Re: the Marner discussion earlier today.

I think if Marner makes it to 5 there could be a chance the Flyers and Canes could make a deal.

The Canes need D far more than they need anything else. If Marner falls to 5 it in all likelyhood means Hanafin or Provorov is off the board. Devils at 6... You have to imagine that team goes for a forward. So of that's the case the Canes can move down and get the same player at 7 while picking up assets.

So my idea last week was to give them 7 and AMac for 5 and the John Michael Likes(cap dump. One year left on his deal)

The Canes get the same player they would have drafted and get AMac (who is legitimately better than half their D men) for nothing but John Michael Miles and moving back two spots.

And if you scoff at AMac then I think you can still swing that deal with other players or a pick that won't hurt us all that much.

Re: the Marner discussion earlier today.

I think if Marner makes it to 5 there could be a chance the Flyers and Canes could make a deal.

The Canes need D far more than they need anything else. If Marner falls to 5 it in all likelyhood means Hanafin or Provorov is off the board. Devils at 6... You have to imagine that team goes for a forward. So of that's the case the Canes can move down and get the same player at 7 while picking up assets.

So my idea last week was to give them 7 and AMac for 5 and the John Michael Likes(cap dump. One year left on his deal)

The Canes get the same player they would have drafted and get AMac (who is legitimately better than half their D men) for nothing but John Michael Miles and moving back two spots.

And if you scoff at AMac then I think you can still swing that deal with other players or a pick that won't hurt us all that much.
- hereticpride

Personally, no way would I give up a player to move up 2 spots. But that's just me.

Personally, no way would I give up a player to move up 2 spots. But that's just me.
- MJL

I'll be the one likely saying sit at #7 or maybe slide back a bit.

First Morrissey is not in the NHL he is playing with Kelowna Rockets who are in the WHL Western Conference Final against Portland that begins on Friday.

And Pulock was just called up from the AHL but he's older than both.
- ob18

We all know Kelowna are in the position they're in because of Goulbourne. M-V-P!!

We all know Kelowna are in the position they're in because of Goulbourne. M-V-P!!
- kellyblaise7

I'll be the one likely saying sit at #7 or maybe slide back a bit.
- ob18

I know very little about the players in the draft, but I do know the Flyers are going to have a variety of quality prospects to choose from at pick 7, if what they say about this draft is true.

I personally wouldn't put too much stock in what the SJ fans say. I personally think that McClellan has done an outstanding job laying a foundation, getting a team to play the right way, and positioning the team to succeed. When it comes down to playoff success, it's about players making key plays, scoring big goals, timely goaltending, etc. My personal opinion is that the Sharks lack of playoff success isn't on McClellan. I think he is a very bright coach, and I would love him as a coach for the Flyers. A plus is that his system and style of play is very similar to the system the Flyers used under Berube. The only caveat there is, he could teak or change that according to personnel if he would get the Flyers job.
- MJL

McLellan is my new #2 pick after Babcock. I'd really like to have him as coach. That being said, it's important to look at the pros AND cons of every coach we look at. No one knows McLellan's cons better than Sharks fans, just like no one knows Berube's cons better than Flyers fans. Just because he's moved on from the team, doesn't mean their concerns with him aren't legitimate. That being said, most SJ fans seem to be really sad that he's gone, which is quite the opposite from Berube.

I know very little about the players in the draft, but I do know the Flyers are going to have a variety of quality prospects to choose from at pick 7, if what they say about this draft is true.
- MJL

They are a very nice spot at 7, no need in my eyes to move up especially since the cost to even go 2 spots will be a high price.

McLellan is my new #2 pick after Babcock. I'd really like to have him as coach. That being said, it's important to look at the pros AND cons of every coach we look at. No one knows McLellan's cons better than Sharks fans, just like no one knows Berube's cons better than Flyers fans. Just because he's moved on from the team, doesn't mean their concerns with him aren't legitimate. That being said, most SJ fans seem to be really sad that he's gone, which is quite the opposite from Berube.
- JAKEw1234

Fans as a whole tend to invent a lot of things, and blame a lot of things on a coach, when a team either struggles or falls short of expectations. I don't personally feel the fans of teams as a whole are a reliable source. That may be an unpopular opinion, but that's what I've learned over the years. If the Flyers get McClellan, they'd have an outstanding coach behind the bench in my opinion.

Personally, no way would I give up a player to move up 2 spots. But that's just me.
- MJL

I get what you're saying but you also have to consider AMac going off the books and that if you don't make the move for Marner then the Devils will be running to the podium for him.

I know very little about the players in the draft, but I do know the Flyers are going to have a variety of quality prospects to choose from at pick 7, if what they say about this draft is true.
- MJL

I'm with you, stay put at 7th and hopefully landing Provorov. I also like Hereticpride's idea of moving up the TB pick to 10-14 range and getting a high end fwd.

I get what you're saying but you also have to consider AMac going off the books and that if you don't make the move for Marner then the Devils will be running to the podium for him.
- hereticpride

They get Marner; we get Barzal. Everyone is happy

I'm with you, stay put at 7th and hopefully landing Provorov. I also like Hereticpride's idea of moving up the TB pick to 10-14 range and getting a high end fwd.
- kellyblaise7

I can go either way with the 7th pick but if pushed I'd probably go forward & with the Tampa pick they can look at D unless they want 2 forwards.

