I have been playing a drinking game all night, whenever someone incorrectly spells "Hanifin" I take a shot.

Now to call the ambulance, I am pretty sure I have alcohol poisoning.
- Cochise

haannifin

hanniffen

hanifan

hanniffin

hennifin


get drinking boy

I have been playing a drinking game all night, whenever someone incorrectly spells "Hanifin" I take a shot.

Now to call the ambulance, I am pretty sure I have alcohol poisoning.
- Cochise

when your team has guys like:

zibanejad
michalek
weircioch
borowiecki

the importance of spelling names correctly goes right out the window.

when your team has guys like:

zibanejad
michalek
weircioch
borowiecki

the importance of spelling names correctly goes right out the window.
- sensarmy_11

That's how I am going to name my next kid. The first six scrabble tiles I randomly pick up and whammo, I've got a name. Heck, whammo could even be the name!

That's how I am going to name my next kid. The first six scrabble tiles I randomly pick up and whammo, I've got a name. Heck, whammo could even be the name!

- Cochise

i misspelled hiffafon 5 times.....you should be far too drunk to write coherent sentences. isn't cheating at a drinking game a deadly sin or something.

I still say unless he goes 3rd take Hannifan. He with Reilly is a great start on a strong
Dman core... Go forward with the nashville pick which hopefully is around 22 or 23...

I still say unless he goes 3rd take Hannifan. He with Reilly is a great start on a strong
Dman core... Go forward with the nashville pick which hopefully is around 22 or 23...
- Popcorn Kid

i think the lowest it can be is 24, and that's only if someone who finished with less pts than the preds wins the cup

i could be wrong

I still say unless he goes 3rd take Hannifan. He with Reilly is a great start on a strong
Dman core... Go forward with the nashville pick which hopefully is around 22 or 23...
- Popcorn Kid

yup. no need to give away a pile of assets to move up for strome, when most pundits have hanifin as the number 3 prospect. Ignoring button who has crouse 11 and hanifin 12, the hockey news, central scouting, the hockey writers, and future considerations all have hanifin at 3. only ISS has strome ahead of hanifin. These ranks were published in april.

Keep 4, take strome, hanifin, or marner

I still say unless he goes 3rd take Hannifan. He with Reilly is a great start on a strong
Dman core... Go forward with the nashville pick which hopefully is around 22 or 23...
- Popcorn Kid

I'm starting to lean toward Hanifin too. I've read him described as the best d-man since Doughty. If he pans out, it's possible our entire future defence is already with the organization.

Hanifin
Riley
Gardiner (if not moved)
Percy
Loove
Granberg
Nilson
Valiev
Finn

Not including some of the older guys (McWilliams, Brennan), and I've probably missed some. Granted not all of them are going to work out how we hope, but with a pool like that, we probably won't need to draft another d-man in a while.

yup. no need to give away a pile of assets to move up for strome, when most pundits have hanifin as the number 3 prospect. Ignoring button who has crouse 11 and hanifin 12, the hockey news, central scouting, the hockey writers, and future considerations all have hanifin at 3. only ISS has strome ahead of hanifin. These ranks were published in april.

Keep 4, take strome, hanifin, or marner
- GardinerExpress

After reading a few articles, I am kind of hoping aboard the Marner train. Not that I would select him over Strome, but he would defintiely be my next target over Hanifin if Strome is taken. I think its a win-win for Toronto with either kid (Strome/Marner).

No doubt Hanifin is going to be a great defence man, but lets face it, Toronto needs that drafted, franchise potential, centre piece to build around, and a star forward is way more attractive to the fans over a d-man. Its like comparing the bass player to the lead singer in a band, yup he's important, but which one really has the star power to the fans

So, my vote is take Marner if Strome is gone, build the team around this kid. Make a deal with Kessel ++ for another early 11-15 pick, possibly Phaneuf ++ for another 16-20 pick, and have Nashville's pick.

I'd be a happy happy happy camper if that could be done.

After reading a few articles, I am kind of hoping aboard the Marner train. Not that I would select him over Strome, but he would defintiely be my next target over Hanifin if Strome is taken. I think its a win-win for Toronto with either kid (Strome/Marner).

