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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 1 @ 1:07 PM ET
How so? righty vs lefty. McIlrath can replace Boyle, no one else to fill that role coming through the system. Skjei's path is to replace a Yandle or a Staal eventually.
- MatzCT


Staal definitely ain't goin anywhere. Signed until 2021 with a NTC
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
I hope Buff is only suspended a game, but my bet is 2. I want them to keep LA out of it.
MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Apr 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
Staal definitely ain't goin anywhere. Signed until 2021 with a NTC
- jimbro83

People keep mentioning the ntc on players yet they are moved all the time. But there's no need to discuss 2016 roster changes, I'm sure we'd both be wrong.

There is no reason to rush Skjei, Staal is signed and a decision on Yandle will need to be made next year. So barring major injuries there's nothing wrong with Skjei playing in Hartford for a bit and getting an occasional call up.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Apr 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
I hope Buff is only suspended a game, but my bet is 2. I want them to keep LA out of it.
- mrhattrick27


I know I'm in the minority but I don't care about the Kings. If the Rangers are so lucky to get back to the SCFs and the Kings are there so be it.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Apr 1 @ 1:25 PM ET
People keep mentioning the ntc on players yet they are moved all the time. But there's no need to discuss 2016 roster changes, I'm sure we'd both be wrong.

There is no reason to rush Skjei, Staal is signed and a decision on Yandle will need to be made next year. So barring major injuries there's nothing wrong with Skjei playing in Hartford for a bit and getting an occasional call up.

- MatzCT


what players with NTC's are moved all the time
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Apr 1 @ 1:28 PM ET
I know I'm in the minority but I don't care about the Kings. If the Rangers are so lucky to get back to the SCFs and the Kings are there so be it.
- Pete V



Not afraid of any team making the playoffs this season.
xcheckmajor
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 06.28.2013

Apr 1 @ 1:30 PM ET
Skjei signed an ELC contract according to Zip on twitter.
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:41 PM ET
I know I'm in the minority but I don't care about the Kings. If the Rangers are so lucky to get back to the SCFs and the Kings are there so be it.
- Pete V


I'm not looking at it from a Ranger Fan standpoint but a hockey fan standpoint. Like you I can't be concerned with potential cup matchups.

I want to see the team that some are stating as the best in the league and will tear up the playoffs, with very cocky proponents to absolutely fall on their faces. I also think Canada keeps the playoffs more interesting and would like to see WPG and CGY make it.

With my luck, I'll get my wish, and then they will get McDavid....
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:44 PM ET
Funny, I will admit I was a bit concerned about the fact that the hottest teams entering the playoffs usually continue that throughout the playoffs to make deep runs and we've been sliding a bit. But if you look at the standings. No one in the east is tearing it up at the moment and we aren't the only ones.

And yes, we won last night, but were outplayed. Do you think the team plays different in front of Talbot than Hank? Or coincidence?
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
How so? righty vs lefty. McIlrath can replace Boyle, no one else to fill that role coming through the system. Skjei's path is to replace a Yandle or a Staal eventually.
- MatzCT

Righty lefty balance is a luxury. Most teams don't have it. I think AV would ather sacrifice the dominant hand issue for his 6 or 7 best d-men. The book on McIlrath is he can't skate. I don't see him play. But even if I did. Who cares? The Rangers see him play and has been here but one time. They dealt for Summers for depth. If they believed McIlrath was good enough they could've used him as a depth d man. If Skjei has a better camp than DM he will make the team before DM does. I hope I'm wrong. Skjei has top 4 potential and is a puck mover.
AmazingSav
New York Rangers
Location: Unfortunately Philly, PA
Joined: 06.23.2014

Apr 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
Funny, I will admit I was a bit concerned about the fact that the hottest teams entering the playoffs usually continue that throughout the playoffs to make deep runs and we've been sliding a bit. But if you look at the standings. No one in the east is tearing it up at the moment and we aren't the only ones.

And yes, we won last night, but were outplayed. Do you think the team plays different in front of Talbot than Hank? Or coincidence?

- mrhattrick27


Don't think it's different play as much as a different way of approaching puck possession in the D-end. Talbot is like having a 3rd defenseman they way he handled the puck and they can confidently take a pass from him as opposed to hank who kind of just dumps the puck down the boards towards players and needing the D to go back and take possession.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
@AGrossRecord: St. Louis skating on Hayes' right wing along with Hagelin. Fast in Moore's fourth line with Glass. Sheppard the extra forward.
MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Apr 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
what players with NTC's are moved all the time
- jimbro83

Gaborik, Nash, St. Loius, Kesler, Eriksson, Spezza, Clarkson, Eric Cole, Jame Neal, Bouwmeester, and I'm sure there are plenty of others in recent years.

Zbynek Michalek had one, trade twice now on that contract.

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
@AGrossRecord: St. Louis skating on Hayes' right wing along with Hagelin. Fast in Moore's fourth line with Glass. Sheppard the extra forward.
- Blueshirts4ever



Figured that was going to happen. I know people say oh we need Glass in the line up because no one else fights. After what Buff did last night with no repercussions from Glass, I think that argument is a moot point now.
MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Apr 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
Righty lefty balance is a luxury. Most teams don't have it. I think AV would ather sacrifice the dominant hand issue for his 6 or 7 best d-men. The book on McIlrath is he can't skate. I don't see play. But even if I did. Who cares? The Rangers see him play and has been here but one time. They dealt for Summers for depth. If they believed McIlrath was good enough they could've used him as a depth d man. If Skjei has a better camp than DM he will make the team before DM does. I hope I'm wrong. Skjei has too 4 potential and is a puck mover.
- Blueshirts4ever

I agree it is a luxury and the best dman should fill the void but prospects are developed to fill a void. It's also a luxury if they can play multiple positions.

