As I said, WD has to own some of this. You will see a coaching matchup in the next series. WD is a good coach who learned some things.
- VanHockeyGuy

Hopefully!!

As I said, WD has to own some of this. You will see a coaching matchup in the next series. WD is a good coach who learned some things.
- VanHockeyGuy

Understood.

But I still stand by the comments that even if he did do things differently ( which he did last night) you would still get the same result seeing this is not a talented team.

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Understood.

But I still stand by the comments that even if he did do things differently ( which he did last night) you would still get the same result seeing this is not a talented team.
- VANTEL

When you score four goals and you're up by three, you should win the game. The lack of ability to defend is what killed them last night.

Don't feed the troll...

Better team won.

While I believe WD should be back next yr, but if next playoffs he's as bad as he was this one, then he should be gone.
- Bieksa#3

I think unlike AV to a point WD will learn from these mistakes and move forward. WD has been a winner at every level he's coached we should eventually have that here but it will require time. It's not so much the coaching with this roster.

Anyone still blaming the coach , needs to give their head a shake. Three coaches ,three years and same results.

The Sedins are two very talented offensive players( I wish they would shoot more) and Bo is the real deal. After that what do you have? The rest of the team is a bunch of mediocre players. Bo and the Twins can not play 60 minutes a night so you need to send someone out there .

Our D is reall not that good . Elder and Tanev ,our top pair would be 3/4 on good teams. We hang onto them as gold in the bank but they are good not great. One of them IMO should be traded . I know some here will say can you imagine what our D will look like without them? I would gladly replace one of them for a Boychuck or Engelland type. I did watch our and they stink. Not only Sbisa and Bieska. This is a very average D.

This is why I say everyone except the three mentioned should be trade eligible
- VANTEL

- The Canucks are not much more than a decent team. We knew that.

- This series was absolutely winnable for the Canucks. That doesn't make them a great team without a bunch of deficiencies, it just means they could have beaten the Flames.

- WD is a mediocre coach that was glacially slow to make adjustments. It's pretty sad when Linden publicly tells to play the Sedins more and yet when he did make the adjustment everyone was calling for the team played better. He still stopped short of putting Vrbata full time with the Sedins, opting for Hansen.

- WD does not have rookie coach syndrome, he has poor coach syndrome. Just because our last coach was crap and the team has displayed many of the same failings, doesn't mean this coach isn't also poor. It's not an either or scenario.

- Our D is woeful and requires a serious upgrade. In re-signing Sbisa we've created an anchor to improvement, but it's not insurmountable.

- Miller was clearly not fully fit, but even so our G is a hindrance against playoff opposition. As far as I can see, we have nothing in the pipe to rectify this.

I think unlike AV to a point WD will learn from these mistakes and move forward. WD has been a winner at every level he's coached we should eventually have that here but it will require time. It's not so much the coaching with this roster.
- LordHumungous

The first two games we outplayed the Flames for the better part of 110 minutes, yet Willie only played the twins 16 minutes a piece…some of it does lie with him.

I think unlike AV to a point WD will learn from these mistakes and move forward. WD has been a winner at every level he's coached we should eventually have that here but it will require time. It's not so much the coaching with this roster.
- LordHumungous

In the last three years we have had a Stanley Cup winning coach, a two time Stanley Cup finalist coach and a Calder Cup winning coach all get the same results. I can assure you JB is not even considering WD to be the problem in the remotest possibility .

I usually hate listening to people whine about the officiating, but it was very one sided in this series. The GI call on McMillan in the 3rd period of a one goal elimination game was completely unacceptable. As the was the closing the hand on the puck call which was essentially replicated to a T by one of the flames only a few minutes later but with no call to follow. A good team can fight through that poope but its hard to swallow as a fan of this league sometimes. Let the boys play hockey and decide the outcome themselves.
- kevingram

Translation: I really don't like whining about the reffing, but let me whine about the reffing.

The first two games we outplayed the Flames for the better part of 110 minutes, yet Willie only played the twins 16 minutes a piece…some of it does lie with him.
- LeftCoaster

WD rolled 4 lines all year ...why would he change that in game 1 of the playoffs ...and they won game 2 ...

- The Canucks are not much more than a decent team. We knew that.

- This series was absolutely winnable for the Canucks. That doesn't make them a great team without a bunch of deficiencies, it just means they could have beaten the Flames.

- WD is a mediocre coach that was glacially slow to make adjustments. It's pretty sad when Linden publicly tells to play the Sedins more and yet when he did make the adjustment everyone was calling for the team played better. He still stopped short of putting Vrbata full time with the Sedins, opting for Hansen.

- WD does not have rookie coach syndrome, he has poor coach syndrome. Just because our last coach was crap and the team has displayed many of the same failings, doesn't mean this coach isn't also poor. It's not an either or scenario.

- Our D is woeful and requires a serious upgrade. In re-signing Sbisa we've created an anchor to improvement, but it's not insurmountable.

