You've said multiple times you didn't even see a second of the game

Why are you whining about penalties that you didn't see?
- rangerdanger94

See this is the type of poop you are renown for.

Why do I need to watch a game when I can listen to it, read reviews, read the comments of my learned colleagues here are posting & watch highlights.

Are you the type of guy that gets magazines & only looks at the pictures? The less writing the better??? Very silly Dangerous!

You mean like these?




- jfkst1

Ha... Yeah, those are exactly the ones I'm thinking of. Just incredible they call some of that sh*t in the first and when the Pens start playing well, they don't get rewarded for their hard work. I guess the league wants the New York TV ratings.

At the risk of being called a "troll" right now, the Penguins didn't lose that game due to the refs last night. They lost because they didn't show up for the first 15 minutes, Crosby had no space/time to operate, and their defense is subpar.

See this is the type of poop you are renown for.

Why do I need to watch a game when I can listen to it, read reviews, read the comments of my learned colleagues here are posting & watch highlights.

Are you the type of guy that gets magazines & only looks at the pictures? The less writing the better??? Very silly Dangerous!
- Aussiepenguin

You're complaining about a penalty that you didn't see!

That's so Pittsburgh of you. I mean seriously.

At the risk of being called a "troll" right now, the Penguins didn't lose that game due to the refs last night. They lost because they didn't show up for the first 15 minutes, Crosby had no space/time to operate, and their defense is subpar.
- jmatchett383

I agree. The officiating was frustrating, how ever the Pens were severely out played and did not deserve to win that game. And not to be a negative Nancy, but say those calls against the Rangers had been made, what excatly were we expecting? Have you been watching this team the last 2 months, the Rangers probably would have buried a shorty. LOL

Ha... Yeah, those are exactly the ones I'm thinking of. Just incredible they call some of that sh*t in the first and when the Pens start playing well, they don't get rewarded for their hard work. I guess the league wants the New York TV ratings.
- madmike71

They are deliberately inconsistent depending on the situation. Penalties in the 1st period don't get called in the 3rd. If Comeau is going to get a call in the first, then that holding (roughing) needs to be called in the first image is a penalty too. If Chorney interfered with Glass, then those are interference penalties in the other two images. I don't believe it's a conspiracy against the Pens, but I do think the refs are selective in when they enforce the rules. From the Rags perspective, Nash's boarding call happens dozens of times a game without calls. I don't understand how the league can allow such incompetence.

I agree. The officiating was frustrating, how ever the Pens were severely out played and did not deserve to win that game. And not to be a negative Nancy, but say those calls against the Rangers had been made, what excatly were we expecting? Have you been watching this team the last 2 months, the Rangers probably would have buried a shorty. LOL
- Willaged

this is true, it feels like weve been outscored while on the power play the last month or 2...losing letang and even ehrhoff and pouliout is the dagger here I think, lovejoy is meh, not terrible but not that solid either, cole is basically the same as far as I have seen, and dumo and chorney are rookies...oh and malkin and sid are probably going to need to contribute offensively if we want any remote chance at making this series go longer than 4 games

At the risk of being called a "troll" right now, the Penguins didn't lose that game due to the refs last night. They lost because they didn't show up for the first 15 minutes, Crosby had no space/time to operate, and their defense is subpar.
- jmatchett383

The Rags have a better roster and deserved to win last night, probably by a wider margin than they did. However, the refs were wildly inconsistent and it mostly worked in the Rags favor with the exception of the Nash call.

really hope Fleury doesnt find his game this series... he is your X factor... also i agree, why is Crosby not on the PK?? top 3 player in the game should be on the ice in every situation... with Crosby's speed he would be a nightmare on the PK...

btw, i would kill to have Lapierre on the rangers... he is a pain to play against.

Hey Pens Fans answer me this. What happens to a team that plays pretty much most of the period in their own end? A team that can't keep up with the pace the other team is playing at? A team who is playing a bunch of rookie defensemen who are defending against one of the highest scoring teams 5 on 5 in the league? Hmmm......is it THAT hard to imagine that they will be taking a lot of penalties because they are out of position? Because they are being outplayed? Because they are taking liberties to catch the puck and try to clear it?

The most ridiculous thing I hear people say (fans of all teams) is "Call it even". If you called the game even, there is no point in calling anything. If you called it even, there is no fear of committing illegal plays because a player would know that it would be called even. If the game is being called even, then it is being played even. That was hardly the case in the 1st period when the Rangers pretty much dominated the Pens for 20 minutes. Guess what? When that happens, you get called for penalties. Do you honestly think that a team that has the puck in the offensive zone is gonna get called for just as many offensive zone penalties as the team with out the puck defending??? Seriously???

Not to mention, the Pens were the most penalized club in the regular season. Not noticing a trend????

You wanna blame something? Blame your team's injuries, thats fine. Blame your team's inability to play the game at the Rangers pace. Blame the bonehead you call Downie. Blame Perron's complete ineffectiveness. Blame game 1 nerves. But don't blame the refs who called the game as it was played. Yes I watched the game on MSG, but they usually call the game pretty fair. They ALWAYS say when the Rangers get away with a non call, and they pretty much call out bad hockey when its happening. The Pens undisciplined play was noted in the 1st period, they were called dumb a number of times because the penalties they took were simply that, dumb and unnecessary.

Penguins trade Malkin to the Jets for Byfuglien, 2015 first, 2016 first and 2017 second.

