. When he was on the point, it was like he wanted to wait with the puck until the defense had time to set up, and then flick a feeble wristshot into the closest defender's shin pads. WEAK pass outs from his own zone.. resulting in constant turnovers... resulting in game losing goals... cough cough.. last night... cough. His bodychecking has all but disappeared. He has all the time in the world to clear the puck from the corner, but constantly waits until a forechecker can get close to take it away. He is a special player, but I mean "special". He is NOT worth his contract, and if we could steal a higher 1st round pick at the draft by including him in a deal OH MY GOD PLEASE Jim, jump on it! Not just venting here... I have been a die-hard Canuck fan since 1990. I study the game. I watch more than just the Canucks. I am a hockey fan. I watch Edler. He sucks.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Review: Snatching Defeat From the Jaws of Victory
Despite taking a three-goal lead in the first period, the Vancouver Canucks' 2014-15 season came to an end with a 7-4 loss to the Calgary Flames on Saturday at the Scotiabank Saddledome.

- Carol Schram

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
I have a feeling Toronto is going to tank hard to try and get him.
- Alpha_Nuck


With the top 3 picks up for grabs in the lottery, tanking will be almost pointless. Almost.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 26 @ 4:58 PM ET

Stop trying to find blame with the coach, players, or GM. Point your fingers at the ownership, greed keeps this team from being a winner. He's to afraid to trade the twins because he doesn't want to upset the fan base and lose money. The rebuild should have started the day they fired AV, Gillis should have been fired at the same time and the trading should have started.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
Oh no, Hitch has both a plan A and a plan B, Carlyle's the guy who couldn't work a toaster
- lumlums

I can tell that Hitch knows how to work a toaster.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Apr 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
The only person from the Canucks I really want gone is Edler. Everyone kept saying he had a great year this year. I disagree. He just didn't have a horrible season. He was average at best. It is beyond me how he can win our hardest shot competition sometimes, but can't even attempt to make a slap-shot or a one-timer. When he was on the point, it was like he wanted to wait with the puck until the defense had time to set up, and then flick a feeble wristshot into the closest defender's shin pads. WEAK pass outs from his own zone.. resulting in constant turnovers... resulting in game losing goals... cough cough.. last night... cough. His bodychecking has all but disappeared. He has all the time in the world to clear the puck from the corner, but constantly waits until a forechecker can get close to take it away. He is a special player, but I mean "special". He is NOT worth his contract, and if we could steal a higher 1st round pick at the draft by including him in a deal OH MY GOD PLEASE Jim, jump on it! Not just venting here... I have been a die-hard Canuck fan since 1990. I study the game. I watch more than just the Canucks. I am a hockey fan. I watch Edler. He sucks.
- Mortalis


I want Edler gone as well.

It's pretty even between Sbisa, Bieksa, and Edler.

I can't stand these guys play in our own zone.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
The only person from the Canucks I really want gone is Edler. Everyone kept saying he had a great year this year. I disagree. He just didn't have a horrible season. He was average at best. It is beyond me how he can win our hardest shot competition sometimes, but can't even attempt to make a slap-shot or a one-timer. When he was on the point, it was like he wanted to wait with the puck until the defense had time to set up, and then flick a feeble wristshot into the closest defender's shin pads. WEAK pass outs from his own zone.. resulting in constant turnovers... resulting in game losing goals... cough cough.. last night... cough. His bodychecking has all but disappeared. He has all the time in the world to clear the puck from the corner, but constantly waits until a forechecker can get close to take it away. He is a special player, but I mean "special". He is NOT worth his contract, and if we could steal a higher 1st round pick at the draft by including him in a deal OH MY GOD PLEASE Jim, jump on it! Not just venting here... I have been a die-hard Canuck fan since 1990. I study the game. I watch more than just the Canucks. I am a hockey fan. I watch Edler. He sucks.
- Mortalis


The only person I don't want gone is Horvat, everyone else, meh.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
I can tell that Hitch knows how to work a toaster.
- A_SteamingLombardi


But more importantly, he also knows where to find the nutella
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Apr 26 @ 5:23 PM ET
Fully agree. Hartley was clearly the better coach in this series.
- Alpha_Nuck

I hate that I agree with this, But its true. Why are the twins getting less minutes than Higgins.

Willie D seems a little to stubborn to change his ways

If the twins played more, I could still see us losing, But we would have had a better chance.