- Miller was clearly not fully fit, but even so our G is a hindrance against playoff opposition. As far as I can see, we have nothing in the pipe to rectify this.
- AlexF

nothing to do with the coach. the roster just sucks. the nucks are only as good as the sedins, they have no depth, their prospect cupboard is pretty bad...it's no wonder they got outworked by a young, faster and hungrier team. losing to them without giordano is embarassing but not expected.

i've said it for years, the window has CLOSED for the canucks.

time to rebuild. trade the sedins to speed up the rebuild or let them stay and waste 3 more years delaying the inevitable rebuild.

In the last three years we have had a Stanley Cup winning coach, a two time Stanley Cup finalist coach and a Calder Cup winning coach all get the same results. I can assure you JB is not even considering WD to be the problem in the remotest possibility .
- VANTEL

The Penguins have two of the best in the world in Cindy Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, their lack of depth of couldn't get them past five games…it's 99% on the players and their lack of skill, which is truly not their fault.

nothing to do with the coach. the roster just sucks. the nucks are only as good as the sedins, they have no depth, their prospect cupboard is pretty bad...it's no wonder they got outworked by a young, faster and hungrier team. losing to them without giordano is embarassing but not expected.

i've said it for years, the window has CLOSED for the canucks.

time to rebuild. trade the sedins to speed up the rebuild or let them stay and waste 3 more years delaying the inevitable rebuild.
- sensnucksnocups

Agreed, so why wait until Game 5 to play them the most? I'm not denying this team needs a rebuild, I'm not saying it's a great team, but to say it was not poorly coached in the playoffs is silly.

The Penguins have two of the best in the world in Cindy Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, their lack of depth of couldn't get them past five games…it's 99% on the players and their lack of skill, which is truly not their fault.
- LeftCoaster

The Penguins and Canucks are in a very similar situation. Pens need a lot of roster changes this year too.

The difference is Malkin wants out and will get a huge return. We don't have that luxury

WD rolled 4 lines all year ...why would he change that in game 1 of the playoffs ...and they won game 2 ...
- Redmile247

Because the regular season is not the playoffs and you need to adjust to what's happening in front of you. IMO not riding the Sedins and Vrbata in this series did cost us game one…and I'll never be convinced otherwise.

Yawn. Same garbage spew. Have a drink vantal. If you can't understand the difference between saying your best players should play more then 3rd liners and they should play every shift, then you are a waste of time.
- Bieksa#3

Don't be an ass. They played far more following game 4. I don't know why you're so fixated on placing 100% of the blame on the coach. It's never that simple. Anybody who thinks blaming one factor is correct is the one spewing garbage

The Penguins and Canucks are in a very similar situation. Pens need a lot of roster changes this year too.

The difference is Malkin wants out and will get a huge return. We don't have that luxury
- VANTEL

They'll get the biggest return for him if they trade him…good position to be in. Maybe the Oilers could give up something other than McJesus, Hall or RNH for him?

The first two games we outplayed the Flames for the better part of 110 minutes, yet Willie only played the twins 16 minutes a piece…some of it does lie with him.
- LeftCoaster

There's no way he should have played them even moderately close to the minutes he gave Higgins, so he absolutely made some mistakes. Also sitting back and protecting leads like AV used to do didn't help matters. Just can't be blind to the fact that the team played without any jam much of the time.

Agreed, so why wait until Game 5 to play them the most? I'm not denying this team needs a rebuild, I'm not saying it's a great team, but to say it was not poorly coached in the playoffs is silly.
- AlexF

Game 2 Canucks won 4-1 with the Sedins playing 16 /17 minutes.

Game 6 Canucks lost 7-4 with the twins playing over 20 minutes.

The Sedins did their job, the rest of the team failed again.

They'll get the biggest return for him if they trade him…good position to be in. Maybe the Oilers could give up something other than McJesus, Hall or RNH for him?
- LeftCoaster

Oilers should give up RNH Mancarin spelling* and their 16 th over all for Gino

Game 2 Canucks won 4-1 with the Sedins playing 16 /17 minutes.

Game 6 Canucks lost 7-4 with the twins playing over 20 minutes.

The Sedins did their job, the rest of the team failed again.
- VANTEL

Forwards not coming back to help D with outlet passes, and sloppy play from the defense ultimately cost us this series IMO. Also lack of net front presence in both ends
Edit: that critique applies to the players and the coach - he needs to make gameplan adjustments when he sees that things are not working

Without the Sedins we are easily top 3 worst teams. I would say probably the worst. We have nothing offensively behind them vrbata and horvat. That is just plain sad.

Because the regular season is not the playoffs and you need to adjust to what's happening in front of you. IMO not riding the Sedins and Vrbata in this series did cost us game one…and I'll never be convinced otherwise.
- LeftCoaster

Your statement was referring to the first two games tho ...if you were one bad give away from potentially being up 2-0 and had pretty much dominated the series doing things the way you had all year why would you be adjusting ?

Oilers should give up RNH Mancarin spelling* and their 16 th over all for Gino
- VANTEL

Gonna take more than that forsure