I agree. The officiating was frustrating, how ever the Pens were severely out played and did not deserve to win that game. And not to be a negative Nancy, but say those calls against the Rangers had been made, what excatly were we expecting? Have you been watching this team the last 2 months, the Rangers probably would have buried a shorty. LOL
- Willaged

But if we are completely honest I would think most of thought it was going to be 4 or 5 goals against to possibly zero. We played bad & still had a chance. We can play a lot better, where as they are probably not going to get much better - they dominated everything if what was said on the radio was right. 2-1 away. Hopefully they get going early next game & not so many penalties - especially the facial massage ones.

The Rags have a better roster and deserved to win last night, probably by a wider margin than they did. However, the refs were wildly inconsistent and it mostly worked in the Rags favor with the exception of the Nash call.
- jfkst1

Whether it's right or wrong, reputation plays a factor in how the refs call a game and for a team with guys like Downie and Lapierre along with this notion that Malkin and Crosby are sneaky dirty, you won't get a lot of slack. The Rangers are disciplined and have a reputation for playing clean.

At the risk of being called a "troll" right now, the Penguins didn't lose that game due to the refs last night. They lost because they didn't show up for the first 15 minutes, Crosby had no space/time to operate, and their defense is subpar.
- jmatchett383

You mean the Penguins had a period where they seemed nonexistant, again? gasps.

Or, if they don't get the favorable bounce and the early goal, the game would have likely gone to OT... and... well, I think most agree that playoff OT is a coin flip no matter the matchup.

But if we are completely honest I would think most of thought it was going to be 4 or 5 goals against to possibly zero. We played bad & still had a chance. We can play a lot better, where as they are probably not going to get much better - they dominated everything if what was said on the radio was right. 2-1 away. Hopefully they get going early next game & not so many penalties - especially the facial massage ones.
- Aussiepenguin

The Rangers didn't play up to potential at all imo

Penguins trade Malkin to the Jets for Byfuglien, 2015 first, 2016 first and 2017 second.
- TheUltimateJet

No, I don't want Byfuglien after the crosscheck he delivered. If we are going to keep criticizing others for cheap shots, we are NOT pursuing the player who is in the running for having the dirtiest hit of the year.

At the risk of being called a "troll" right now, the Penguins didn't lose that game due to the refs last night. They lost because they didn't show up for the first 15 minutes, Crosby had no space/time to operate, and their defense is subpar.
- jmatchett383

No offense dude, but this is ridiculous. Games have ebbs and flows. Certainly the Pens were horrible in the first, but when they started getting their legs, the rules were different.

So basically, the Refs rewarded the Rags hard work in the 1st with 4 PP's, but then refused to reward the Pens for their hard work in the 3rd.....because hey "we want to let the players decide the game". Joke.

Whether it's right or wrong, reputation plays a factor in how the refs call a game and for a team with guys like Downie and Lapierre along with this notion that Malkin and Crosby are sneaky dirty, you won't get a lot of slack. The Rangers are disciplined and have a reputation for playing clean.
- rangerdanger94

Nash doesn't have a bad rep and that was a poor call on his boarding that happens dozens of time a game without a call. Refs shouldn't be officiating based on reputation. If they do, they should be fired. That's inexcusable. Also, Downie is the only one that is dirty out of that collection of Pens you mentioned.

really hope Fleury doesnt find his game this series... he is your X factor... also i agree, why is Crosby not on the PK?? top 3 player in the game should be on the ice in every situation... with Crosby's speed he would be a nightmare on the PK...

btw, i would kill to have Lapierre on the rangers... he is a pain to play against.
- richardson30

He is put on the PK in the 3rd grouping to my knowledge, or when time is low after a stopping with the intent to win a faceoff and push to the opposing zone as the player comes out of the box.

Penguins trade Malkin to the Jets for Byfuglien, 2015 first, 2016 first and 2017 second.
- TheUltimateJet

Id do buff, the 2 first rounders, and mark scheifle, but geno isnt waiving to go to the peg

And another comment about penalties...penalties will always differ from series to series...its a known thing to players and fans. The players know who's reffing the game and get an idea of how the game will be called. It will be different when you watch a different series because penalties are often also called with the flow of the game. If the game gets real chippy and lacks flow, more penalties are generally called.

Secondly, if your the team carrying play, you will generally get more latitude because they are promoting offense. Not to say that an offensive penalty is never called, its is quite often. But more often than not, if you are the team that is pinned your end, getting horribly outplayed, can't get the puck, YOU KNOW that a penalty is coming. Thats the way hockey has always been.

Thirdly, the Rangers are just faster than the Pens. That in itself will help them with positioning and that will always make them look better in eyes of the Ref. The players that are slower will always look like the ones out of position and reaching, grabbing, clutching in order to make plays. The guys who keep their feet moving, generally don't need to cheat in order to make the play.

And to the guy who keeps talking about interference on dump ins. The rule is simple. The defender cannot leave his lane. If you dump the puck in, the defender can follow up the play and stop your forward progression if you are traveling in the same lane. The defenseman can even pivot to play you as long as he doesn't change the momentum direction he was going. Once he starts traveling a different direction to check the player, it becomes obstruction.

Nash doesn't have a bad rep and that was a poor call on his boarding that happens dozens of time a game without a call. Refs shouldn't be officiating based on reputation. If they do, they should be fired. That's inexcusable. Also, Downie is the only one that is dirty out of that collection of Pens you mentioned.
- jfkst1

That was a boarding dude

The Rangers didn't play up to potential at all imo
- rangerdanger94

They didn't score the goals they usually do. The shooting % was less than half or a third or something like that. You score 4/5 goals then there's no problem with your game & it's a wipeout.

Must be late I'm entertaining your commentary!

Penguins trade Malkin to the Jets for Byfuglien, 2015 first, 2016 first and 2017 second.
- TheUltimateJet

Or nah lol

That was a boarding dude
- rangerdanger94

Does my thinking Nash is just a douche count as a bad rep?