Forwards not coming back to help D with outlet passes, and sloppy play from the defense ultimately cost us this series IMO. Also lack of net front presence in both ends
- bezz44

Yes , it is these reasons we lost . Not the ice time totals.


Playing the Sedins more didn't mean you are assured a win , and playing them less doesn't mean you are assured a loss.

Again Sedins did what they could , the rest of the team didnt

Gonna take more than that forsure
- The_Kuze

No it's not just add a prospect and there is your deal

Oilers should give up RNH Mancarin spelling* and their 16 th over all for Gino
- VANTEL

RNH is just becoming the player they want Draisaitl to be, I'd trade Draisaitl and Yak or Eberle and the Pens 1st for him in a heartbeat.

That gives McDavid a few years to adjust to the NHL, which he needs if they're gonna do it right. They threw kids like RNH and Hall to the wolves with first line minutes as 18 year olds, how'd that work out.

Nathan MacKinnon excelled his first year playing on the wing in a somewhat limited role, that's what they should do with McDavid. Except don't play him on the wing, limited center role is what I mean.

I know it's easy to romanticize about having those types of kids, but I'd never want to go through the last six seasons they've had. I've already done it with the Canucks. I think we can get some good players with the way the draft is now without finishing at the bottom.

Yes , it is these reasons we lost . Not the ice time totals.


Playing the Sedins more didn't mean you are assured a win , and playing them less doesn't mean you are assured a loss.

Again Sedins did what they could , the rest of the team didnt
- VANTEL

If it was, then maybe we should have stuck with Torts. I think WD made some poor coaching decisions but as usual losing was a team effort for the Canucks

Your statement was referring to the first two games tho ...if you were one bad give away from potentially being up 2-0 and had pretty much dominated the series doing things the way you had all year why would you be adjusting ?
- Redmile247

Exactly we were up with a few minutes left in the game . Two quick brain farts cost us late in the game.

Your statement was referring to the first two games tho ...if you were one bad give away from potentially being up 2-0 and had pretty much dominated the series doing things the way you had all year why would you be adjusting ?
- Redmile247

Third period he should have been playing the Sedins more because they're possession players who are usually good defensively is all I'm saying. If they've got the puck then the Flames don't. Water under the bridge now, we lost because the Flames were better.

RNH is just becoming the player they want Draisaitl to be, I'd trade Draisaitl and Yak or Eberle and the Pens 1st for him in a heartbeat.

That gives McDavid a few years to adjust to the NHL, which he needs if they're gonna do it right. They threw kids like RNH and Hall to the wolves with first line minutes as 18 year olds, how'd that work out.

Nathan MacKinnon excelled his first year playing on the wing in a somewhat limited role, that's what they should do with McDavid.

I know it's easy to romanticize about having those types of kids, but I'd never want to go through the last six seasons they've had. I've already done it with the Canucks. I think we can get some good players with the way the draft is now without finishing at the bottom.
- LeftCoaster

While I'd also hate to have 6 bottom feeding seasons, I'd easily trade our entire roster and prospect pool for the Oilers(McDavid included). No question about it.

Yes , it is these reasons we lost . Not the ice time totals.


Playing the Sedins more didn't mean you are assured a win , and playing them less doesn't mean you are assured a loss.

Again Sedins did what they could , the rest of the team didnt
- VANTEL

The rest of the team did what they're capable of, you can't make them better than they are…its plain and simply a lack of talent.

Game 2 Canucks won 4-1 with the Sedins playing 16 /17 minutes.

Game 6 Canucks lost 7-4 with the twins playing over 20 minutes.

The Sedins did their job, the rest of the team failed again.
- VANTEL

Game 1: the Sedins played 4 minutes in the 3rd period when we needed them most. Result: Loss

Game 2: Sedins play 16 minutes in a win. It's possible to win occasionally with the wrong tactics and Lack played great.

Games 3 and 4: Sedins play 16/17 minutes, never with Vrbata (the team's best scorer), who was withering away on the Bonino line the entire series. Results: Loss

Game 5: Sedins play 20 minutes with Hansen. Poor decision but the Canucks still win.

Game 6: Sedins play with Hansen (again) but control the play far better with Vrbata, as they have done the entire season. WD makes the adjustment (and only on the occasional shift) in the 3rd period. Miller looks shaky from the 1st goal onwards. Hartley pulls a shaky Hiller, WD never pulls Miller who was clearly slow to move laterally (as he was not full fit). Result: Loss

Is it ALL on WD? Of course not. The Canucks have issues. But to say coaching had nothing to do with how this series went is an incredible statement for anyone who actually watched the series.

