Again I'm happy with all 3 and wouldn't trade up but don't think id trade down either.


I've flip flopped a bunch of times but think the final order should be:

Strome
Hanafin
Marner

I'm simply basing this on their positions to be honest. We need help at all positions but to me wingers are least important position when building
- clark_griswold

I guess the real question is whether Marner is actually going to be a winger at the next level. It sounds more like there was pressure on London to make this super line and Marner just had to be a winger. Went back to center at least for a while in the playoffs and did well. Plus not like there aren't centers of that height in the NHL. So on that front I kind of treat like like 2 centers and a d-man as options at 4.

Agree on just holding pat at 4. Team just has to decide on their rankings and take whoever is highest that Arizona didn't take.

He's pulling the Oilers logo over his head or a noose? Oh, same thing.

I guess the real question is whether Marner is actually going to be a winger at the next level. It sounds more like there was pressure on London to make this super line and Marner just had to be a winger. Went back to center at least for a while in the playoffs and did well. Plus not like there aren't centers of that height in the NHL. So on that front I kind of treat like like 2 centers and a d-man as options at 4.

Agree on just holding pat at 4. Team just has to decide on their rankings and take whoever is highest that Arizona didn't take.
- FlareKnight

agreed on mitch. i know he asked to go back to centre recently. i like my centres a little bigger but if it came down to who plays centre between nylander or marner, i'm going marner all day. i think he and nylander are both better suited on the wing personally but i know they have both played up the middle as well

even though i have marner last of the 3 i actually think he's the safest pick. Kid is a great player. But IF Hanafin or strome turn out as good as projected / reach their full potential , they will be the more important players

I guess the real question is whether Marner is actually going to be a winger at the next level. It sounds more like there was pressure on London to make this super line and Marner just had to be a winger. Went back to center at least for a while in the playoffs and did well. Plus not like there aren't centers of that height in the NHL. So on that front I kind of treat like like 2 centers and a d-man as options at 4.

Agree on just holding pat at 4. Team just has to decide on their rankings and take whoever is highest that Arizona didn't take.
- FlareKnight

if huner/dubas/bergman are very confident in finding guys at 6-60, I wouldn't mind them trading down. Lots of talent available 6-10; provorov/zacha/brazal/ratanen/werenski etc.


Has to be an aggressive offer though - something like from philly: #7, tb's 1st and a 2nd. Even then, I don't know if that's enough.


Anyways can't go wrong standing pat and taking the bpa at #4; I won't be disappointed in the least if that happens.

He's pulling the Oilers logo over his head or a noose? Oh, same thing.
- Panthers88

If they know what's good for them they will grab Hanifin and be done with it, rebuilding is not a one season thing and I hope they learned that lesson (Burke and his fast lane rebuild).
- Alexzanki

Amen. Thank you.

In reference to the Oilers discussion in the podcast...

I understand the argument made that the Oilers need to hold on the their skilled wingers to have tools for McDavid to utilize. However, the idea of trading Nugent-Hopkins is baffling to me.

The whole argument against the Oilers these past few years is that they rush their prospects. They had very little veteran depth throughout this rebuild and they were forced to have all of these 1st overall picks start in the NHL right away. They've been shamed left and right for it, as evidenced with the whole "McDavid's career is now over" crap that's been spewed ever since they won the lottery.

And now the suggestion of trading Nugent-Hopkins comes up. So, you guys are wanting McDavid, an 18 year-old 1st overall prospect, to take over as the starting center for this team? I realize that he's the second coming of Hockey Jesus, but, really? He should not have that sort of responsibility thrust upon him, regardless of the skill he brings to the table.

The Oilers have been lacking in center depth for years now. And now, finally, they have some wiggle room, and the first suggestion is to trade their current top line center. I get that they need better D-men. I get that they need a starting goalie. I don't agree that sacrificing Nugent-Hopkins is the key. Nor do I agree that they should be thrusting that starting role onto McDavid, OR Draisaitl (who proved he isn't ready for the responsibility this year).

What's the answer? Probably looking to trade Draisaitl, for starters. Or, you go the free agency route, or you trade that second 1st round pick + prospect. But trading RNH is not the greatest idea.

- DDM-Coga

Oh the tears are so salty and sweet, oh god yes.....

Reality,

If Arizona is ok moving down, it means they don't really want Strome in the first place and see Hanifin or Marner as the better pick for them.
from a Leafs perspective, if they are willing to flip, you know they probably wouldn't take Strome anyways, and therefore, there is no real need to overpay as if you stay where you are, you probably end up with Strome anyways.

