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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:38 PM ET
See edit.

The Canes defense isn't great, but they do have Faulk, who is close to being a legit number one within the next couple years. Murphy is a good youngster and a guy like Hainsey is a solid depth veteran. They also have McKeown and Fleury in the system.

They could use a guy like MacDonald to solidify the current roster, but why trade down to add him, when you could add a guy like Paul Martin as a UFA? Or if they want to trade down, do it to the teens and target a guy like Chabot or Zboril and get a better player than AMac in the deal

- Jsaquella


I have to now back read
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:39 PM ET
Depends who is there for me. If Barzal goes to NJ at 6, I take Provorov at 7-assuming McDavid-Eichel-Hanifin-Strome-Marner go top 5-and then probably focus on F with TB pick
- Jsaquella


That goes without saying. Still will be plenty of forwards later to look at selecting.

The more many take to look at it, sitting at 7 is a really good place to be in the draft.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 20 @ 6:40 PM ET
I didn't mind him being picked just the round in which it happened
- ob18


The fans "complaining" largely had the same issue. Had they picked him in round 5, or even traded into the 4th round to take him, not a problem.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:40 PM ET
I get what you're saying but you also have to consider AMac going off the books and that if you don't make the move for Marner then the Devils will be running to the podium for him.
- hereticpride


I don't want or need MacDonald off the books. I want him as part of this defense corps moving forward. Every team picking ahead of the Flyers is going to get a quality player. I'm not bothered by the Devils getting Marner. It's one player.
kellyblaise7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Haddon Township, NJ
Joined: 07.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 6:40 PM ET
I'm kind of thinking now I go with 2 forwards since we really have nothing in the system that is top 6 worthy but maybe Aube-Kubel and/or Laughton
- ob18


With all the needs the team has and the nature of prospects being unproven, I won't be pissed any which way they go - 1 of each, 2 of either.

Glad Hexy got a lot of picks, now we need to make them count.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 20 @ 6:40 PM ET
I like that thinking. Hopefully get Provorov and then maybe in the middle part land Meir or Svenchikov?
- MatveiDmitrii

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking. And my more popular idea it seems.

Go D at 7 and then move up to around 12 and get one of the high end forwards that are still on the board.

You come out of the 1st round with a guy to rival Sanhiem as our best D prospect and you get a guy that in all likelyhood brings the playmaking or sniping element that line two is currently devoid of.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 20 @ 6:41 PM ET
That goes without saying. Still will be plenty of forwards later to look at selecting.

The more many take to look at it, sitting at 7 is a really good place to be in the draft.

- ob18


It is, it gives them a ton of options, and a lot of quality to choose from.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:42 PM ET
The fans "complaining" largely had the same issue. Had they picked him in round 5, or even traded into the 4th round to take him, not a problem.
- Jsaquella


I do like how he's played this year, so I do hope that carries over into the AHL/NHL
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:43 PM ET
With all the needs the team has and the nature of prospects being unproven, I won't be pissed any which way they go - 1 of each, 2 of either.

Glad Hexy got a lot of picks, now we need to make them count.

- kellyblaise7


Yup, a good spot to be in with many choices.
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Apr 20 @ 6:45 PM ET
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking. And my more popular idea it seems.

Go D at 7 and then move up to around 12 and get one of the high end forwards that are still on the board.

You come out of the 1st round with a guy to rival Sanhiem as our best D prospect and you get a guy that in all likelyhood brings the playmaking or sniping element that line two is currently devoid of.

- hereticpride


So how do you think they should go about moving up? What are you willing to part with?
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Apr 20 @ 6:46 PM ET
I'm kind of thinking now I go with 2 forwards since we really have nothing in the system that is top 6 worthy but maybe Aube-Kubel and/or Laughton
- ob18


What's your opinion on that Lindblom kid in Sweden? I haven't heard too much about him but what little I did hear has been mostly positive.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 20 @ 6:46 PM ET
I wonder how far up we could move by trading the TB 1st and MacDonald?
If we trade the TB pick, MacDonald, and our 2nd?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:47 PM ET
What's your opinion on that Lindblom kid in Sweden? I haven't heard too much about him but what little I did hear has been mostly positive.
- JonnyHammerstix


Some positives/some negatives.....expect another year in Sweden with increased ice time them to come over is my guess.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:48 PM ET
I wonder how far up we could move by trading the TB 1st and MacDonald?
If we trade the TB pick, MacDonald, and our 2nd?

- JAKEw1234



To me it wouldn't, it's a solid draft, the prices go up.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 20 @ 6:49 PM ET
So how do you think they should go about moving up? What are you willing to part with?
- MatveiDmitrii


Might be able to package the Chicago 2nd rounder, maybe next year's 4th rounder, along with the TB pick to move into the mid teens, I'd be interested to come extent.

The thing is there's going to be a good player at the TB pick
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 20 @ 6:50 PM ET
Hmm brought us to 2005
- PhillaBully

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:50 PM ET
Might be able to package the Chicago 2nd rounder, maybe next year's 4th rounder, along with the TB pick to move into the mid teens, I'd be interested to come extent.

The thing is there's going to be a good player at the TB pick

- Jsaquella


As good as this draft is expected to be, next year at this point is apparently better
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 20 @ 6:52 PM ET
I'll be the one likely saying sit at #7 or maybe slide back a bit.
- ob18


Me 2
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 20 @ 6:52 PM ET
Might be able to package the Chicago 2nd rounder, maybe next year's 4th rounder, along with the TB pick to move into the mid teens, I'd be interested to come extent.

The thing is there's going to be a good player at the TB pick

- Jsaquella

Kylington, Beauvilier, Svechnikov if he slips. Depending on how late the TB pick is, Mackenzie Blackwood would be a good pick.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:53 PM ET
Me 2
- PhillySportsGuy


Good to know
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 20 @ 6:54 PM ET
Good to know
- ob18

Noted
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:55 PM ET
Especially all those uninformed clueless clowns that complained about the Gouldbourne pick. I will give anyone 20-1 odds that Gouldbourne has a better NHL career than Duclair.
- PLindbergh31


That's one tasty bet!
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Apr 20 @ 6:55 PM ET
Some positives/some negatives.....expect another year in Sweden with increased ice time them to come over is my guess.
- ob18


Thanks. Everything I've heard seems to make him seem like a poor man's Simmonds with a little better D game.

BTW I think I may have accidentally flagged this post when clicking the quote button. Sorry. They should really move those buttons away from eachother.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Apr 20 @ 6:57 PM ET
Kylington, Beauvilier, Svechnikov if he slips. Depending on how late the TB pick is, Mackenzie Blackwood would be a good pick.
- JAKEw1234


I wouldn't take a goalie with a first round pick this year
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 6:57 PM ET
Thanks. Everything I've heard seems to make him seem like a poor man's Simmonds with a little better D game.

BTW I think I may have accidentally flagged this post when clicking the quote button. Sorry. They should really move those buttons away from eachother.

- JonnyHammerstix


You didn't flag anything, unless somebody else removed it.
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