Third period he should have been playing the Sedins more because they're possession players who are usually good defensively is all I'm saying. If they've got the puck then the Flames don't. Water under the bridge now, we lost because the Flames were better.
- LeftCoaster

I can agree with your theory being very logical ...just don't see why WD should have changed things in the first two games ...

The rest of the team did what they're capable of, you can't make them better than they are…is plain and simply a lack of talent.
- LeftCoaster

exactly. the nucks winning this series would have meant their players exceeded expectations. the sedins were pretty consistent. not great, not bad, just good.

the rest of the team pretty much sucked, but most of them suck regardless.

at least horvat is looking like he has some upside, the guy can skate.

the time is now to rebuild. trade the sedins, or waste 3 years trying to win the cup when they have no chance, and then watch teams like calgary and edmonton get much better.

I can agree with your theory being very logical ...just don't see why WD should have changed things in the first two games ...
- Redmile247

I have nothing further to add your Honor.

exactly. the nucks winning this series would have meant their players exceeded expectations. the sedins were pretty consistent. not great, not bad, just good.

the rest of the team pretty much sucked, but most of them suck regardless.

at least horvat is looking like he has some upside, the guy can skate.

the time is now to rebuild. trade the sedins, or waste 3 years trying to win the cup when they have no chance, and then watch teams like calgary and edmonton get much better.
- sensnucksnocups

You can't trade the Sedins, please stop with that, it ain't happening!! They'll need to rebuild the team with them on it. Which would make it somewhat bearable.

Game 1: the Sedins played 4 minutes in the 3rd period when we needed them most. Result: Loss

Game 2: Sedins play 16 minutes in a win. It's possible to win occasionally with the wrong tactics.

Games 3 and 4: Sedins play 16/17 minutes, never with Vrbata, who was withering away on the Bonino line the entire series. Results: Loss

Game 5: Sedins play 20 minutes with Hansen. Poor decision but the Canucks still win.

Game 6: Sedins play with Hansen (again) but control the play far better with Vrbata, as they have done the entire season. WD makes the adjustment (and only on the occasional shift) in the 3rd period. Miller looks shaky from the 1st goal onwards. Hartley pulls a shaky Hiller, WD never pulls Miller who was clearly slow to move laterally (as he was not full fit). Result: Loss

Is it ALL on WD? Of course not. The Canucks have issues. But to say coaching had nothing to do with how this series went is an incredible statement for anyone who actually watched the series.
- AlexF

I never once said WD never made any bad calls. I did say blaming the new coach and the old coaches for the same shortcomings of this inept roster is crazy.

One thing we all agree on...Defence.

I have nothing further to add your Honor.
- LeftCoaster

Fair enough

One thing we all agree on...Defence.
- VanHockeyGuy

One thing we all agree on...Defence.
- VanHockeyGuy

More than just our D.

I never once said WD never made any bad calls. I did say blaming the new coach and the old coaches for the same shortcomings of this inept roster is crazy.
- VANTEL

That is a fair comment and, like I said, this team has many deficiencies. But I do believe that better coaching would/could have seen the Canucks win this series. Against ANA probably not even Babcock would have saved this group.

That is a fair comment and, like I said, this team has many deficiencies. But I do believe that better coaching would/could have seen the Canucks win this series. Against ANA probably not even Babcock would have saved this group.
- AlexF

I think this may be the only thing we can all agree on

Minny vs Blues is on - I hope the Wild crush the Blues and David Backes cries in his soup that (frank)in retard.

I never once said WD never made any bad calls. I did say blaming the new coach and the old coaches for the same shortcomings of this inept roster is crazy.
- VANTEL

Coach(s), players both share the end result. Weaknesses have been exposed, now it's JB's responsibility to right the ship. He has 5 months to figure things out for next season. TL & JB will remind us of the 101 points during the regular season as well as a playoff appearance. Not good enough, feck the playoffs.

That is a fair comment and, like I said, this team has many deficiencies. But I do believe that better coaching would/could have seen the Canucks win this series. Against ANA probably not even Babcock would have saved this group.
- AlexF

I don't. think even Mike Babcock would have inspired Hiiggins to go bump goalies or bury rebounds. I don't think Mike Babcock could have inspired a bigger Chris Tanev or Edler to drop the gloves with Ferland after he was running everyone through the boards. I don't think Mike Babcock could have made Bieksa stop those horrible pinches and stupid give always.

More than just our D.
- VANTEL

Agreed, that and scoring. Dare I suggest leadership in the room?