No they really are stats go look them up
- VANTEL

How do you rank the following stats when you evaluate a d-man?

1. Level of competition/matchups they get
2. Points
3. Hits
4. Blocks
5. Fights
6. Grabbing a guy after a whistle
7. Goals against rate/ratio
8. Scoring chance differential when on the ice

I'm curious. Others are free to answer as well. Rank them all though.

No Corsi here.

I'll keep the bet on Ehlers beating MDC next year
- VANTEL

That's fine. So you do think boychuck is getting a lot more then 5m

That's fine. So you do think boychuck is getting a lot more then 5m
- Bieksa#3

I think he is getting 5

All you've done is name call. What is it that he does that makes him better. He doesn't get pts.
- Bieksa#3

Look this should make you understand.

The last three years before this one he has put up over 0.4 ppg on a Ken Hitchcock team. Shoots way more, can carry the puck up the ice and enter the zone and is larger and more physical. He is also way way more durable.

As far as being a possession driver... I dunno look at the advanced stats. but that one stat alone is all they might have in common which makes for a horrible comparison... and give your head a shake is not an insult unless you are a little too sensitive. I will lay off with the dumb comments just don't get your perspective.

I think he is getting 5
- VANTEL

So take my bet

Those aren't really stats, come on man. If I looked at every Canuck d-mans stats, including hits, age shot blocks, points, competition they face, and goals against when on the ice then yes I would say make sure you keep the guy with Tanev's numbers above the rest of them.
- Nucker101

I agree. And no one has mentioned that the guy is a shot-blocking machine, which is HUGE for a defenseman, as it cuts down quality scoring chances. I think he's in the top 15 for that (131 so far). That's a huge number and an asset to any team. I feel this stat is more important than hits or offensive numbers for a d-man, as it takes away another team's opportunities in the defensive zone.

P.S. he is actually Top 10 if you consider blocked shots per game (he's played at least 10 games less than the top shot blockers)

Look this should make you understand.

The last three years before this one he has put up over 0.4 ppg on a Ken Hitchcock team. Shoots way more, can carry the puck up the ice and enter the zone and is larger and more physical. He is also way way more durable.

As far as being a possession driver... I dunno look at the advanced stats. but that one stat alone is all they might have in common which makes for a horrible comparison... and give your head a shake is not an insult unless you are a little too sensitive. I will lay off with the dumb comments just don't get your perspective.
- SMP8719

So .4 on a far supiorior team and Petrangelo is your partner. He makes 5.5 and you won't give Tanev 4. Do you understand what your arguing? Or are you trolling?
Boumeester was -33 in his last season and a half in cgy. Which is a comparable to Tanev team the last 2 yrs

How do you rank the following stats when you evaluate a d-man?

1. Level of competition/matchups they get
3. Points
4. Hits
5. Blocks
7. Fights
8. Grabbing a guy after a whistle
6. Goals against rate/ratio - assuming this is plus/minus?
2. Scoring chance differential when on the ice

I'm curious. Others are free to answer as well. Rank them all though.

No Corsi here.
- Nucker101

How do you rank the following stats when you evaluate a d-man?

1. Level of competition/matchups they get
2. Points
3. Hits
4. Blocks
5. Fights
6. Grabbing a guy after a whistle
7. Goals against rate/ratio
8. Scoring chance differential when on the ice

I'm curious. Others are free to answer as well. Rank them all though.

No Corsi here.
- Nucker101

8=1
7=2
1=3
2=4
3&4 = 5&6 both useful yet misleading
5=7
6=8

How do you rank the following stats when you evaluate a d-man?

1. Level of competition/matchups they get
2. Points
3. Hits
4. Blocks
5. Fights
6. Grabbing a guy after a whistle
7. Goals against rate/ratio
8. Scoring chance differential when on the ice

I'm curious. Others are free to answer as well. Rank them all though.