No doubt Hanifin is going to be a great defence man, but lets face it, Toronto needs that drafted, franchise potential, centre piece to build around, and a star forward is way more attractive to the fans over a d-man. Its like comparing the bass player to the lead singer in a band, yup he's important, but which one really has the star power to the fans

So, my vote is take Marner if Strome is gone, build the team around this kid. Make a deal with Kessel ++ for another early 11-15 pick, possibly Phaneuf ++ for another 16-20 pick, and have Nashville's pick.

I'd be a happy happy happy camper if that could be done.
- Cochise

who cares what's more attractive to the fans.............the team should be more concerned with what's in the long term best interest of the team............and that would be drafting a legit #1 dman, which hannifin absolutely has the potential to be.

the leafs have had a short, somewhat one-dimensional forward for the last few years, and how has that worked out? yes, kessel put up good points, but he's not a guy to build your team around. marner projects to be the same type of player.....small, all offense, not much else. the leafs have had lots of guys over the last few years who could put the puck in the net........when was the last time they had a legit stud d-man?

After reading a few articles, I am kind of hoping aboard the Marner train. Not that I would select him over Strome, but he would defintiely be my next target over Hanifin if Strome is taken. I think its a win-win for Toronto with either kid (Strome/Marner).

No doubt Hanifin is going to be a great defence man, but lets face it, Toronto needs that drafted, franchise potential, centre piece to build around, and a star forward is way more attractive to the fans over a d-man. Its like comparing the bass player to the lead singer in a band, yup he's important, but which one really has the star power to the fans

So, my vote is take Marner if Strome is gone, build the team around this kid. Make a deal with Kessel ++ for another early 11-15 pick, possibly Phaneuf ++ for another 16-20 pick, and have Nashville's pick.

I'd be a happy happy happy camper if that could be done.
- Cochise

Giving up an asset to move up one spot to guarantee a Strome, who's not clearly a better choice than Hanifin or Marner would be something Cliff Fletcher/JFJ would do. They won't because this mgmt team seems to know what they're doing. I say that because they took Nylander instead of Ritchie last year (Burke would have taken Ritchie).

If AZ takes Strome, take Hanifin (only because Marner projects as a winger and C/D are premium positions).

- twpguy

Add Giroux and I think Philly jumps all over this.

Absolutely no point for the Flyers to trade from #7 to #3. Provorov could be taken at #7. Is the gap in talent that large between Hanifin and Provorov that you would have to package additional pieces? I dont think it is.

No point in moving up from #7 unless you are looking to get into the top 2, which isn't going to happen.

who cares what's more attractive to the fans.............the team should be more concerned with what's in the long term best interest of the team............and that would be drafting a legit #1 dman, which hannifin absolutely has the potential to be.

the leafs have had a short, somewhat one-dimensional forward for the last few years, and how has that worked out? yes, kessel put up good points, but he's not a guy to build your team around. marner projects to be the same type of player.....small, all offense, not much else. the leafs have had lots of guys over the last few years who could put the puck in the net........when was the last time they had a legit stud d-man?
- sensarmy_11

I don't disagree, however just like you said, they need to concentrate on what's in the long term best interest of the team. Right now, ANY and EVERY position is of long term best interest, which Strome or Marner fit the bill just as easily as Hanifin. But that's just my "armchair GM" choice, which I am sure differs from many others.

In the end though, we have 4th pick in a deep draft. If we can somehow get another couple 1st round picks to add to it, we will have a good start to a rebuild no matter who we pick between Strome/Hanifin/Marner!

who cares what's more attractive to the fans.............the team should be more concerned with what's in the long term best interest of the team............and that would be drafting a legit #1 dman, which hannifin absolutely has the potential to be.

the leafs have had a short, somewhat one-dimensional forward for the last few years, and how has that worked out? yes, kessel put up good points, but he's not a guy to build your team around. marner projects to be the same type of player.....small, all offense, not much else. the leafs have had lots of guys over the last few years who could put the puck in the net........when was the last time they had a legit stud d-man?
- sensarmy_11

I agree that both they shouldn't just draft for the fans and that having a balanced roster is key.

But, I'm not sure this criticism on Marner is accurate. Plenty of scouting reports focus on the guy working hard in both the offense and defensive zone. He may not be an amazing defensive forward, but it's not like the Kessel situation where they had to teach him what two way hockey was at the NHL level. Being a fantastic offensive player doesn't mean you don't have a two way game.

