68.342 % of all stats are made up.

Some people say that the Rangers have one of the best defenses in the league and you haven't mentioned any of them. Seems odd.
- abmjimmy

He mentioned Yandle 7 times and Girardi once.

You came to your senses Tanner

He mentioned Yandle 7 times and Girardi once.
- Dangles13

I will say Yandle is a stud defensively

Everyone and their mothers doubted Yandle in that regard but Yandle has been more impressive defensively than offensively so far. Maybe James is onto something?

Yes he does, because when he's on the ice, his team generally doesn't need to play defense. I would rank Karlsson easy in the top ten of guys I'd want on the ice to protect a one goal lead.

You can make an argument that Subban and Weber are both elite defensemen, but I think Suter as a top ten NHL D is impossible to defend.
- James_Tanner

You should not be blogging. You shouldn't. When you post things like this, as a writer, some less knowledgeable posters (and by that, I mean less knowledgeable than the average hockey fan, not less knowledgeable than you), may think it's true.

Any one with a brain watching the Bs v Ottawa game can see that Karlsson is not a top five D man in this league.

The guy is a turnover machine.

And most importantly, does not seem to want to play D. Just my observation.

Any one with a brain watching the Bs v Ottawa game can see that Karlsson is not a top five D man in this league.

The guy is a turnover machine.

And most importantly, does not seem to want to play D. Just my observation.
- JIwasinskiJr

He's not a D-men, he's the 4th forward.

Any one with a brain watching the Bs v Ottawa game can see that Karlsson is not a top five D man in this league.

The guy is a turnover machine.

And most importantly, does not seem to want to play D. Just my observation.
- JIwasinskiJr

Bad game for him. Normally average on D, occasionally he looks good, sometimes he looks bad. Tonight's the latter.

Frankly, turning over the puck isn't terrible if you're an offensive playmaker. When you are on the blue line however, being able to recover is crucial, and he has put himself too far out of position tonight.

How is barrie not even mentioned as one of your under rated d. Check his numbers man

Especially compared to some of the guys on that list:
Rundblad
Klingberg
Jordie Benn
Gardiner

I think he actaully had Kindel on his underrated list....ings have been trying to deal him for a mid round draft pick and the entire league has passed on him, truly underrated.

Well, all lists like this are futile. That's kind of the point. There's no real answer as no one dominates in a Bobby Orr type way. There are literally ten good choices for the Norris Trophy this year.

However, shooting percentage isn't really a cop out. To some degree, I hear what you're saying, as OV is always going to shoot higher than Muzzin. However, when a guy shoots under 2% or even under 5% for a long time, that's still bad luck, because the worst team shooting percentage over a full season in history is something like 7%.

And yeah, you could totally rank Subban higher than Gio based on Corsi, but the reason I don't is because Gio plays tougher minutes, has worse zone starts and a higher Dcorsi impact, while putting up roughly the same points and both playing in systems that aren't exactly designed to win. (I.E I think both MTL and CGY could use new coaches.)
- James_Tanner

Now it's the coaches fault. c'mon James, Hartley is probably the biggest reason CGY is fighting for a playoff spot right now. We'll keep him. Thank you very much.

Biggest flaw with this blog: only this season is taken into account, and it's not even finished. I think in order to be considered a Top 5 anything, consistency is a huge factor.

Doughty probably the best, letang not that good defensively
- DougGilmour_93

Letang is the top defenseman on a team that is 4th in GAA. He is very good defensively. Get some glasses old timer.

Well it looks like you got it all figured out, too bad your opinion doesn't count in the scoring...

Biggest flaw with this blog: only this season is taken into account, and it's not even finished. I think in order to be considered a Top 5 anything, consistency is a huge factor.
- Sandus

the awards are given out , one for THAT year ;hence only this YEAR that matters for scoring.

the awards are given out , one for THAT year ;hence only this YEAR that matters for scoring.
- Bradlee3

The blog title doesn't mention an award.

The blog title doesn't mention an award.
- prock

my bad , guess I need to use my open eye to read this 😜. please disregard previous posts.

You should not be blogging. You shouldn't. When you post things like this, as a writer, some less knowledgeable posters (and by that, I mean less knowledgeable than the average hockey fan, not less knowledgeable than you), may think it's true.
- prock

I will say Yandle is a stud defensively

Everyone and their mothers doubted Yandle in that regard but Yandle has been more impressive defensively than offensively so far. Maybe James is onto something?
- rangerdanger94

I think the Rangers might have the best defense in the NHL, the number 6 guy would be the number 1 on Edmonton.

And yeah, you could totally rank Subban higher than Gio based on Corsi, but the reason I don't is because Gio plays tougher minutes, has worse zone starts and a higher Dcorsi impact, while putting up roughly the same points and both playing in systems that aren't exactly designed to win. (I.E I think both MTL and CGY could use new coaches.)
- James_Tanner

What? Care to elaborate on how Hartley's system isn't designed to win? Not looking to get in an argument but it seems like an odd thing to throw out there.

The eye test absolutely has merit.

Tyler Myers has for the most part awful advanced numbers playing with the Sabres. 9 points in 11 games since being moved to a competent team. Not to mention all of the sudden he's a better possession player too.

I didn't need a single advanced stat to tell me he was very good on a very bad team. It's taken 11 games to verify my opinion

James Tanner
Arizona Coyotes

"Based on what? I just gave you some pretty objective information that suggest he's (Yandle) an elite #1 and in the top 5 at the worst."

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Opinions change.
- Reeder17

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James Tanner
Arizona Coyotes

"If I recall correctly, that was a from a statistical analysis of the past five years. Of which Yandle absolutely dominates from a stats perspective. "

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I told you....opinions change.

I think the Rangers might have the best defense in the NHL, the number 6 guy would be the number 1 on Edmonton.
- Dangles13

I like that Petry guy we got. He's a stud in Montreal

Thanks!

I like that Petry guy we got. He's a stud in Montreal

Thanks!
- l3ig_l2ecl

I don't think stud is the right word but I'll let MacT know you're happy.

So I have a question.

Maybe I didn't understand this correctly but, Tanner said it makes you a better D if you have more starts in your own zone than in the offensive zone.

How is that so?

I looked up stats to try to figure how this could be a point. By the way, I'm not trying to blast any D, they are all great, but will talk about Gio and Suter.

I then found out that 61% of Giordono's shifts start with a faceoff. 39% of those end up being in the defensive end.

For Suter, 73% of his shifts start with a Faceoff. 27% of those start in the defensive end.

To me, what this shows is Giordono isn't as capable of getting the puck out of his end and the result of the play ends with a goalie making the save. Suter gets the puck moving and the play ends in the other end.

What am I missing here?

(Edit: I'll retract my stats since I looks at total shifts, but only the faceoffs on 5v5 situations...)

put Karlsson on a team with some offensive forwards (Pens, Caps, Hawks) and watch him put up 90 pts. Best in the league.