Whatever someones willing to pay him.
- LeftCoaster

Hoping Dorsett gets under Kesler's skin tonight.

Hoping Dorsett gets under Kesler's skin tonight.
- Marwood

Me too - I hope someone uses their hockey stick as a Q tip and checks out his ears

Hoping Dorsett gets under Kesler's skin tonight.
- Marwood

Perry is still the guy I want to see Dorsett go after but both would be great.

Me too - I hope someone uses their hockey stick as a Q tip and checks out his ears
- LeftCoaster

That's a penalty, use that stick on his prostate.

The two biggest needs that Canucks have needed for years is Grit and Secondary Scoring.


Tanev brings neither of those

Matthias is second highest goal scorer on the team.

They are both worth between 3-3.5
- VANTEL

Yikes.... So a bottom six fwd is worth the same as a top 3 defender to you?

Matthias may score 20 this year but I doubt he ever does again, your arguments don't make any sense day to day.

Higgins is a bum because he scored 8 this year even though he scored 17 last year and was the 2nd leading goal scorer but Matthias who might hit 20 for the first time in his career and is shooting at nearly a 50% higher rate than his average is worth more money.

I get that you want more physical/offensive dmen but not resigning Tanev is robbing peter to pay paul or whatever the hell that book says.
- belcherbd

Let me name other UFAs that did fairly well for their cup of coffee time here in Vancouver. Torres , Santorelli , Ehrhoff are a couple that come to mind where the fans here weekly whine about bringing them back. Why did they leave? Because we didn't want to pay them their value.

You don't know that Matthias won't score again next year. He produced for us at the end of last year. What do you have to base your facts on.

He did what was asked of him , you pay him his worth. If he doesn't hot 20 next year then it is a short contract anyways

Matthias may score 20 this year but I doubt he ever does again, your arguments don't make any sense day to day.

Higgins is a bum because he scored 8 this year even though he scored 17 last year and was the 2nd leading goal scorer but Matthias who might hit 20 for the first time in his career and is shooting at nearly a 50% higher rate than his average is worth more money.

I get that you want more physical/offensive dmen but not resigning Tanev is robbing peter to pay paul or whatever the hell that book says.
- belcherbd

All of this

I just looked up Hamhuis stats and it seems we're onto something there - he had more than 100 minutes in penalties (140 one year!) while playing with Prince George. His penalty minutes seemed to have receded since he was with Nashville (he had close to 70 minutes in almost every season with the club). So yes, it seems like he does have that 'truculence' factor, but doesn't use it as much as he used to (I think his skating and all around game has improved so much that he doesn't need to take penalties to make up for any errors or mistakes)
- Zogg

He did trunculate all over Nugent Hopkins face one night. That was something.

Yikes.... So a bottom six fwd is worth the same as a top 3 defender to you?
- bezz44

We have a sh1t D here. I could play top 3 D . Being the best apple in a barrel of rotten apples doesn't make you a best apple anywhere else.

Look at his fricken numbers. 64 games max played. 25 hits max ever in one year. 17 PTs max ever in one year.

Those are not good numbers

Lol are you his agent

- SMP8719

Are you Kevin Lowe or Craig Mactavish. Because either one of them care about stopping the other team from scoring.

If Tanev is not worth 4, Matthias is not worth more than 2
- bezz44

This is what I have been saying

We have a sh1t D here. I could play top 3 D . Being the best apple in a barrel of rotten apples doesn't make you a best apple anywhere else.

Look at his fricken numbers. 64 games max played. 25 hits max ever in one year. 17 PTs max ever in one year.

Gather are not good numbers
- VANTEL

Our defense is the only decent part of our team. Hamhuis, Tanev and Edler while lacking a #1 is still a very good top 3

We have a sh1t D here. I could play top 3 D . Being the best apple in a barrel of rotten apples doesn't make you a best apple anywhere else.

Look at his fricken numbers. 64 games max played. 25 hits max ever in one year. 17 PTs max ever in one year.

Gather are not good numbers
- VANTEL

Your "20 goal scorer" has never scored 20 goals, and has never cracked 30 points. Tell me whose numbers are not good again
I don't want to sign Tanev because of his hits or his points, those are not his strengths. The things he does well, he does very well.
You want to sign Matthias to have a team with more hits and more goals. He barely hits, and he has not proven he is a goal scorer...

Let me name other UFAs that did fairly well for their cup of coffee time here in Vancouver. Torres , Santorelli , Ehrhoff are a couple that come to mind where the fans here weekly whine about bringing them back. Why did they leave? Because we didn't want to pay them their value.

You don't know that Matthias won't score again next year. He produced for us at the end of last year. What do you have to base your facts on.

He did what was asked of him , you pay him his worth. If he doesn't hot 20 next year then it is a short contract anyways
- VANTEL

So we pay Mathias to score goals even though he doesn't have a history of it. But we don't pay tanev to stop goals because he isn't flashy at it even though he has a history of it? Jesus Christ, Is this Dave Nonis syndrome? Think about what your saying

That's a penalty, use that stick on his prostate.
- A_SteamingLombardi

It'd be worth the two minutes - how's the PK been lately?

So we pay Mathias to score goals even though he doesn't have a history of it. But we don't pay tanev to stop goals because he isn't flashy at it even though he has a history of it? Jesus Christ, Is this Dave Nonis syndrome? Think about what your saying
- Bieksa#3

Honestly, paying Matthias 3.5mil=Clarkson @ 5mil. At least he put up 30 goals

Your "20 goal scorer" has never scored 20 goals, and has never cracked 30 points. Tell me whose numbers are not good again
I don't want to sign Tanev because of his hits or his points, those are not his strengths. The things he does well, he does very well.
You want to sign Matthias to have a team with more hits and more goals. He barely hits, and he has not proven he is a goal scorer...
- bezz44

Higgins has more pts then Mathias , is a far supiorior defense player, is a leader as per our gm and makes 2.5 mill and Vantel wants him gone so he can have Mathias at 3.5
Did I cover everything?

Your "20 goal scorer" has never scored 20 goals, and has never cracked 30 points. Tell me whose numbers are not good again
I don't want to sign Tanev because of his hits or his points, those are not his strengths. The things he does well, he does very well.
You want to sign Matthias to have a team with more hits and more goals. He barely hits, and he has not proven he is a goal scorer...
- bezz44

At least he can say he did it once something Tanev has yet to do

Honestly, paying Matthias 3.5mil=Clarkson @ 5mil. At least he put up 30 goals
- bezz44

Leino
Laich

Higgins has more pts then Mathias , is a far supiorior defense player, is a leader as per our gm and makes 2.5 mill and Vantel wants him gone so he can have Mathias at 3.5
Did I cover everything?
- Bieksa#3

That covers it

Leino
Laich


- Bieksa#3

Fine let him walk , bring back Higgins next year and his 10 goals , just don't complain next year when we suck again with crappy players.

That covers it
- VANTEL

I get you like Mathias but your willing to pay him for what he might be able to do but won't pay Tanev for what he already does.
Mathias is a 3rd line player on any team save buffalo and phx

Tanev is top 4 on every single team.

I can't wait for the day when we, once again, have a lot of our own picks in the line-up...they seem to get more rope than the rest. That and I'm just so ready for change...by the time the Sedins are ready to walk the plank we should be set-up nicely if I've got a good read on Benning.

At least he can say he did it once something Tanev has yet to do
- VANTEL

He hasn't done it once though and how in god's name is it relevant that Tanev has never scored 20 goals I suppose Sidney Crosby doesn't deserve what he makes because he has 0 NHL shutouts