No issue with the Leafs going for Hanifin in that position and giving a major boost to the blueline. But we've got to take these players as they are, not just presume deficiencies they may or may not have.

If the leafs have their heart set on a center and Strome is gone I would happily take Marner. I really hope they don't start making trades to move up unless it's for one of the top two (which of course won't happen)
- justmike

the leafs lack prospect depth, they should move down in this draft

the leafs lack prospect depth, they should move down in this draft
- Ross77

Cost to move down would be way too much for the return. Keep 4th and focus any other deals on obtaining a couple more 1st round picks. The only trade down I would ever consider was if there was a deal to be had with Edmonton, but chances of that are pretty much between 0 and -100.

who cares what's more attractive to the fans.............the team should be more concerned with what's in the long term best interest of the team............and that would be drafting a legit #1 dman, which hannifin absolutely has the potential to be.

the leafs have had a short, somewhat one-dimensional forward for the last few years, and how has that worked out? yes, kessel put up good points, but he's not a guy to build your team around. marner projects to be the same type of player.....small, all offense, not much else. the leafs have had lots of guys over the last few years who could put the puck in the net........when was the last time they had a legit stud d-man?
- sensarmy_11

thing is, adding kessel wasn't the problem. having great wingers is important to a putting together a deep well balanced team.

the leafs had no key players at other positions.

trading 3 draft picks to fill one hole was the problem.

I'd be weary of Hanifin, I read a great article pointing out all the US Defencemena drafted in the top 5 over the years who never lived up to the hype, Bogosian, Johnson, Johnson for examples. I'm not saying they are bad D, just didnt live up to the hype

thing is, adding kessel wasn't the problem. having great wingers is important to a putting together a deep well balanced team.

the leafs had no key players at other positions.

trading 3 draft picks to fill one hole was the problem.
- Tumbleweed

i'm not suggesting kessel was the problem..........just replying to him saying that you draft marner and build around him.

my point was that, like kessel, i don't think marner is the type of player you build a team around.

Absolutely no point for the Flyers to trade from #7 to #3. Provorov could be taken at #7. Is the gap in talent that large between Hanifin and Provorov that you would have to package additional pieces? I dont think it is.

No point in moving up from #7 unless you are looking to get into the top 2, which isn't going to happen.
- tjp2033

Flyers will take a forward, they have Morin, Hagg, Ghost and Sanheim all being groomed on D

Absolutely no point for the Flyers to trade from #7 to #3. Provorov could be taken at #7. Is the gap in talent that large between Hanifin and Provorov that you would have to package additional pieces? I dont think it is.

No point in moving up from #7 unless you are looking to get into the top 2, which isn't going to happen.
- tjp2033

Flyers will take a forward, they have Morin, Hagg, Ghost and Sanheim all being groomed on D

I cant see Arizona passing on Strome - the price for getting Arizona to drop down in the draft will be high, and its a deep draft - why give up assets to move up a few selections when you'll be getting a decent prospect by staying where you are.
I think if you have the option, do you take a potential big scoring centreman, or a good D prospect? Larsson was considered a cant-miss D prospect in his draft year, and teams showed that the temptation to go with the offensive players is much greater...Domi, Strome and Hanzal up the middle for the Yotes for years to come? I dont see them passing on that opportunity

I'd be weary of Hanifin, I read a great article pointing out all the US Defencemena drafted in the top 5 over the years who never lived up to the hype, Bogosian, Johnson, Johnson for examples. I'm not saying they are bad D, just didnt live up to the hype
- Ross77

what about suter, trouba, jones...........all highly touted, picked in the top 10, and absolute STUDS

I'd be weary of Hanifin, I read a great article pointing out all the US Defencemena drafted in the top 5 over the years who never lived up to the hype, Bogosian, Johnson, Johnson for examples. I'm not saying they are bad D, just didnt live up to the hype
- Ross77

To add to that, Marner is a Markham boy, born and raised on the Leafs, he even wears 93. Talent and skill aside, I think this kid could have the heart and passion this team has not seen (and desperately needs) since Clarke.

If Strome is gone, I'd be banking on this guy over Hanifin.