The book on McIlrath you read is from people who haven't followed him. So that book is crap. Summers is a 27 year old Hunwick 2.0 clone with poor desicsion making, McIlrath is 22 and playing top pairing in Hartford and developing right on schedule.

Also the ideas to turn him into a 4th line winger are retarded, again coming from people who haven't seen him play more than a game or so. It's the dumbest f*cking idea I read around here of late.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
Funny, I will admit I was a bit concerned about the fact that the hottest teams entering the playoffs usually continue that throughout the playoffs to make deep runs and we've been sliding a bit. But if you look at the standings. No one in the east is tearing it up at the moment and we aren't the only ones.

And yes, we won last night, but were outplayed. Do you think the team plays different in front of Talbot than Hank? Or coincidence?

- mrhattrick27

No, the Rangers had a few uneven performances in from of Talbot and still won games.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
I agree it is a luxury and the best dman should fill the void but prospects are developed to fill a void. It's also a luxury if they can play multiple positions.

The book on McIlrath you read is from people who haven't followed him. So that book is crap. Summers is a 27 year old Hunwick 2.0 clone with poor desicsion making, McIlrath is 22 and playing top pairing in Hartford and developing right on schedule.

Also the ideas to turn him into a 4th line winger are retarded, again coming from people who haven't seen him play more than a game or so. It's the dumbest f*cking idea I read around here of late.

- MatzCT

I hope you're right. I want nothing but success for the kid bc that means success for the team. I just don't know if this coaching staff sees him as a fit for the style that they want to play.
richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Apr 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
@AGrossRecord: St. Louis skating on Hayes' right wing along with Hagelin. Fast in Moore's fourth line with Glass. Sheppard the extra forward.
- Blueshirts4ever



$500 to who ever takes Glass out!! he better not touch the ice come playoffs... 1 goal in 82 games an NHL forward does not make. i said it when he scored, he accidently missed missing the net.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 1 @ 2:09 PM ET
Figured that was going to happen. I know people say oh we need Glass in the line up because no one else fights. After what Buff did last night with no repercussions from Glass, I think that argument is a moot point now.
- mdw7413

But Glass has been much better lately and AV loves him. He doesn't care what we think
richardson30
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.07.2012

Apr 1 @ 2:09 PM ET
Figured that was going to happen. I know people say oh we need Glass in the line up because no one else fights. After what Buff did last night with no repercussions from Glass, I think that argument is a moot point now.
- mdw7413


i would rather an NHL player than a bad boxer on skates... no one fights in the playoffs... goons are no longer required. Glass is literally a goon. he cant play hockey, can simply only fight.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: JT Millers backyard, NY
Joined: 03.04.2013

Apr 1 @ 2:10 PM ET
I agree it is a luxury and the best dman should fill the void but prospects are developed to fill a void. It's also a luxury if they can play multiple positions.

The book on McIlrath you read is from people who haven't followed him. So that book is crap. Summers is a 27 year old Hunwick 2.0 clone with poor desicsion making, McIlrath is 22 and playing top pairing in Hartford and developing right on schedule.

Also the ideas to turn him into a 4th line winger are retarded, again coming from people who haven't seen him play more than a game or so. It's the dumbest f*cking idea I read around here of late.

- MatzCT



Well after 6 years as a prospect it's either that or trade him/let him go. It's just as dumb to see him an NHL a Dman at this point, because it ain't happening. At least in NYC it isn't
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Apr 1 @ 2:13 PM ET
I agree it is a luxury and the best dman should fill the void but prospects are developed to fill a void. It's also a luxury if they can play multiple positions.

The book on McIlrath you read is from people who haven't followed him. So that book is crap. Summers is a 27 year old Hunwick 2.0 clone with poor desicsion making, McIlrath is 22 and playing top pairing in Hartford and developing right on schedule.

Also the ideas to turn him into a 4th line winger are retarded, again coming from people who haven't seen him play more than a game or so. It's the dumbest f*cking idea I read around here of late.

- MatzCT


McIlrath is developing right on schedule? Really. That schedule sucks my ass.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 1 @ 2:13 PM ET
But Glass has been much better lately and AV loves him. He doesn't care what we think
- Blueshirts4ever




Well the sad thing Sil is what is considered much better for Glass would bench most players since the bar has been set so low.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: JT Millers backyard, NY
Joined: 03.04.2013

Apr 1 @ 2:14 PM ET
McIlrath is developing right on schedule? Really. That schedule sucks my ass.
- Pete V



I'm surprised at how many people think he's still in the plans. I just don't see it
MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Apr 1 @ 2:15 PM ET
I hope you're right. I want nothing but success for the kid bc that means success for the team. I just don't know if this coaching staff sees him as a fit for the style that they want to play.
- Blueshirts4ever

That all maybe be true, I don't know for sure either. My point is simply that he's actually developing at a normal pace for a big d-man. So the ship hasn't sailed, the bust judgement is still to be made.

But how nice would it have been to have someone like him sticking up for team mates yesterday when Buf is crosschecking Miller and Zucc like that? I bet he wouldn't have stood by for that.

I think he fits the style just fine considering half of our or at least Girardi and Klein are n't the fleetest of foot. Players like Yandle need a stay at home partner. To me any reservation thus far is simply because he's 22 on a veteran team looking to win now, depth and experience is what AV prefers.
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