Brandon Carlo (Tri City, WHL)
Jeremy Roy (Sherbrooke, QMJHL)
Jacob Larsson (Frolunda Jr, SWE-JR)
Oliver Kylington (Farjestads BK, SHL)
Noah Juulsen (Everett, WHL)
Vince Dunn (Niagara, OHL)

Fans as a whole tend to invent a lot of things, and blame a lot of things on a coach, when a team either struggles or falls short of expectations. I don't personally feel the fans of teams as a whole are a reliable source. That may be an unpopular opinion, but that's what I've learned over the years. If the Flyers get McClellan, they'd have an outstanding coach behind the bench in my opinion.
- MJL

If you take it with a grain of salt, it can be a really good way to get a feel for some of the complaints we will have as fans once the shine wears off.

All strong choices. I really do hope that they explore moving up with the 2nd pick though. I've got 13 or 14 very high end players in this draft. Would love to be able to move up to 12-14 and come out of this draft with two.
- hereticpride

I like that thinking. Hopefully get Provorov and then maybe in the middle part land Meir or Svenchikov?

Re: the Marner discussion earlier today.

I think if Marner makes it to 5 there could be a chance the Flyers and Canes could make a deal.

The Canes need D far more than they need anything else. If Marner falls to 5 it in all likelyhood means Hanafin or Provorov is off the board. Devils at 6... You have to imagine that team goes for a forward. So of that's the case the Canes can move down and get the same player at 7 while picking up assets.

So my idea last week was to give them 7 and AMac for 5 and the John Michael Likes(cap dump. One year left on his deal)

The Canes get the same player they would have drafted and get AMac (who is legitimately better than half their D men) for nothing but John Michael Miles and moving back two spots.

And if you scoff at AMac then I think you can still swing that deal with other players or a pick that won't hurt us all that much.
- hereticpride

If they were willing to trade 5 and Liles for 7 and MacDonald, I'd bite. Not really a Liles fan, but shorter term and a chance to move up without losing another pick(especially the TB pick) I'm in.

That said, I doubt they agree to that deal. They're going to want more.

If they were willing to trade 5 and Liles for 7 and MacDonald, I'd bite. Not really a Liles fan, but shorter term and a chance to move up without losing another pick(especially the TB pick) I'm in.
- Jsaquella

I just can't see Carolina having any interest in that move.

Re: the Marner discussion earlier today.

I think if Marner makes it to 5 there could be a chance the Flyers and Canes could make a deal.

The Canes need D far more than they need anything else. If Marner falls to 5 it in all likelyhood means Hanafin or Provorov is off the board. Devils at 6... You have to imagine that team goes for a forward. So of that's the case the Canes can move down and get the same player at 7 while picking up assets.

So my idea last week was to give them 7 and AMac for 5 and the John Michael Likes(cap dump. One year left on his deal)

The Canes get the same player they would have drafted and get AMac (who is legitimately better than half their D men) for nothing but John Michael Miles and moving back two spots.

And if you scoff at AMac then I think you can still swing that deal with other players or a pick that won't hurt us all that much.
- hereticpride

I hear you but didn't the Canes give up the fewest amount of goals per game this year? I believe it's the lack of scoring that kills them.

I know on paper they look like they could use some much needed depth on the blue line, but I can see them going Marner or Strome as well

I can go either way with the 7th pick but if pushed I'd probably go forward & with the Tampa pick they can look at D unless they want 2 forwards.

Brandon Carlo (Tri City, WHL)
Jeremy Roy (Sherbrooke, QMJHL)
Jacob Larsson (Frolunda Jr, SWE-JR)
Oliver Kylington (Farjestads BK, SHL)
Noah Juulsen (Everett, WHL)
Vince Dunn (Niagara, OHL)
- ob18

Yeah, I wouldn't mind forward either. My thought about adding another high end D prospect is just to increase the chances of developing a top 2 D pair and hopefully 1 Norris Dman because that's the toughest position to fill.

My biggest concern with the current lineup is 2nd line center though, so that's why I wouldn't mind a high end forward either.

I like that thinking. Hopefully get Provorov and then maybe in the middle part land Meir or Svenchikov?
- MatveiDmitrii

Yeah, I wouldn't mind forward either. My thought about adding another high end D prospect is just to increase the chances of developing a top 2 D pair and hopefully 1 Norris Dman because that's the toughest position to fill.

My biggest concern with the current lineup is 2nd line center though, so that's why I wouldn't mind a high end forward either.
- kellyblaise7

I'm kind of thinking now I go with 2 forwards since we really have nothing in the system that is top 6 worthy but maybe Aube-Kubel and/or Laughton

I know, something to complain about keep some going.
- ob18

Especially all those uninformed clueless clowns that complained about the Gouldbourne pick. I will give anyone 20-1 odds that Gouldbourne has a better NHL career than Duclair.

I just can't see Carolina having any interest in that move.
- ob18

See edit.

The Canes defense isn't great, but they do have Faulk, who is close to being a legit number one within the next couple years. Murphy is a good youngster and a guy like Hainsey is a solid depth veteran. They also have McKeown and Fleury in the system.

They could use a guy like MacDonald to solidify the current roster, but why trade down to add him, when you could add a guy like Paul Martin as a UFA? Or if they want to trade down, do it to the teens and target a guy like Chabot or Zboril and get a better player than AMac in the deal

Especially all those uninformed clueless clowns that complained about the Gouldbourne pick. I will give anyone 20-1 odds that Gouldbourne has a better NHL career than Duclair.
- PLindbergh31

I didn't mind him being picked just the round in which it happened

I'm kind of thinking now I go with 2 forwards since we really have nothing in the system that is top 6 worthy but maybe Aube-Kubel and/or Laughton
- ob18

Depends who is there for me. If Barzal goes to NJ at 6, I take Provorov at 7-assuming McDavid-Eichel-Hanifin-Strome-Marner go top 5-and then probably focus on F with TB pick