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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 7 @ 1:26 PM ET
moulson couldn't hang on a top line with JT but he will thrive with crosby?
gringo is going to play defense?
gionta is going to be the next gordie howe?
stewart is going to come back and give a poop?
oduya is going to come here?
risto is going to run a top 8 pp?
pysyk and mccabe are now knowns?


let alone the pk issues and goaltending issues

lot of if's to build around a player that is one hit away from being out of the game

- homiedclown


EVERY SINGLE PLAYER is that way, not just Crosby. Taylor Hall is another skate blade to the face away from being out of the league.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:27 PM ET
Kane-Crosby-Moulson
Ennis-McDavid/Eichel-Girgensons
Gionta-Grigorenko-Hodgson
Deslauries-LArsson-Varone

Risto-Bogo
Pysyk-Gorges
McCabe-???


You still have all of these prospects:
Schaller
Dalpe
Fasching
Compher
Baptiste
Bailey
Petersen
Carrier
Cornel
Hurley
Possler

- ImThatGuy


I would rather get MALKIN (Size Matters) and I've liked how he takes over when Sid is out, looks like he would blossom if he was the "Go-to-Guy" and should take less to get.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:28 PM ET
You do realize Crosby is more of a sure thing than Zad, Reinhart(who i expect to be good) and 3 first round picks.

2016 first round pick 2-3 years away. 2017 first round pick 2-3 years away. thats 6+ years right there.

- ImThatGuy

this will go one forever

crosby is one hit away from being out of the game

your giving up 4 years worth of assets from tanking for him


it's like saying if the raiders got rodgers from the packers for 2 firsts, their 3 best players on d and their 3 best players on o, then the raiders become super bowl contenders for the next 6 years


ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 7 @ 1:28 PM ET
+1

Theres also about 15 guys who play a better all-around game than him.

okay now I'm done.

- DynamicThreads


I'll bite, please name them.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:28 PM ET
EVERY SINGLE PLAYER is that way, not just Crosby. Taylor Hall is another skate blade to the face away from being out of the league.
- ImThatGuy

yeah and your giving up 9 players for a potential future tim connolly
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:29 PM ET
moulson couldn't hang on a top line with JT but he will thrive with crosby?
gringo is going to play defense?
gionta is going to be the next gordie howe?
stewart is going to come back and give a poop?
oduya is going to come here?
risto is going to run a top 8 pp?
pysyk and mccabe are now knowns?


let alone the pk issues and goaltending issues

lot of if's to build around a player that is one hit away from being out of the game

- homiedclown



This is the bigger issue IMO. 13/14 players for a guy that is a Jamie Macoun elbow away from green jello day.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:29 PM ET
Crosby is 28. Its not like he is over the hill. this squad with the right players gets you there now.
- ImThatGuy

mike richards agrees
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:29 PM ET
This is the bigger issue IMO. 13/14 players for a guy that is a Jamie Macoun elbow away from green jello day.
- dadeadhead

I do like green jello though
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
mike richards agrees
- homiedclown


one hit away from being out of the league after his concussion in 2011.


Giroux - one hit away from being out of the league after his 2012 concussion
Stamkos - one hiot away from being out of the league after his 2010 concussion
leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
so would stevie wonder
- homiedclown


He would?

Who's the Masters pick this year? Jordan Spieth has been playing some pretty nice golf but I would really like to see Rickie Fowler in the last grouping Sunday.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
yeah and your giving up 9 players for a potential future tim connolly
- homiedclown



It's more than 9 players.

Reinhart
Zads
Foligno
Prospect
6 picks in 15
2 picks in 16
1 pick in 17

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:32 PM ET
one hit away from being out of the league after his concussion in 2011.
- ImThatGuy

no, a player who can't keep up with the young players and has become a fringe 4th line nhl player at 29
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Apr 7 @ 1:33 PM ET
EVERY SINGLE PLAYER is that way, not just Crosby. Taylor Hall is another skate blade to the face away from being out of the league.
- ImThatGuy

yes but not every player has a strong history of concussions.. once you have them it seems to be easier to get the second and third.. at this point i would think if he got another he might just retire so that he doesn't get Alzheimers at 40
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:33 PM ET
I just don't get how I'm told to "do math" because Crosby's ppg is slightly higher than Kane's now, after the season is over, when at the time of Kane's injury, Crosby was far behind Kane in ppg and total points

- DynamicThreads


Your argument was "Kane would have beat him by a landslide", yet his PPG are lower. That is math. Predicting that he would have torn it up even more is just guessing.

Kane has beaten Crosby's current year P/Game pace only once in his career, and that was in the shortened season.

Crosby has only played 50 games more than Kane in their careers and he scores at a 1.36 pts/game pace. Kane is just shy of 1/game.

All of this coming from a guy (me) who loves Kane and hates Crosby
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:33 PM ET
He would?

Who's the Masters pick this year? Jordan Spieth has been playing some pretty nice golf but I would really like to see Rickie Fowler in the last grouping Sunday.

- leonwaldo420

I have spieth, fowler, casey and garcia in my 4 man money pool
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 7 @ 1:33 PM ET
one hit away from being out of the league after his concussion in 2011.


Giroux - one hit away from being out of the league after his 2012 concussion
Stamkos - one hiot away from being out of the league after his 2010 concussion

- ImThatGuy



I think people just like to hate crosby the same way they do with Lebron, Brady, Messi/Ronaldo..
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:34 PM ET
It's more than 9 players.

Reinhart
Zads
Foligno
Prospect
6 picks in 15
2 picks in 16
1 pick in 17

- dadeadhead

so in essence we would be giving the entire blue jackets roster for 1 player
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
no, a player who can't keep up with the young players and has become a fringe 4th line nhl player at 29
- homiedclown


So because Richards had is happen it means Crosby is alson going to have it happen.

Better never go after Claude Giroux if made available cause Mike Richards slowed down at 29.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
I think people just like to hate crosby the same way they do with Lebron, Brady, Messi/Ronaldo..
- Sabresfan-365

I don't hate him

i'd give up risto, reinhart and our later first rd pick for him

if they are looking to turn the page


but that's about it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:36 PM ET
So because Richards had is happen it means Crosby is alson going to have it happen.

Better never go after Claude Giroux if made available cause Mike Richards slowed down at 29.

- ImThatGuy

I'd love to play poker with you
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Apr 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
eff off guy, Cam Ward is such a beady eyed douche.
- TheSabresTaco

Fixed
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
So because Richards had is happen it means Crosby is alson going to have it happen.

Better never go after Claude Giroux if made available cause Mike Richards slowed down at 29.

- ImThatGuy

I noticed you glanced over my joe thornton stats vs crosby over the last 33 playoff games

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
I don't hate him

i'd give up risto, reinhart and our later first rd pick for him

if they are looking to turn the page


but that's about it

- homiedclown



Like Kessel, I'm not giving up a bucket of piss for either.

Both have No thank you clauses and neither IMO are waiving to come here.

Crosby will retire a Penguin as he should.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 7 @ 1:39 PM ET
Well this is some entertaining bullpoop right here...
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:40 PM ET
Well this is some entertaining bullpoop right here...
- jochfr



IDK about entertaining.....
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