So AV reads this thread:

MSL skating with Hayes and Hagelin

Fast down to the 4th line with Glass and Moore

Shepherd is the extra

McIlrath is developing right on schedule? Really. That schedule sucks my ass.
- Pete V

It's too bad it's an inconvenient truth to you. Keep holding him to that 1st round pedestal and you'll remain disappointed.

It's too bad it's an inconvenient truth to you. Keep holding him to that 1st round pedestal and you'll remain disappointed.
- MatzCT

I think fans just would've expected Chara not eric cairns being drafted that high. Which I think is fair to say that's about all he'll be at the very best

It's too bad it's an inconvenient truth to you. Keep holding him to that 1st round pedestal and you'll remain disappointed.
- MatzCT

I don't think this whole argument matters to be honest. McIlrath can't clear through waivers freely next year so if he doesn't break camp with the Rangers someone else might claim him anyway.

It's too bad it's an inconvenient truth to you. Keep holding him to that 1st round pedestal and you'll remain disappointed.
- MatzCT

He was the 10th overall pick in the 2010 draft. Do you really think he is developing according to the Rangers then schedule? So, the Rangers drafted a guy in the Top 10 in 2010, and still didn't expect him to be in the NHL? That was their schedule? Do you really honestly believe that?

So, it's just the inconvenient truth that I refuse to ackonwledge? That I have some how have unrealistic expectations for him, and this was all part of some grand plan. O.k. Maybe that's the case. Or, maybe it's the case that he'll being playing Top minutes in the Swiss league in two years. Maybe that's the inconvenient truth. Or maybe its the inconvenient truth that the polar ice caps are melting, and New York maybe under water by the time McIlrath's development schedule has completed.

I agree it is a luxury and the best dman should fill the void but prospects are developed to fill a void. It's also a luxury if they can play multiple positions.

The book on McIlrath you read is from people who haven't followed him. So that book is crap. Summers is a 27 year old Hunwick 2.0 clone with poor desicsion making, McIlrath is 22 and playing top pairing in Hartford and developing right on schedule.

Also the ideas to turn him into a 4th line winger are retarded, again coming from people who haven't seen him play more than a game or so. It's the dumbest f*cking idea I read around here of late.
- MatzCT

Are you in CT or CO confused by your tag/location

I don't think this whole argument matters to be honest. McIlrath can't clear through waivers freely next year so if he doesn't break camp with the Rangers someone else might claim him anyway.
- TPC

Even more of an argument to try the wing. It's no doubt we could use his toughness in the lineup but not as a liability on D. What's his year in Hartford? Stats?

That all maybe be true, I don't know for sure either. My point is simply that he's actually developing at a normal pace for a big d-man. So the ship hasn't sailed, the bust judgement is still to be made.

But how nice would it have been to have someone like him sticking up for team mates yesterday when Buf is crosschecking Miller and Zucc like that? I bet he wouldn't have stood by for that.

I think he fits the style just fine considering half of our or at least Girardi and Klein are n't the fleetest of foot. Players like Yandle need a stay at home partner. To me any reservation thus far is simply because he's 22 on a veteran team looking to win now, depth and experience is what AV prefers.
- MatzCT

Klein and Girardi don't have great speed but it doesn't mean they don't skate well. You're also underrating the skill that Klein and Girardi possess not to mention they are highly intelligent players. Now is McIlrath a smart player? I don't know, but he can't skate and by the sound of things he has hands of stone. That type of D-man is becoming somewhat obsolete.

He was the 10th overall pick in the 2010 draft. Do you really think he is developing according to the Rangers then schedule? So, the Rangers drafted a guy in the Top 10 in 2010, and still didn't expect him to be in the NHL? That was their schedule? Do you really honestly believe that?