I love everything our coach brought to the table this year until the post season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
But more importantly, he also knows where to find the nutella
- lumlums

I'm pretty sure he sweats Nutella
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:35 PM ET
I'm pretty sure he sweets Nutella
- A_SteamingLombardi


If that is true, I may lose Mrs Lums to him
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
Anyone still blaming the coach , needs to give their head a shake. Three coaches ,three years and same results.

The Sedins are two very talented offensive players( I wish they would shoot more) and Bo is the real deal. After that what do you have? The rest of the team is a bunch of mediocre players. Bo and the Twins can not play 60 minutes a night so you need to send someone out there .

Our D is reall not that good . Elder and Tanev ,our top pair would be 3/4 on good teams. We hang onto them as gold in the bank but they are good not great. One of them IMO should be traded . I know some here will say can you imagine what our D will look like without them? I would gladly replace one of them for a Boychuck or Engelland type. I did watch our and they stink. Not only Sbisa and Bieska. This is a very average D.

This is why I say everyone except the three mentioned should be trade eligible

- VANTEL


Thank you Vantel for bringing some sanity back to this thread.

Hold WD accountable? For what?

Look what he had to work with.

Maybe this franchise loses so damn much because they have a million armchair GMs.

Too many chiefs....
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 5:40 PM ET
You really don get it . You can not play the twins 60 minutes. To be successful you need to roll 4 lines. When it came to crunch he played the twins more.

He came into the league and everyone new he was a four line coach. If you don't want that don't hire him.

He played what he was given trying to get productivity out of the rest of the team is not a bad thing to do by any coach .

- VANTEL


I am fine that our weaker players got exposed. It needed to happen.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 26 @ 5:43 PM ET

Jeff Paterson ‎@patersonjeff
In the end, #Canucks had a better regular season than I expected and a poorer playoff than I expected

I understand this but really, for myself, I would say they had a poorer playoffs than I had hoped.

And that Dave Hodge outlook piece, how can you talk about the future and not even mention Virtanen or McCann? Hodge doesn't have a clue, another case of a guy forming or expressing an opinion based on back east "common knowledge" /misconception of what happening in the west.

I know that I don't agree with everything WD did. Don't know everything that happened behind the scenes, what the players were told, any adjustments attempted... some things worked, same result as previous seasons. Is this on the coach? I don't think so.

Tbh, I wonder if the problem was the Canucks taking their foot off the gas again after getting a lead. It has happened too many times with the same cast of characters.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:45 PM ET
Hitch needs to grow a Mike Gillis neck beard!


- VanHockeyGuy


Ever seen him on the ice for practice? He looks like Grimace on skates...
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 5:46 PM ET
Don't be an ass. They played far more following game 4. I don't know why you're so fixated on placing 100% of the blame on the coach. It's never that simple. Anybody who thinks blaming one factor is correct is the one spewing garbage
- bezz44


Maybe he's deflecting, so nobody will avoid attacking just how HORRIBLE Bieksa is.

I said it when Bieksa, Edler and Hamhuis were all injured-- Did we really miss Bieksa?

After this series-- Is there any doubt? Or you really want to blame the coach?

Players play-- And the players lost this series. Not WD.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:52 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/thumbs-down-to-canucks-outlook-1.267132


- LeftCoaster



Who cares, Hodge is clearly senile. The whole article assumes that every team is going to make changes but the Canucks are going to roll out the same roster. I'll wait to see what Benning does this summer before writing the Canucks off for next season.
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Apr 26 @ 6:01 PM ET
I hate that I agree with this, But its true. Why are the twins getting less minutes than Higgins.

Willie D seems a little to stubborn to change his ways

If the twins played more, I could still see us losing, But we would have had a better chance.

I love everything our coach brought to the table this year until the post season.

- vancity787


His inability to make in series adjustments was the biggest reason we lost this series IMO. Every game is so important, the leashes have to be much shorter. Just look at Hartley last night. I know we scored the 3rd goal right after, but pulling Hiller after 2 goals was key to their comeback. Hiller had been excellent the entire series, but he felt his team needed a kick in the ass.

Miller did not look good at all last night. His positioning was off, the goals weren't great and even he admitted he was not 100%. With our season on the line, he needed to make an important adjustment and put Lack back in there.
claygolf83
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 02.06.2010

Apr 26 @ 6:01 PM ET
I have to think the Blues are in a similar predicament as us...great regular season team with zero playoff success..gave up last year's first round pick to get miller and nothing...signed Stastny for big $$ and traded this year's number 1 for Michalek and they are out again, like us their window has closed
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