Marner makes sense for Arizona as they are already packed with D prospects and Marner has a history with Domi.
- ILoveLamp

If Strome is really the guy Toronto wants then there I'd no need to move up. No chance he goes top 3

Here's what going to happen on draft day:

1. EDM drafts McDavid
2. BUF drafts Eichel
3. ARI drafts Strome*
4. TOR drafts Marner
5. CAR drafts Crouse
6. NJ drafts Hannafin*

ARI has Max Domi, Anthony Duclair, and Sam Ganger up front. Connor Murphy, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Brandon Gormley on the back end. Hannafin is a left shot D-man but more importantly they need offence way more than D. I see Hannafin dropping past top 4 for sure. Likely being taken after Crouse but wouldn't be surprised seeing him drafted by Carolina. I'd be shocked if Strome isn't taken by 3. I wouldn't touch D-men in the top 5.

leafs should draft Hanifin and flip him to Philly for Couterier, B.Schenn and Simmonds
- mkolchenkov

nice dream..

Mcdavid with a hatty

Mcdavid with a hatty
- LeafsFan23

If Arizona was really shrewd, they would flip picks with Toronto and pick up a good prospect in the switch, and then flip the 4th to Phili for an even better prospect, and pick at 7th. That way they get two good prospects and the 7th overall, which will also be a good prospect.

If Arizona was really shrewd, they would flip picks with Toronto and pick up a good prospect in the switch, and then flip the 4th to Phili for an even better prospect, and pick at 7th. That way they get two good prospects and the 7th overall, which will also be a good prospect.
- malcolmthornton

I just don't see Toronto spending the assets to trade up. That may be shrewd of Arizona, but probably less than intelligent on the part of Toronto. They need all of the prospects they can get.

Leafs send 4th overall pick and Dion Phaneuf (retain 3 mil for 4 years of the deal)
to
Coyotes for 3rd overall pick and 32nd pick (maybe a 3rd as a throw in piece)

This trade seems fair to me only b/c of the retained salary

It's funny how Dions' leadership in Toronto is sh*t on while it'd be praised in Arizona

i just flip flopped again. i hope leafs grab marner. as much as i love strome, he has all the tools but he's too soft. but mariner's a winger...damnit.

i just flip flopped again. i hope leafs grab marner. as much as i love strome, he has all the tools but he's too soft. but mariner's a winger...damnit.
- clark_griswold

He's a natural centreman and prefers to play centre...Erie just tried him on the wing

i just flip flopped again. i hope leafs grab marner. as much as i love strome, he has all the tools but he's too soft. but mariner's a winger...damnit.
- clark_griswold

i'm warming up to hannifin. Sounds a bit like gardiner, except with a brain.

can't imagine soft will fly with Shanny and co.

i'm not opposed to wingers at this point. With kane/hossa/sharp, chicago probably has the best group of wingers in the league; to go along with a top C and top d-men.

Chicago could knock out Nashville tonight!

He's a natural centreman and prefers to play centre...Erie just tried him on the wing
- Daddichronic

you mean london...and i know. but he may be a better winger? i don't know. i just think we are looking at strome as the centre we have needed for years. and he could be the guy, but i think the possibility of marner becoming the player he can be is more a lock than strome. But if strome DOES become that guy, he's better.

i'm warming up to hannifin. Sounds a bit like gardiner, except with a brain.

can't imagine soft will fly with Shanny and co.

i'm not opposed to wingers at this point. With kane/hossa/sharp, chicago probably has the best group of wingers in the league; to go along with a top C and top d-men.
- Tumbleweed

yeah it's so weird. in a perfect world, it would be strome, hanafin, marner. but i think it may end up being (the best player in the end i mean) marner, hanafin, strome.

i'm warming up to hannifin. Sounds a bit like gardiner, except with a brain.

can't imagine soft will fly with Shanny and co.

i'm not opposed to wingers at this point. With kane/hossa/sharp, chicago probably has the best group of wingers in the league; to go along with a top C and top d-men.
- Tumbleweed

i think saad is their best option at wing. he's a future hossa. every game i watch he's a very responsible power forward. I think he's going to be a star

i'm warming up to hannifin. Sounds a bit like gardiner, except with a brain.

can't imagine soft will fly with Shanny and co.

i'm not opposed to wingers at this point. With kane/hossa/sharp, chicago probably has the best group of wingers in the league; to go along with a top C and top d-men.
- Tumbleweed

i would actually say that hannifin is probably phaneuf with a brain........gardiner is all offense, and that's pretty much it. phaneuf is the one who has/had the potential to have the "well rounded" game.

hannifin, from what i've read, has the offense, defense, physicality, and hockey IQ.

I have been playing a drinking game all night, whenever someone incorrectly spells "Hanifin" I take a shot.

Now to call the ambulance, I am pretty sure I have alcohol poisoning.