So, it's just the inconvenient truth that I refuse to ackonwledge? That I have some how have unrealistic expectations for him, and this was all part of some grand plan. O.k. Maybe that's the case. Or, maybe it's the case that he'll being playing Top minutes in the Swiss league in two years. Maybe that's the inconvenient truth. Or maybe its the inconvenient truth that the polar ice caps are melting, and New York maybe under water by the time McIlrath's development schedule has completed.
- Pete V

#crankyPete

Klein and Girardi don't have great speed but it doesn't mean they don't skate well. You're also underrating the skill that Klein and Girardi possess not to mention they are highly intelligent players. Now is McIlrath a smart player? I don't know, but he can't skate and by the sound of things he has hands of stone. That type of D-man is becoming somewhat obsolete.
- Blueshirts4ever

Agree. I will be absolutely shocked if you ever hear McIlrath chants of some sort at MSG. He was a bad draft pick, it happens. It's ok, We've survived without him lol

Agree. I will be absolutely shocked if you ever hear McIlrath chants of some sort at MSG. He was a bad draft pick, it happens. It's ok, We've survived without him lol
- Slimtj100

I just dont have high hopes for a kid who isn't better than Matt Hunwick. No disprespect to Hunwick.

He was the 10th overall pick in the 2010 draft. Do you really think he is developing according to the Rangers then schedule? So, the Rangers drafted a guy in the Top 10 in 2010, and still didn't expect him to be in the NHL? That was their schedule? Do you really honestly believe that?

So, it's just the inconvenient truth that I refuse to ackonwledge? That I have some how have unrealistic expectations for him, and this was all part of some grand plan. O.k. Maybe that's the case. Or, maybe it's the case that he'll being playing Top minutes in the Swiss league in two years. Maybe that's the inconvenient truth. Or maybe its the inconvenient truth that the polar ice caps are melting, and New York maybe under water by the time McIlrath's development schedule has completed.
- Pete V

I just dont have high hopes for a kid who isn't better than Matt Hunwick. No disprespect to Hunwick.
- Blueshirts4ever

Certainly says a lot about him

I'd bet steve eminger would be playing before McIlrath lol

I'm gonna pull a vin and quit this site

I'm gonna pull a vin and quit this site
- rangerdanger94

I'm gonna pull a vin and quit this site
- rangerdanger94

Some how I have a feeling whatever it is you are referring too, you aren't completely innocent.

I'm gonna pull a vin and quit this site
- rangerdanger94

I think we should all stop talking about McIlrath until he gets here.

Well after 6 years as a prospect it's either that or trade him/let him go. It's just as dumb to see him an NHL a Dman at this point, because it ain't happening. At least in NYC it isn't
- Slimtj100

Johnny Boychuk spent 5 full seasons in the AHL before being promoted to the Bruins.

Anyone notice how Hayes made 2-3 great passes Hagelin that resulted in whiffed shots, or mishandled pucks? AV really needs to pair Hayes up with a finisher...I'm hoping MSL will be that but unfortunately, MSL also shows the ability to misplay prime chances too much. I wish he would play Hayes with Nash. Nash would miraculously find the puck on his tape all the time. I think Nash's biggest problem right now is, he's not getting the puck where he can be dangerous and he's being played too tight when he carries the puck to get to that area himself. Hayes can make the surprise passes that will find him when he's in those areas creating time for Nash to shoot.

Johnny Boychuk spent 5 full seasons in the AHL before being promoted to the Bruins.
- Downeaster

Yeah but was that because the B's didn't have a spot for him or because he looked like McIlrath everytime he played with the big boys?

Yeah but was that because the B's didn't have a spot for him or because he looked like McIlrath everytime he played with the big boys?
- xcheckmajor

Listen, again, people want to wave the McIlrath pom poms fine, but don't get upset when A LOT of people don't like the guy 5 years after being drafted at #10. If he makes it, we'll all gladly eat crow, but I won't hold my breath for that to happen.

So, on to tomorrow night. We busted the Hamburglar up, it would be nice to be the rude visitor to Deven Dubnyk

New York Rangers ‏@NYRangers now13 seconds ago
After #NYR practice in St. Paul today Martin St. Louis confirms he is good to go and return to lineup tomorrow

New York Rangers ‏@NYRangers now13 seconds ago
After #NYR practice in St. Paul today Martin St. Louis confirms he is good to go and return to lineup tomorrow
- mrhattrick27

Keep everyone healthy until Klein gets back and let's roll!!

Listen, again, people want to wave the McIlrath pom poms fine, but don't get upset when A LOT of people don't like the guy 5 years after being drafted at #10. If he makes it, we'll all gladly eat crow, but I won't hold my breath for that to happen.
- B2B76

(frank) eating crow. You guys will eat my poop after he becomes a fan favorite.