No Corsi here.
- Nucker101

Question not directed at me but:
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4
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6
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How do you rank the following stats when you evaluate a d-man?

1. Level of competition/matchups they get
2. Points
3. Hits
4. Blocks
5. Fights
6. Grabbing a guy after a whistle
7. Goals against rate/ratio
8. Scoring chance differential when on the ice

I'm curious. Others are free to answer as well. Rank them all though.

No Corsi here.
- Nucker101

I know where you are going with this. Biega came in and faced some pretty tough teams and did very well also. Same as any other call up and can play that role.

I would spend my money on D to a point producer first . Less for a big hitter or fighter. And mid range to the guys that play like Hamhuis Tanev

How do you rank the following stats when you evaluate a d-man?

1. Level of competition/matchups they get
2. Points
3. Hits
4. Blocks
5. Fights
6. Grabbing a guy after a whistle
7. Goals against rate/ratio
8. Scoring chance differential when on the ice

I'm curious. Others are free to answer as well. Rank them all though.

No Corsi here.
- Nucker101

Really depends on the defenceman, the list would be different for Willie Mitchell and Drew Doughty. As you know.

Jason Botchford @botchford .
Will old 17 get booed again tonight? And how many people will there be wearing "shorts and flip flops. Nice"

I know where you are going with this. Biega came in and faced some pretty tough teams and did very well also. Same as any other call up and can play that role.

I would spend my money on D to a point producer first . Less for a big hitter or fighter. And mid range to the guys that play like Hamhuis Tanev
- VANTEL

Didn't play again the top units of which tanev does.

- hillbillydeluxe

Thank you sir. While I do agree Tim Burtons best days are far behind him, His stuff from the 80's was exceptional.

So .4 on a far supiorior team and Petrangelo is your partner. He makes 5.5 and you won't give Tanev 4. Do you understand what your arguing? Or are you trolling?
- Bieksa#3

Those aren't the best numbers of JB's career.... those are the last few on a DEFENSIVE TEAM... He put up way better numbers when he played on a bad team in Florida. JB was a Team Canada Dman... you can't compare a guy having a horrible season that makes more and is older, to an RFA with a max of 64 games played in a season on pace for 3 goals with top line minutes. Anyways you keep comparing pinapples to Oranges and I will go back to more interesting conversations.

Didn't play again the top units of which tanev does.
- Bieksa#3

He did at times. He also had tons of hits, didn't screw up. That type of safe D is not that hard to play . That is why almost every team has that type of player , and very few have a Vantenen or Doughty

So take what we can get from an offer sheet if it's reasonable and try and sign boychuk or mcquaid?
- manvanfan

Sign and trade?

Thank you sir. While I do agree Tim Burtons best days are far behind him, His stuff from the 80's was exceptional.
- vancity787

Burton is a genius. That is all.

Those aren't the best numbers of JB's career.... those are the last few on a DEFENSIVE TEAM... He put up way better numbers when he played on a bad team in Florida. JB was a Team Canada Dman... you can't compare a guy having a horrible season that makes more and is older, to an RFA with a max of 64 games played in a season on pace for 3 goals with top line minutes. Anyways you keep comparing pinapples to Oranges and I will go back to more interesting conversations.
- SMP8719

Burton is a genius. That is all.
- Zogg

Him and Danny Elfmans musical touch is 100% genius.

Burton is a genius. That is all.
- Zogg

Can't stand him.

Can't stand him.
- Bieksa#3

Are you judging him by his 2000's stuff or have you watched his older films?

Thank you sir. While I do agree Tim Burtons best days are far behind him, His stuff from the 80's was exceptional.
- vancity787

Love quirky stuff. Made my kid watch Edward Scissorhands and he enjoyed it.

The quirkier the better.

like, (off the top of my head)

Moonrise Kingdom

Eagle vs Shark

Big Lebowski

Run Ronnie Run

Strangers With Candy

Can't stand him.
- Bieksa#3

BUT WHAT'S HIS VALUE???????